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Three men $A$, $B$, $C$ working together can do a job in $6$ hours less time than $A$ alone, in $1$ hour less time than $B$ alone, and in one-half the time needed by $C$ when working alone. Then $A$ and $B$ together can do the job in how many hours?




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    If you know how to solve the problem with a quadratic equation, you should include that in your question. That'll save readers some time and effort in seeking an alternative approach
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  • Not really. Dealing with rates of time and sharing work loads makes for an equation in which one must solve for variables in the reciprical. An the only way to solve those is to invert by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominaters. As the denominaters has a linear combination of variable, the common multiple will be a quadratic.
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  • Not really. Dealing with rates of time and sharing work loads makes for an equation in which one must solve for variables in the reciprical. An the only way to solve those is to invert by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominaters. As the denominaters has a linear combination of variable, the common multiple will be a quadratic.
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  • 6




    If you know how to solve the problem with a quadratic equation, you should include that in your question. That'll save readers some time and effort in seeking an alternative approach
    – Blue
    Jul 27 at 18:42










  • Not really. Dealing with rates of time and sharing work loads makes for an equation in which one must solve for variables in the reciprical. An the only way to solve those is to invert by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominaters. As the denominaters has a linear combination of variable, the common multiple will be a quadratic.
    – fleablood
    Jul 27 at 19:10












  • 6




    If you know how to solve the problem with a quadratic equation, you should include that in your question. That'll save readers some time and effort in seeking an alternative approach
    – Blue
    Jul 27 at 18:42










  • Not really. Dealing with rates of time and sharing work loads makes for an equation in which one must solve for variables in the reciprical. An the only way to solve those is to invert by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominaters. As the denominaters has a linear combination of variable, the common multiple will be a quadratic.
    – fleablood
    Jul 27 at 19:10







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If you know how to solve the problem with a quadratic equation, you should include that in your question. That'll save readers some time and effort in seeking an alternative approach
– Blue
Jul 27 at 18:42




If you know how to solve the problem with a quadratic equation, you should include that in your question. That'll save readers some time and effort in seeking an alternative approach
– Blue
Jul 27 at 18:42












Not really. Dealing with rates of time and sharing work loads makes for an equation in which one must solve for variables in the reciprical. An the only way to solve those is to invert by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominaters. As the denominaters has a linear combination of variable, the common multiple will be a quadratic.
– fleablood
Jul 27 at 19:10




Not really. Dealing with rates of time and sharing work loads makes for an equation in which one must solve for variables in the reciprical. An the only way to solve those is to invert by multiplying by a common multiple of the denominaters. As the denominaters has a linear combination of variable, the common multiple will be a quadratic.
– fleablood
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    I think it is not possible without a qudratic equation, here is my solution.



    Let's indicate with 100 the work to be done and with $x,y,z$ the productivity for A,B,C.



    We know that



    $$frac100x+y+z=frac100x-6 implies100x=100(x+y+z)-6x(x+y+z)$$



    $$frac100x+y+z=frac100y-1implies100y=100(x+y+z)-y(x+y+z)$$



    $$frac100x+y+z=frac12frac100zimplies z=x+y$$



    then summing up the two first equations we obtain



    $$100z=400z-(5x+z)(2z)implies5x+z=150 implies z=150-5x$$



    and from the first one



    $$100x=200z-12xz implies100x=30000-1000x-1800x+60x^2 $$



    $$implies 3x^2-145x+1500=0$$



    $$implies x=15 implies z=75 implies y=60$$



    Thus $A$ and $B$ working togheter need $frac10075=frac43$h to complete the work.






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    • @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
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      Jul 27 at 19:01










    • @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
      – gimusi
      Jul 27 at 19:02






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      A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
      – Doug M
      Jul 27 at 20:29










    • @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
      – gimusi
      Jul 27 at 20:30










    • Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
      – Doug M
      Jul 27 at 20:32

















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            I think it is not possible without a qudratic equation, here is my solution.



            Let's indicate with 100 the work to be done and with $x,y,z$ the productivity for A,B,C.



            We know that



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100x-6 implies100x=100(x+y+z)-6x(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100y-1implies100y=100(x+y+z)-y(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac12frac100zimplies z=x+y$$



            then summing up the two first equations we obtain



            $$100z=400z-(5x+z)(2z)implies5x+z=150 implies z=150-5x$$



            and from the first one



            $$100x=200z-12xz implies100x=30000-1000x-1800x+60x^2 $$



            $$implies 3x^2-145x+1500=0$$



            $$implies x=15 implies z=75 implies y=60$$



            Thus $A$ and $B$ working togheter need $frac10075=frac43$h to complete the work.






