Definition of limit: $forall n>N$ or $forall n geq N$?

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My question is about the definition of limit.




Definition: The number $a$ is said to be the limit of the sequence $x_n$ if $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N in mathbbN$ such that $forall n > N$, we have
$$|x_n - a| < epsilon.$$




This definition is in the book "The fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis - Fikhtengol'ts". But in "Principles of Mathematical Analysis - Walter Rudin", he uses the condition $n geq N$. Is there any difference in the definition of limit when we use the conditions $n>N$ and $n geq N$?







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    My question is about the definition of limit.




    Definition: The number $a$ is said to be the limit of the sequence $x_n$ if $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N in mathbbN$ such that $forall n > N$, we have
    $$|x_n - a| < epsilon.$$




    This definition is in the book "The fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis - Fikhtengol'ts". But in "Principles of Mathematical Analysis - Walter Rudin", he uses the condition $n geq N$. Is there any difference in the definition of limit when we use the conditions $n>N$ and $n geq N$?







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      My question is about the definition of limit.




      Definition: The number $a$ is said to be the limit of the sequence $x_n$ if $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N in mathbbN$ such that $forall n > N$, we have
      $$|x_n - a| < epsilon.$$




      This definition is in the book "The fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis - Fikhtengol'ts". But in "Principles of Mathematical Analysis - Walter Rudin", he uses the condition $n geq N$. Is there any difference in the definition of limit when we use the conditions $n>N$ and $n geq N$?







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      My question is about the definition of limit.




      Definition: The number $a$ is said to be the limit of the sequence $x_n$ if $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N in mathbbN$ such that $forall n > N$, we have
      $$|x_n - a| < epsilon.$$




      This definition is in the book "The fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis - Fikhtengol'ts". But in "Principles of Mathematical Analysis - Walter Rudin", he uses the condition $n geq N$. Is there any difference in the definition of limit when we use the conditions $n>N$ and $n geq N$?









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          No, since $n>Niff ngeqslant N+1$.






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            No. There are no differences ! Try a proof !






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              No, because both of them means the same: the inequality
              $|x_n-a|<epsilon$
              holds true for every natural number except finitely many.






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                No, since $n>Niff ngeqslant N+1$.






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                  No, since $n>Niff ngeqslant N+1$.






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                    No, since $n>Niff ngeqslant N+1$.






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                    No, since $n>Niff ngeqslant N+1$.







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                        No. There are no differences ! Try a proof !






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                                No, because both of them means the same: the inequality
                                $|x_n-a|<epsilon$
                                holds true for every natural number except finitely many.






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                                  No, because both of them means the same: the inequality
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                                  holds true for every natural number except finitely many.






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                                    No, because both of them means the same: the inequality
                                    $|x_n-a|<epsilon$
                                    holds true for every natural number except finitely many.






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                                    No, because both of them means the same: the inequality
                                    $|x_n-a|<epsilon$
                                    holds true for every natural number except finitely many.







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