Evaluate Integral Using Stokes Theorem

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Using Stokes theorem evaluate



$$int_Gamma(z-y),dx-(x+z),dy-(x+y),dz$$



where $Gamma$ is the intersection of $x^2+y^2+z^2=4$ with the plane $z=y$ with anticlockwise orientation when looking on $z$ from the positive side



If we take $nablatimes F=(0,2,0)$ but how can we find $hatn$







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Using Stokes theorem evaluate



$$int_Gamma(z-y),dx-(x+z),dy-(x+y),dz$$



where $Gamma$ is the intersection of $x^2+y^2+z^2=4$ with the plane $z=y$ with anticlockwise orientation when looking on $z$ from the positive side



If we take $nablatimes F=(0,2,0)$ but how can we find $hatn$







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Using Stokes theorem evaluate



$$int_Gamma(z-y),dx-(x+z),dy-(x+y),dz$$



where $Gamma$ is the intersection of $x^2+y^2+z^2=4$ with the plane $z=y$ with anticlockwise orientation when looking on $z$ from the positive side



If we take $nablatimes F=(0,2,0)$ but how can we find $hatn$







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Using Stokes theorem evaluate



$$int_Gamma(z-y),dx-(x+z),dy-(x+y),dz$$



where $Gamma$ is the intersection of $x^2+y^2+z^2=4$ with the plane $z=y$ with anticlockwise orientation when looking on $z$ from the positive side



If we take $nablatimes F=(0,2,0)$ but how can we find $hatn$









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  • Are you sure the curl is 0?
    – Davey
    Aug 6 at 18:06










  • @Davey correct, edited
    – newhere
    Aug 6 at 18:18
















  • Are you sure the curl is 0?
    – Davey
    Aug 6 at 18:06










  • @Davey correct, edited
    – newhere
    Aug 6 at 18:18















Are you sure the curl is 0?
– Davey
Aug 6 at 18:06




Are you sure the curl is 0?
– Davey
Aug 6 at 18:06












@Davey correct, edited
– newhere
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@Davey correct, edited
– newhere
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Since $Gamma$ is a circle in a plane, we can apply Stokes' Theorem to the disk $D$ that it encloses to get that $int_Gamma F cdot ds = int_D$ curl $F cdot dA$. At each point of $D$, the normal to the disk is the same as the normal to the plane. In general, a normal to a plane is a vector $v$ such that the equation of the plane can be written in the form $(x - x_0, y - y_0, z - z_0) cdot v = 0$, where $(x_0, y_0, z_o)$ is any fixed point on the plane. In this case, we can take $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$ to be the origin. So you just need to find a unit vector $v$ with this property, pointing in whichever direction agrees with the orientation of $Gamma$.






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    $vec n$ is normal to plane. So, $ vec n = <0,1,-1>/sqrt 2 \ iint Curl (vec F). vec n dS = iint <0,2,0> cdot (<0,1,-1>/sqrt 2) dS \ = iint
    sqrt 2 dS = sqrt 2 (Area space of space circle) = sqrt 2 pi(2^2) \ = 4 sqrt 2pi$






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      Since $Gamma$ is a circle in a plane, we can apply Stokes' Theorem to the disk $D$ that it encloses to get that $int_Gamma F cdot ds = int_D$ curl $F cdot dA$. At each point of $D$, the normal to the disk is the same as the normal to the plane. In general, a normal to a plane is a vector $v$ such that the equation of the plane can be written in the form $(x - x_0, y - y_0, z - z_0) cdot v = 0$, where $(x_0, y_0, z_o)$ is any fixed point on the plane. In this case, we can take $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$ to be the origin. So you just need to find a unit vector $v$ with this property, pointing in whichever direction agrees with the orientation of $Gamma$.






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        Since $Gamma$ is a circle in a plane, we can apply Stokes' Theorem to the disk $D$ that it encloses to get that $int_Gamma F cdot ds = int_D$ curl $F cdot dA$. At each point of $D$, the normal to the disk is the same as the normal to the plane. In general, a normal to a plane is a vector $v$ such that the equation of the plane can be written in the form $(x - x_0, y - y_0, z - z_0) cdot v = 0$, where $(x_0, y_0, z_o)$ is any fixed point on the plane. In this case, we can take $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$ to be the origin. So you just need to find a unit vector $v$ with this property, pointing in whichever direction agrees with the orientation of $Gamma$.






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          Since $Gamma$ is a circle in a plane, we can apply Stokes' Theorem to the disk $D$ that it encloses to get that $int_Gamma F cdot ds = int_D$ curl $F cdot dA$. At each point of $D$, the normal to the disk is the same as the normal to the plane. In general, a normal to a plane is a vector $v$ such that the equation of the plane can be written in the form $(x - x_0, y - y_0, z - z_0) cdot v = 0$, where $(x_0, y_0, z_o)$ is any fixed point on the plane. In this case, we can take $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$ to be the origin. So you just need to find a unit vector $v$ with this property, pointing in whichever direction agrees with the orientation of $Gamma$.






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          Since $Gamma$ is a circle in a plane, we can apply Stokes' Theorem to the disk $D$ that it encloses to get that $int_Gamma F cdot ds = int_D$ curl $F cdot dA$. At each point of $D$, the normal to the disk is the same as the normal to the plane. In general, a normal to a plane is a vector $v$ such that the equation of the plane can be written in the form $(x - x_0, y - y_0, z - z_0) cdot v = 0$, where $(x_0, y_0, z_o)$ is any fixed point on the plane. In this case, we can take $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$ to be the origin. So you just need to find a unit vector $v$ with this property, pointing in whichever direction agrees with the orientation of $Gamma$.







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              $vec n$ is normal to plane. So, $ vec n = <0,1,-1>/sqrt 2 \ iint Curl (vec F). vec n dS = iint <0,2,0> cdot (<0,1,-1>/sqrt 2) dS \ = iint
              sqrt 2 dS = sqrt 2 (Area space of space circle) = sqrt 2 pi(2^2) \ = 4 sqrt 2pi$






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                $vec n$ is normal to plane. So, $ vec n = <0,1,-1>/sqrt 2 \ iint Curl (vec F). vec n dS = iint <0,2,0> cdot (<0,1,-1>/sqrt 2) dS \ = iint
                sqrt 2 dS = sqrt 2 (Area space of space circle) = sqrt 2 pi(2^2) \ = 4 sqrt 2pi$






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                  $vec n$ is normal to plane. So, $ vec n = <0,1,-1>/sqrt 2 \ iint Curl (vec F). vec n dS = iint <0,2,0> cdot (<0,1,-1>/sqrt 2) dS \ = iint
                  sqrt 2 dS = sqrt 2 (Area space of space circle) = sqrt 2 pi(2^2) \ = 4 sqrt 2pi$






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                  $vec n$ is normal to plane. So, $ vec n = <0,1,-1>/sqrt 2 \ iint Curl (vec F). vec n dS = iint <0,2,0> cdot (<0,1,-1>/sqrt 2) dS \ = iint
                  sqrt 2 dS = sqrt 2 (Area space of space circle) = sqrt 2 pi(2^2) \ = 4 sqrt 2pi$







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