Where Is the Simplest Proof of Main Claim 1.3 on Page 46 of Shelah's “Cardinal Arithmetic”?

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Where is the simplest proof of Main Claim 1.3 on page 46 of Shelah's book "Cardinal Arithmetic"? It apparently is also Theorem VI.5.8 of Eklof and Mekler's book, "Almost Free Modules:Set-theoretic Methods," but it is not proven there.



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Where can I find a proof of Shelah mentioned in the book "Almost Free Modules" as Theorem VI.5.8?







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  • We can't know what "simplest" means from your perspective.
    – amWhy
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  • There might be a survey article that gives a complete proof but doesn't require having to wade through the material Shelah's proof depends upon. To be honest, "any other proof" might suit me.
    – Tri
    3 hours ago










  • It has been some time that read it and I did not look very carefully before citing the references below but I have delayed enough answering it. If something does not look correct, please just ask.
    – Gabriel Fernandes
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Where is the simplest proof of Main Claim 1.3 on page 46 of Shelah's book "Cardinal Arithmetic"? It apparently is also Theorem VI.5.8 of Eklof and Mekler's book, "Almost Free Modules:Set-theoretic Methods," but it is not proven there.



For the statement, see



Where can I find a proof of Shelah mentioned in the book "Almost Free Modules" as Theorem VI.5.8?







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  • We can't know what "simplest" means from your perspective.
    – amWhy
    3 hours ago










  • There might be a survey article that gives a complete proof but doesn't require having to wade through the material Shelah's proof depends upon. To be honest, "any other proof" might suit me.
    – Tri
    3 hours ago










  • It has been some time that read it and I did not look very carefully before citing the references below but I have delayed enough answering it. If something does not look correct, please just ask.
    – Gabriel Fernandes
    42 mins ago












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Where is the simplest proof of Main Claim 1.3 on page 46 of Shelah's book "Cardinal Arithmetic"? It apparently is also Theorem VI.5.8 of Eklof and Mekler's book, "Almost Free Modules:Set-theoretic Methods," but it is not proven there.



For the statement, see



Where can I find a proof of Shelah mentioned in the book "Almost Free Modules" as Theorem VI.5.8?







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Where is the simplest proof of Main Claim 1.3 on page 46 of Shelah's book "Cardinal Arithmetic"? It apparently is also Theorem VI.5.8 of Eklof and Mekler's book, "Almost Free Modules:Set-theoretic Methods," but it is not proven there.



For the statement, see



Where can I find a proof of Shelah mentioned in the book "Almost Free Modules" as Theorem VI.5.8?









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  • We can't know what "simplest" means from your perspective.
    – amWhy
    3 hours ago










  • There might be a survey article that gives a complete proof but doesn't require having to wade through the material Shelah's proof depends upon. To be honest, "any other proof" might suit me.
    – Tri
    3 hours ago










  • It has been some time that read it and I did not look very carefully before citing the references below but I have delayed enough answering it. If something does not look correct, please just ask.
    – Gabriel Fernandes
    42 mins ago
















  • We can't know what "simplest" means from your perspective.
    – amWhy
    3 hours ago










  • There might be a survey article that gives a complete proof but doesn't require having to wade through the material Shelah's proof depends upon. To be honest, "any other proof" might suit me.
    – Tri
    3 hours ago










  • It has been some time that read it and I did not look very carefully before citing the references below but I have delayed enough answering it. If something does not look correct, please just ask.
    – Gabriel Fernandes
    42 mins ago















We can't know what "simplest" means from your perspective.
– amWhy
3 hours ago




We can't know what "simplest" means from your perspective.
– amWhy
3 hours ago












There might be a survey article that gives a complete proof but doesn't require having to wade through the material Shelah's proof depends upon. To be honest, "any other proof" might suit me.
– Tri
3 hours ago




There might be a survey article that gives a complete proof but doesn't require having to wade through the material Shelah's proof depends upon. To be honest, "any other proof" might suit me.
– Tri
3 hours ago












It has been some time that read it and I did not look very carefully before citing the references below but I have delayed enough answering it. If something does not look correct, please just ask.
– Gabriel Fernandes
42 mins ago




It has been some time that read it and I did not look very carefully before citing the references below but I have delayed enough answering it. If something does not look correct, please just ask.
– Gabriel Fernandes
42 mins ago










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You might want to take a look in [Shelah's pcf theory and its applications] (link below) by Burke and Magidor section 2.



