Evaluating $frac x y $, given $frac1x^y+1 = y$

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$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$







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  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






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    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00















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$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$







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  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00













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$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$







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$$dfrac1x^y+1 = y$$



Evaluate



$$dfrac x y $$




We know that



$$dfrac1x^y+1 = x^-(y+1)$$



Which yields



$$x^-y-1 = y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $-1$



$$x^y+1 = dfrac 1 y$$



Multiplying the both sides by $x$



$$x^xy+1 = dfrac x y$$









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  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00

















  • Are these real numbers?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jul 31 at 13:52






  • 2




    What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
    – Rushabh Mehta
    Jul 31 at 13:52










  • $(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 13:55











  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
    – Maxwell
    Jul 31 at 14:00










  • In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
    – JMoravitz
    Jul 31 at 14:00
















Are these real numbers?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jul 31 at 13:52




Are these real numbers?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jul 31 at 13:52




2




2




What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
– Rushabh Mehta
Jul 31 at 13:52




What should $frac x y$ be evaluated in terms of?
– Rushabh Mehta
Jul 31 at 13:52












$(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 13:55





$(x^y+1)cdot x = x^y+2$ not $x^xy+1$. What you seem to have been thinking of might have been $(x^y+1)^x$ but that would have simplified to $x^(y+1)x=x^xy+x$ not $x^xy+1$
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 13:55













@Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
– Maxwell
Jul 31 at 14:00




@Dr.SonnhardGraubner They are.
– Maxwell
Jul 31 at 14:00












In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 14:00





In any case, RushabhMehta brings up a very valid point. Normally for problems like this, we try to express the answer in terms of the fewest variables (or expressed in specific variables). $fracxy$ and $x^y+2$ are both written in terms of two variables, so neither accomplishes the goal of reducing the number of variables. Why should $x^y+2$ be a more desirable final answer than $fracxy$ itself? (I know it is silly to give $fracxy$ as an answer to the question of "express $fracxy$" but it isn't "wrong" per se, and no more or less correct than $x^y+2$ is)
– JMoravitz
Jul 31 at 14:00











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Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



Putting this all together:



$$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



In terms of a single variable, you have



$x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



So, that gives you:



$$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






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    Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



    Putting this all together:



    $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



    In terms of a single variable, you have



    $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



    So, that gives you:



    $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






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      Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



      Putting this all together:



      $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



      In terms of a single variable, you have



      $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



      So, that gives you:



      $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






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        Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



        Putting this all together:



        $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



        In terms of a single variable, you have



        $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



        So, that gives you:



        $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$






        share|cite|improve this answer















        Your final step is not correct. $acdot a^b=a^1cdot a^b = a^1+b$. Multiplying numbers with the same base is additive in the exponent, not multiplicative. So, $xcdot x^y+1 = x^1cdot x^y+1 = x^1+y+1 = x^y+2$.



        Putting this all together:



        $$dfracxy = x^y+2$$



        In terms of a single variable, you have



        $x=left(dfrac1yright)^tfrac1y+1$



        So, that gives you:



        $$dfracxy = left(dfrac1yright)^tfracy+2y+1$$







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