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            • @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
              – Vasya
              Jul 27 at 19:01










            • @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 19:02






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              A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:29










            • @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 20:30










            • Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:32














            up vote
            0
            down vote













            I think it is not possible without a qudratic equation, here is my solution.



            Let's indicate with 100 the work to be done and with $x,y,z$ the productivity for A,B,C.



            We know that



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100x-6 implies100x=100(x+y+z)-6x(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100y-1implies100y=100(x+y+z)-y(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac12frac100zimplies z=x+y$$



            then summing up the two first equations we obtain



            $$100z=400z-(5x+z)(2z)implies5x+z=150 implies z=150-5x$$



            and from the first one



            $$100x=200z-12xz implies100x=30000-1000x-1800x+60x^2 $$



            $$implies 3x^2-145x+1500=0$$



            $$implies x=15 implies z=75 implies y=60$$



            Thus $A$ and $B$ working togheter need $frac10075=frac43$h to complete the work.






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
              – Vasya
              Jul 27 at 19:01










            • @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 19:02






            • 1




              A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:29










            • @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 20:30










            • Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:32












            up vote
            0
            down vote










            up vote
            0
            down vote









            I think it is not possible without a qudratic equation, here is my solution.



            Let's indicate with 100 the work to be done and with $x,y,z$ the productivity for A,B,C.



            We know that



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100x-6 implies100x=100(x+y+z)-6x(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100y-1implies100y=100(x+y+z)-y(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac12frac100zimplies z=x+y$$



            then summing up the two first equations we obtain



            $$100z=400z-(5x+z)(2z)implies5x+z=150 implies z=150-5x$$



            and from the first one



            $$100x=200z-12xz implies100x=30000-1000x-1800x+60x^2 $$



            $$implies 3x^2-145x+1500=0$$



            $$implies x=15 implies z=75 implies y=60$$



            Thus $A$ and $B$ working togheter need $frac10075=frac43$h to complete the work.






            share|cite|improve this answer















            I think it is not possible without a qudratic equation, here is my solution.



            Let's indicate with 100 the work to be done and with $x,y,z$ the productivity for A,B,C.



            We know that



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100x-6 implies100x=100(x+y+z)-6x(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac100y-1implies100y=100(x+y+z)-y(x+y+z)$$



            $$frac100x+y+z=frac12frac100zimplies z=x+y$$



            then summing up the two first equations we obtain



            $$100z=400z-(5x+z)(2z)implies5x+z=150 implies z=150-5x$$



            and from the first one



            $$100x=200z-12xz implies100x=30000-1000x-1800x+60x^2 $$



            $$implies 3x^2-145x+1500=0$$



            $$implies x=15 implies z=75 implies y=60$$



            Thus $A$ and $B$ working togheter need $frac10075=frac43$h to complete the work.







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            • @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
              – Vasya
              Jul 27 at 19:01










            • @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 19:02






            • 1




              A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:29










            • @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 20:30










            • Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:32
















            • @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
              – Vasya
              Jul 27 at 19:01










            • @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 19:02






            • 1




              A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:29










            • @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 20:30










            • Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
              – Doug M
              Jul 27 at 20:32















            @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
            – Vasya
            Jul 27 at 19:01




            @gmusi: the quadratic equation has two roots, why did you pick $15$?
            – Vasya
            Jul 27 at 19:01












            @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
            – gimusi
            Jul 27 at 19:02




            @Vasya The other one (100/3) gives a negative value for $z$.
            – gimusi
            Jul 27 at 19:02




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            A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
            – Doug M
            Jul 27 at 20:29




            A and B working toghether $= frac 100x+y = frac 10075 = frac 43$ hours.
            – Doug M
            Jul 27 at 20:29












            @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
            – gimusi
            Jul 27 at 20:30




            @DougM Ops...yes I summed up A and C...thanks I fix
            – gimusi
            Jul 27 at 20:30












            Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
            – Doug M
            Jul 27 at 20:32




            Oh, how many times have I done great work right up to the last step and then lost my focus.
            – Doug M
            Jul 27 at 20:32


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