Probability and Combinatorial Group Theory.

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If this is too broad or is otherwise a poor question, I apologise.



I learned recently that the probability that two integers generate the additive group of integers is $frac6pi^2$.




What other results are there like this?




I'm looking for any results of probability applied to group theory, preferably combinatorial group theory, in manner such as the one above.







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    The buzzwords you want are “Probabalistic” and “Asymptotoc” group theory.
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  • Related (PDF): in it, it is claim that the probability that any two elements of $S_n$ generate $S_n$ approaches $1$ as $ntoinfty$.
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  • Thank you, @ml0105; Google comes up with plenty of results using "probabilistic group theory" alone. I swear, I did some searching before posting. It just never occurred to me to use those words.
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If this is too broad or is otherwise a poor question, I apologise.



I learned recently that the probability that two integers generate the additive group of integers is $frac6pi^2$.




What other results are there like this?




I'm looking for any results of probability applied to group theory, preferably combinatorial group theory, in manner such as the one above.







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This question has an open bounty worth +100
reputation from Yanior Weg ending ending at 2018-08-12 13:20:56Z">in 7 days.


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  • Related.
    – Shaun
    Jan 9 at 23:57






  • 1




    The buzzwords you want are “Probabalistic” and “Asymptotoc” group theory.
    – ml0105
    Jan 10 at 0:15










  • Related (PDF): in it, it is claim that the probability that any two elements of $S_n$ generate $S_n$ approaches $1$ as $ntoinfty$.
    – Shaun
    Jan 10 at 0:55











  • Thank you, @ml0105; Google comes up with plenty of results using "probabilistic group theory" alone. I swear, I did some searching before posting. It just never occurred to me to use those words.
    – Shaun
    Jan 10 at 1:00






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    Jun 26 at 13:37












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If this is too broad or is otherwise a poor question, I apologise.



I learned recently that the probability that two integers generate the additive group of integers is $frac6pi^2$.




What other results are there like this?




I'm looking for any results of probability applied to group theory, preferably combinatorial group theory, in manner such as the one above.







share|cite|improve this question











If this is too broad or is otherwise a poor question, I apologise.



I learned recently that the probability that two integers generate the additive group of integers is $frac6pi^2$.




What other results are there like this?




I'm looking for any results of probability applied to group theory, preferably combinatorial group theory, in manner such as the one above.









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  • Related.
    – Shaun
    Jan 9 at 23:57






  • 1




    The buzzwords you want are “Probabalistic” and “Asymptotoc” group theory.
    – ml0105
    Jan 10 at 0:15










  • Related (PDF): in it, it is claim that the probability that any two elements of $S_n$ generate $S_n$ approaches $1$ as $ntoinfty$.
    – Shaun
    Jan 10 at 0:55











  • Thank you, @ml0105; Google comes up with plenty of results using "probabilistic group theory" alone. I swear, I did some searching before posting. It just never occurred to me to use those words.
    – Shaun
    Jan 10 at 1:00






  • 1




    Related.
    – Shaun
    Jun 26 at 13:37
















  • Related.
    – Shaun
    Jan 9 at 23:57






  • 1




    The buzzwords you want are “Probabalistic” and “Asymptotoc” group theory.
    – ml0105
    Jan 10 at 0:15










  • Related (PDF): in it, it is claim that the probability that any two elements of $S_n$ generate $S_n$ approaches $1$ as $ntoinfty$.
    – Shaun
    Jan 10 at 0:55











  • Thank you, @ml0105; Google comes up with plenty of results using "probabilistic group theory" alone. I swear, I did some searching before posting. It just never occurred to me to use those words.
    – Shaun
    Jan 10 at 1:00






  • 1




    Related.
    – Shaun
    Jun 26 at 13:37















Related.
– Shaun
Jan 9 at 23:57




Related.
– Shaun
Jan 9 at 23:57




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The buzzwords you want are “Probabalistic” and “Asymptotoc” group theory.
– ml0105
Jan 10 at 0:15




The buzzwords you want are “Probabalistic” and “Asymptotoc” group theory.
– ml0105
Jan 10 at 0:15












Related (PDF): in it, it is claim that the probability that any two elements of $S_n$ generate $S_n$ approaches $1$ as $ntoinfty$.
– Shaun
Jan 10 at 0:55





Related (PDF): in it, it is claim that the probability that any two elements of $S_n$ generate $S_n$ approaches $1$ as $ntoinfty$.
– Shaun
Jan 10 at 0:55













Thank you, @ml0105; Google comes up with plenty of results using "probabilistic group theory" alone. I swear, I did some searching before posting. It just never occurred to me to use those words.
– Shaun
Jan 10 at 1:00




Thank you, @ml0105; Google comes up with plenty of results using "probabilistic group theory" alone. I swear, I did some searching before posting. It just never occurred to me to use those words.
– Shaun
Jan 10 at 1:00




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Here are quite similar facts:



The probability, that a random pair of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n - frac1n^2 - frac4n^3 - frac23n^4 - frac172n^5 - frac1542n^6 - O(frac1n^7)$.



