How do you prove that $5(7^n)+3(11^n)-8$ is divisible by $3$ for all natural numbers $n$? [closed]
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How do you prove that $5(7^n)+3(11^n)-8$ is divisible by $3$ for all natural numbers $n$? I have been trying to figure this out and kept reaching dead ends. I would be grateful for some help
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How do you prove that $5(7^n)+3(11^n)-8$ is divisible by $3$ for all natural numbers $n$? I have been trying to figure this out and kept reaching dead ends. I would be grateful for some help
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You only need to check $n=0,1,2$ (since the powers of $7,11$ are periodic $pmod 3$).
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By induction you can prove that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is divisible by $3$. The $3cdot 11^n$ is multiple of $3$ explicitly: For $n=0$, $5cdot 7^0-8=-3$, which is a multiple of $3$. If you assume that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is multiple of $3$, then $5cdot 7^n+1-8=3cdot 2cdot 5cdot 7^n+ (5cdot 7^n-8)$, which is a sum of two multiples of $3$.
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How do you prove that $5(7^n)+3(11^n)-8$ is divisible by $3$ for all natural numbers $n$? I have been trying to figure this out and kept reaching dead ends. I would be grateful for some help
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How do you prove that $5(7^n)+3(11^n)-8$ is divisible by $3$ for all natural numbers $n$? I have been trying to figure this out and kept reaching dead ends. I would be grateful for some help
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You only need to check $n=0,1,2$ (since the powers of $7,11$ are periodic $pmod 3$).
– lulu
Jul 27 at 11:19
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By induction you can prove that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is divisible by $3$. The $3cdot 11^n$ is multiple of $3$ explicitly: For $n=0$, $5cdot 7^0-8=-3$, which is a multiple of $3$. If you assume that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is multiple of $3$, then $5cdot 7^n+1-8=3cdot 2cdot 5cdot 7^n+ (5cdot 7^n-8)$, which is a sum of two multiples of $3$.
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You only need to check $n=0,1,2$ (since the powers of $7,11$ are periodic $pmod 3$).
– lulu
Jul 27 at 11:19
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Welcome to MathSE. This tutorial explains how to typeset mathematics on this site.
– N. F. Taussig
Jul 27 at 11:21
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By induction you can prove that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is divisible by $3$. The $3cdot 11^n$ is multiple of $3$ explicitly: For $n=0$, $5cdot 7^0-8=-3$, which is a multiple of $3$. If you assume that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is multiple of $3$, then $5cdot 7^n+1-8=3cdot 2cdot 5cdot 7^n+ (5cdot 7^n-8)$, which is a sum of two multiples of $3$.
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Jul 27 at 11:26
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You only need to check $n=0,1,2$ (since the powers of $7,11$ are periodic $pmod 3$).
– lulu
Jul 27 at 11:19
You only need to check $n=0,1,2$ (since the powers of $7,11$ are periodic $pmod 3$).
– lulu
Jul 27 at 11:19
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Welcome to MathSE. This tutorial explains how to typeset mathematics on this site.
– N. F. Taussig
Jul 27 at 11:21
Welcome to MathSE. This tutorial explains how to typeset mathematics on this site.
– N. F. Taussig
Jul 27 at 11:21
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By induction you can prove that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is divisible by $3$. The $3cdot 11^n$ is multiple of $3$ explicitly: For $n=0$, $5cdot 7^0-8=-3$, which is a multiple of $3$. If you assume that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is multiple of $3$, then $5cdot 7^n+1-8=3cdot 2cdot 5cdot 7^n+ (5cdot 7^n-8)$, which is a sum of two multiples of $3$.
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Jul 27 at 11:26
By induction you can prove that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is divisible by $3$. The $3cdot 11^n$ is multiple of $3$ explicitly: For $n=0$, $5cdot 7^0-8=-3$, which is a multiple of $3$. If you assume that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is multiple of $3$, then $5cdot 7^n+1-8=3cdot 2cdot 5cdot 7^n+ (5cdot 7^n-8)$, which is a sum of two multiples of $3$.
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If you are unfamiliar with modulo arithmetic:
- Since $7^n=(6+1)^n = 1^n + *cdot 1^n-16^1 + cdots + *cdot 1cdot 6^n-1 + * cdot 6^n$, (where it's not important which numbers are in the positions marked by an asterisk), you can see that $7^n = 3k_1 + 1$ for some $k_1inmathbb N$
- Similarly, you can show that $11^k = (12-1)^n = 3k_2 + (-1)^n$ for some $k_2inmathbb N$, but in this case, that doesn't even matter, because $3cdot 11^n$ is always divisible by $3$.
You also have $8 = 3cdot 2 + 2$, so you have
$$beginalign5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 &= 5cdot (3k_1 + 1) + 3cdot 11^n - 3cdot 2 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 5 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 3 \&= 3cdot (5k_1 + 11^n - 2 + 1)endalign$$ which is clearly a multiple of $3$.