There is another version of the 1.3 in Introduction to Cardinal Arithmetic by Holz, Michael, Steffens, Karsten, Weitz, E.; it is section 3.2 there.



I can not point now where exactly is 1.3 in the handbook chapter by Uri Abraham and Menachem Magidor, but I strongly recommend taking a look there .



If later you look for a proof of trichotomy theorem, (I did not read it but I believe it is simpler than ''Cardinal Arithmetic'') see the appendix in Exact upper bounds and their uses in set theory by Menachem Kojman (rmk: the handbook chapter develops enough so that trichotomy theorem is exercise 2.27)



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    You might want to take a look in [Shelah's pcf theory and its applications] (link below) by Burke and Magidor section 2.



    There is another version of the 1.3 in Introduction to Cardinal Arithmetic by Holz, Michael, Steffens, Karsten, Weitz, E.; it is section 3.2 there.



    I can not point now where exactly is 1.3 in the handbook chapter by Uri Abraham and Menachem Magidor, but I strongly recommend taking a look there .



    If later you look for a proof of trichotomy theorem, (I did not read it but I believe it is simpler than ''Cardinal Arithmetic'') see the appendix in Exact upper bounds and their uses in set theory by Menachem Kojman (rmk: the handbook chapter develops enough so that trichotomy theorem is exercise 2.27)



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      You might want to take a look in [Shelah's pcf theory and its applications] (link below) by Burke and Magidor section 2.



      There is another version of the 1.3 in Introduction to Cardinal Arithmetic by Holz, Michael, Steffens, Karsten, Weitz, E.; it is section 3.2 there.



      I can not point now where exactly is 1.3 in the handbook chapter by Uri Abraham and Menachem Magidor, but I strongly recommend taking a look there .



      If later you look for a proof of trichotomy theorem, (I did not read it but I believe it is simpler than ''Cardinal Arithmetic'') see the appendix in Exact upper bounds and their uses in set theory by Menachem Kojman (rmk: the handbook chapter develops enough so that trichotomy theorem is exercise 2.27)



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        You might want to take a look in [Shelah's pcf theory and its applications] (link below) by Burke and Magidor section 2.



        There is another version of the 1.3 in Introduction to Cardinal Arithmetic by Holz, Michael, Steffens, Karsten, Weitz, E.; it is section 3.2 there.



        I can not point now where exactly is 1.3 in the handbook chapter by Uri Abraham and Menachem Magidor, but I strongly recommend taking a look there .



        If later you look for a proof of trichotomy theorem, (I did not read it but I believe it is simpler than ''Cardinal Arithmetic'') see the appendix in Exact upper bounds and their uses in set theory by Menachem Kojman (rmk: the handbook chapter develops enough so that trichotomy theorem is exercise 2.27)



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        You might want to take a look in [Shelah's pcf theory and its applications] (link below) by Burke and Magidor section 2.



        There is another version of the 1.3 in Introduction to Cardinal Arithmetic by Holz, Michael, Steffens, Karsten, Weitz, E.; it is section 3.2 there.



        I can not point now where exactly is 1.3 in the handbook chapter by Uri Abraham and Menachem Magidor, but I strongly recommend taking a look there .



        If later you look for a proof of trichotomy theorem, (I did not read it but I believe it is simpler than ''Cardinal Arithmetic'') see the appendix in Exact upper bounds and their uses in set theory by Menachem Kojman (rmk: the handbook chapter develops enough so that trichotomy theorem is exercise 2.27)



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