Evaluating $frac x y $, given $frac1x^y+1 = y$

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
-1
down vote

favorite













$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$







share|cite|improve this question





















  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00















up vote
-1
down vote

favorite













$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$







share|cite|improve this question





















  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00













up vote
-1
down vote

favorite









up vote
-1
down vote

favorite












$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$







share|cite|improve this question














$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$









share|cite|improve this question












share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Jul 31 at 13:57









amWhy

189k25219431




189k25219431









asked Jul 31 at 13:49









Maxwell

276




276











  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00

















  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00
















Are these real numbers?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jul 31 at 13:52




Are these real numbers?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jul 31 at 13:52




2




2




What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
– Rushabh Mehta
Jul 31 at 13:52




What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
– Rushabh Mehta
Jul 31 at 13:52












$(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 13:55





$(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 13:55













@Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
– Maxwell
Jul 31 at 14:00




@Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
– Maxwell
Jul 31 at 14:00












In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 14:00





In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 14:00











1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes

















up vote
0
down vote













Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



Putting this all together:



$$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



In terms of a single variable, you have



$x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



So, that gives you:



$$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






share|cite|improve this answer























    Your Answer




    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
    );
    );
    , "mathjax-editing");

    StackExchange.ready(function()
    var channelOptions =
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "69"
    ;
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
    createEditor();
    );

    else
    createEditor();

    );

    function createEditor()
    StackExchange.prepareEditor(
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    convertImagesToLinks: true,
    noModals: false,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: 10,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    );



    );








     

    draft saved


    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function ()
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2868060%2fevaluating-frac-x-y-given-frac1xy1-y%23new-answer', 'question_page');

    );

    Post as a guest






























    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes








    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes








    up vote
    0
    down vote













    Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



    Putting this all together:



    $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



    In terms of a single variable, you have



    $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



    So, that gives you:



    $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






    share|cite|improve this answer



























      up vote
      0
      down vote













      Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



      Putting this all together:



      $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



      In terms of a single variable, you have



      $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



      So, that gives you:



      $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






      share|cite|improve this answer

























        up vote
        0
        down vote










        up vote
        0
        down vote









        Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



        Putting this all together:



        $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



        In terms of a single variable, you have



        $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



        So, that gives you:



        $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






        share|cite|improve this answer















        Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



        Putting this all together:



        $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



        In terms of a single variable, you have



        $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



        So, that gives you:



        $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$







        share|cite|improve this answer















        share|cite|improve this answer



        share|cite|improve this answer








        edited Jul 31 at 15:50


























        answered Jul 31 at 13:56









        InterstellarProbe

        2,650516




        2,650516






















             

            draft saved


            draft discarded


























             


            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function ()
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2868060%2fevaluating-frac-x-y-given-frac1xy1-y%23new-answer', 'question_page');

            );

            Post as a guest













































































            Comments

            Popular posts from this blog

            Relationship between determinant of matrix and determinant of adjoint?

            Color the edges and diagonals of a regular polygon

            What is the equation of a 3D cone with generalised tilt?