How to obtain the bounds for a and b?

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If $a,b,c$ are Pythagorean triplets. Provided $a+b+c = s$ and $a<b<c$. We can conclude that $alefracs-33$ and $b<fracs-a2$.



From the given conditions we can obtain:
$a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2$.




I am unable to obtain those bounds for $a$ and $b$.




I tried $2a^2 < a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2 < (s-2a)^2$
which gives
$2a^2 > s^2 - 2as$



I don't think this can provide me those bounds.







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    For what stands $s$ here?
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If $a,b,c$ are Pythagorean triplets. Provided $a+b+c = s$ and $a<b<c$. We can conclude that $alefracs-33$ and $b<fracs-a2$.



From the given conditions we can obtain:
$a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2$.




I am unable to obtain those bounds for $a$ and $b$.




I tried $2a^2 < a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2 < (s-2a)^2$
which gives
$2a^2 > s^2 - 2as$



I don't think this can provide me those bounds.







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    For what stands $s$ here?
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    Aug 1 at 10:03










  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner I made a mistake.
    – reego
    Aug 1 at 10:06












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If $a,b,c$ are Pythagorean triplets. Provided $a+b+c = s$ and $a<b<c$. We can conclude that $alefracs-33$ and $b<fracs-a2$.



From the given conditions we can obtain:
$a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2$.




I am unable to obtain those bounds for $a$ and $b$.




I tried $2a^2 < a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2 < (s-2a)^2$
which gives
$2a^2 > s^2 - 2as$



I don't think this can provide me those bounds.







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If $a,b,c$ are Pythagorean triplets. Provided $a+b+c = s$ and $a<b<c$. We can conclude that $alefracs-33$ and $b<fracs-a2$.



From the given conditions we can obtain:
$a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2$.




I am unable to obtain those bounds for $a$ and $b$.




I tried $2a^2 < a^2 + b^2 = (s-a-b)^2 < (s-2a)^2$
which gives
$2a^2 > s^2 - 2as$



I don't think this can provide me those bounds.









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    For what stands $s$ here?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Aug 1 at 10:03










  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner I made a mistake.
    – reego
    Aug 1 at 10:06












  • 2




    For what stands $s$ here?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Aug 1 at 10:03










  • @Dr.SonnhardGraubner I made a mistake.
    – reego
    Aug 1 at 10:06







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For what stands $s$ here?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Aug 1 at 10:03




For what stands $s$ here?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Aug 1 at 10:03












@Dr.SonnhardGraubner I made a mistake.
– reego
Aug 1 at 10:06




@Dr.SonnhardGraubner I made a mistake.
– reego
Aug 1 at 10:06










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Are you asking for a proof of $$aleq dfracs-33text and b<dfracs-a2,?$$ If so, note that $bgeq a+1$ and $cgeq b+1geq a+2$. Therefore,
$$s=a+b+cgeq a+(a+1)+(a+2),,$$
and the first claim is established. (Note that the only equality case for this inequality is $(a,b,c)=(3,4,5)$.)



The second claim follows from $b<c$, namely,
$$s-a=b+c>b+b=2b,.$$
We can obtain a nicer-looking (in my opinion) bound $$bleq dfracs-a-12$$ in this manner too (with the equality case $(a,b,c)=left(2k+1,2k^2+2k,2k^2+2k+1right)$ where $kinmathbbZ_>0$).






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    It's known that if $(a,b,c)$ is a Pythagorean triples then there are natural $m$ and $n$ for which $m>n$ and
    $$a,b,c=m^2-n^2,2mn,m^2+n^2$$
    Thus, $m(m+n)=500$ and number of cases.






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      Are you asking for a proof of $$aleq dfracs-33text and b<dfracs-a2,?$$ If so, note that $bgeq a+1$ and $cgeq b+1geq a+2$. Therefore,
      $$s=a+b+cgeq a+(a+1)+(a+2),,$$
      and the first claim is established. (Note that the only equality case for this inequality is $(a,b,c)=(3,4,5)$.)



      The second claim follows from $b<c$, namely,
      $$s-a=b+c>b+b=2b,.$$
      We can obtain a nicer-looking (in my opinion) bound $$bleq dfracs-a-12$$ in this manner too (with the equality case $(a,b,c)=left(2k+1,2k^2+2k,2k^2+2k+1right)$ where $kinmathbbZ_>0$).






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        Are you asking for a proof of $$aleq dfracs-33text and b<dfracs-a2,?$$ If so, note that $bgeq a+1$ and $cgeq b+1geq a+2$. Therefore,
        $$s=a+b+cgeq a+(a+1)+(a+2),,$$
        and the first claim is established. (Note that the only equality case for this inequality is $(a,b,c)=(3,4,5)$.)



        The second claim follows from $b<c$, namely,
        $$s-a=b+c>b+b=2b,.$$
        We can obtain a nicer-looking (in my opinion) bound $$bleq dfracs-a-12$$ in this manner too (with the equality case $(a,b,c)=left(2k+1,2k^2+2k,2k^2+2k+1right)$ where $kinmathbbZ_>0$).






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          Are you asking for a proof of $$aleq dfracs-33text and b<dfracs-a2,?$$ If so, note that $bgeq a+1$ and $cgeq b+1geq a+2$. Therefore,
          $$s=a+b+cgeq a+(a+1)+(a+2),,$$
          and the first claim is established. (Note that the only equality case for this inequality is $(a,b,c)=(3,4,5)$.)



          The second claim follows from $b<c$, namely,
          $$s-a=b+c>b+b=2b,.$$
          We can obtain a nicer-looking (in my opinion) bound $$bleq dfracs-a-12$$ in this manner too (with the equality case $(a,b,c)=left(2k+1,2k^2+2k,2k^2+2k+1right)$ where $kinmathbbZ_>0$).






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          Are you asking for a proof of $$aleq dfracs-33text and b<dfracs-a2,?$$ If so, note that $bgeq a+1$ and $cgeq b+1geq a+2$. Therefore,
          $$s=a+b+cgeq a+(a+1)+(a+2),,$$
          and the first claim is established. (Note that the only equality case for this inequality is $(a,b,c)=(3,4,5)$.)



          The second claim follows from $b<c$, namely,
          $$s-a=b+c>b+b=2b,.$$
          We can obtain a nicer-looking (in my opinion) bound $$bleq dfracs-a-12$$ in this manner too (with the equality case $(a,b,c)=left(2k+1,2k^2+2k,2k^2+2k+1right)$ where $kinmathbbZ_>0$).







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              It's known that if $(a,b,c)$ is a Pythagorean triples then there are natural $m$ and $n$ for which $m>n$ and
              $$a,b,c=m^2-n^2,2mn,m^2+n^2$$
              Thus, $m(m+n)=500$ and number of cases.






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                It's known that if $(a,b,c)$ is a Pythagorean triples then there are natural $m$ and $n$ for which $m>n$ and
                $$a,b,c=m^2-n^2,2mn,m^2+n^2$$
                Thus, $m(m+n)=500$ and number of cases.






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                  It's known that if $(a,b,c)$ is a Pythagorean triples then there are natural $m$ and $n$ for which $m>n$ and
                  $$a,b,c=m^2-n^2,2mn,m^2+n^2$$
                  Thus, $m(m+n)=500$ and number of cases.






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                  It's known that if $(a,b,c)$ is a Pythagorean triples then there are natural $m$ and $n$ for which $m>n$ and
                  $$a,b,c=m^2-n^2,2mn,m^2+n^2$$
                  Thus, $m(m+n)=500$ and number of cases.







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