The probability, that a random triple of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n^2 - frac3n^4 - frac6n^5 - O(frac1n^6)$.



The probability, that a random element generate $mathbbZ_n$ is $fracphi(n)n$, where $phi$ is Euler's totient function.



The probability, that $n$ random elements generates $mathbbZ^n-1$ is $prod_j=2^n zeta(j)^-1.$, where $zeta$ is Riemann zeta function.



The probability, that $m$ random elements generate $mathbbZ_p^n$, where $p$ is prime, is $1 - frac1p^m$.






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  • Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
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For a finite group you can compute the probability that any two random elements will commute by looking at certain conjugacy classes.






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    That sounds interesting... Would you mind to give us a bit more detailed information about this fact?
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Here are quite similar facts:



The probability, that a random pair of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n - frac1n^2 - frac4n^3 - frac23n^4 - frac172n^5 - frac1542n^6 - O(frac1n^7)$.



The probability, that a random triple of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n^2 - frac3n^4 - frac6n^5 - O(frac1n^6)$.



The probability, that a random element generate $mathbbZ_n$ is $fracphi(n)n$, where $phi$ is Euler's totient function.



The probability, that $n$ random elements generates $mathbbZ^n-1$ is $prod_j=2^n zeta(j)^-1.$, where $zeta$ is Riemann zeta function.



The probability, that $m$ random elements generate $mathbbZ_p^n$, where $p$ is prime, is $1 - frac1p^m$.






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  • Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
    – Orat
    1 hour ago














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Here are quite similar facts:



The probability, that a random pair of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n - frac1n^2 - frac4n^3 - frac23n^4 - frac172n^5 - frac1542n^6 - O(frac1n^7)$.



The probability, that a random triple of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n^2 - frac3n^4 - frac6n^5 - O(frac1n^6)$.



The probability, that a random element generate $mathbbZ_n$ is $fracphi(n)n$, where $phi$ is Euler's totient function.



The probability, that $n$ random elements generates $mathbbZ^n-1$ is $prod_j=2^n zeta(j)^-1.$, where $zeta$ is Riemann zeta function.



The probability, that $m$ random elements generate $mathbbZ_p^n$, where $p$ is prime, is $1 - frac1p^m$.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
    – Orat
    1 hour ago












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Here are quite similar facts:



The probability, that a random pair of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n - frac1n^2 - frac4n^3 - frac23n^4 - frac172n^5 - frac1542n^6 - O(frac1n^7)$.



The probability, that a random triple of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n^2 - frac3n^4 - frac6n^5 - O(frac1n^6)$.



The probability, that a random element generate $mathbbZ_n$ is $fracphi(n)n$, where $phi$ is Euler's totient function.



The probability, that $n$ random elements generates $mathbbZ^n-1$ is $prod_j=2^n zeta(j)^-1.$, where $zeta$ is Riemann zeta function.



The probability, that $m$ random elements generate $mathbbZ_p^n$, where $p$ is prime, is $1 - frac1p^m$.






share|cite|improve this answer















Here are quite similar facts:



The probability, that a random pair of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n - frac1n^2 - frac4n^3 - frac23n^4 - frac172n^5 - frac1542n^6 - O(frac1n^7)$.



The probability, that a random triple of elements generates $S_n$ is $1 - frac1n^2 - frac3n^4 - frac6n^5 - O(frac1n^6)$.



The probability, that a random element generate $mathbbZ_n$ is $fracphi(n)n$, where $phi$ is Euler's totient function.



The probability, that $n$ random elements generates $mathbbZ^n-1$ is $prod_j=2^n zeta(j)^-1.$, where $zeta$ is Riemann zeta function.



The probability, that $m$ random elements generate $mathbbZ_p^n$, where $p$ is prime, is $1 - frac1p^m$.







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  • Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
    – Orat
    1 hour ago
















  • Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
    – Orat
    1 hour ago















Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
– Orat
1 hour ago




Another one: Dixon's conjecture—the probability, that two random elements generate a finite simple group $G$ tends to $1$ as $lvert G rvert to infty$.
– Orat
1 hour ago










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For a finite group you can compute the probability that any two random elements will commute by looking at certain conjugacy classes.






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    That sounds interesting... Would you mind to give us a bit more detailed information about this fact?
    – Yanior Weg
    4 hours ago














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For a finite group you can compute the probability that any two random elements will commute by looking at certain conjugacy classes.






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    That sounds interesting... Would you mind to give us a bit more detailed information about this fact?
    – Yanior Weg
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For a finite group you can compute the probability that any two random elements will commute by looking at certain conjugacy classes.






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For a finite group you can compute the probability that any two random elements will commute by looking at certain conjugacy classes.







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