I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
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Using modular arithmetic: modulo $3$,
beginalign*
5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 equiv 2cdot 1^n+0 -2 = 0
endalign*
for all $n$.
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2 Answers
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If you are unfamiliar with modulo arithmetic:
- Since $7^n=(6+1)^n = 1^n + *cdot 1^n-16^1 + cdots + *cdot 1cdot 6^n-1 + * cdot 6^n$, (where it's not important which numbers are in the positions marked by an asterisk), you can see that $7^n = 3k_1 + 1$ for some $k_1inmathbb N$
- Similarly, you can show that $11^k = (12-1)^n = 3k_2 + (-1)^n$ for some $k_2inmathbb N$, but in this case, that doesn't even matter, because $3cdot 11^n$ is always divisible by $3$.
You also have $8 = 3cdot 2 + 2$, so you have
$$beginalign5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 &= 5cdot (3k_1 + 1) + 3cdot 11^n - 3cdot 2 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 5 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 3 \&= 3cdot (5k_1 + 11^n - 2 + 1)endalign$$ which is clearly a multiple of $3$.
I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
– 5xum
Jul 27 at 11:36
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If you are unfamiliar with modulo arithmetic:
- Since $7^n=(6+1)^n = 1^n + *cdot 1^n-16^1 + cdots + *cdot 1cdot 6^n-1 + * cdot 6^n$, (where it's not important which numbers are in the positions marked by an asterisk), you can see that $7^n = 3k_1 + 1$ for some $k_1inmathbb N$
- Similarly, you can show that $11^k = (12-1)^n = 3k_2 + (-1)^n$ for some $k_2inmathbb N$, but in this case, that doesn't even matter, because $3cdot 11^n$ is always divisible by $3$.
You also have $8 = 3cdot 2 + 2$, so you have
$$beginalign5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 &= 5cdot (3k_1 + 1) + 3cdot 11^n - 3cdot 2 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 5 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 3 \&= 3cdot (5k_1 + 11^n - 2 + 1)endalign$$ which is clearly a multiple of $3$.
I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
– 5xum
Jul 27 at 11:36
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up vote
4
down vote
accepted
If you are unfamiliar with modulo arithmetic:
- Since $7^n=(6+1)^n = 1^n + *cdot 1^n-16^1 + cdots + *cdot 1cdot 6^n-1 + * cdot 6^n$, (where it's not important which numbers are in the positions marked by an asterisk), you can see that $7^n = 3k_1 + 1$ for some $k_1inmathbb N$
- Similarly, you can show that $11^k = (12-1)^n = 3k_2 + (-1)^n$ for some $k_2inmathbb N$, but in this case, that doesn't even matter, because $3cdot 11^n$ is always divisible by $3$.
You also have $8 = 3cdot 2 + 2$, so you have
$$beginalign5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 &= 5cdot (3k_1 + 1) + 3cdot 11^n - 3cdot 2 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 5 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 3 \&= 3cdot (5k_1 + 11^n - 2 + 1)endalign$$ which is clearly a multiple of $3$.
If you are unfamiliar with modulo arithmetic:
- Since $7^n=(6+1)^n = 1^n + *cdot 1^n-16^1 + cdots + *cdot 1cdot 6^n-1 + * cdot 6^n$, (where it's not important which numbers are in the positions marked by an asterisk), you can see that $7^n = 3k_1 + 1$ for some $k_1inmathbb N$
- Similarly, you can show that $11^k = (12-1)^n = 3k_2 + (-1)^n$ for some $k_2inmathbb N$, but in this case, that doesn't even matter, because $3cdot 11^n$ is always divisible by $3$.
You also have $8 = 3cdot 2 + 2$, so you have
$$beginalign5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 &= 5cdot (3k_1 + 1) + 3cdot 11^n - 3cdot 2 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 5 - 2 \&= 3cdot(5k_1 + 11^n - 2) + 3 \&= 3cdot (5k_1 + 11^n - 2 + 1)endalign$$ which is clearly a multiple of $3$.
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I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
– 5xum
Jul 27 at 11:36
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I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
– 5xum
Jul 27 at 11:36
I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
I think you've got a superfluous equals-sign in your first equation.
– Jam
Jul 27 at 11:35
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
– 5xum
Jul 27 at 11:36
@Jam Yeah it was supposed to be a $+$ sign
– 5xum
Jul 27 at 11:36
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Using modular arithmetic: modulo $3$,
beginalign*
5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 equiv 2cdot 1^n+0 -2 = 0
endalign*
for all $n$.
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up vote
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Using modular arithmetic: modulo $3$,
beginalign*
5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 equiv 2cdot 1^n+0 -2 = 0
endalign*
for all $n$.
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up vote
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down vote
up vote
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down vote
Using modular arithmetic: modulo $3$,
beginalign*
5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 equiv 2cdot 1^n+0 -2 = 0
endalign*
for all $n$.
Using modular arithmetic: modulo $3$,
beginalign*
5cdot 7^n + 3cdot 11^n - 8 equiv 2cdot 1^n+0 -2 = 0
endalign*
for all $n$.
answered Jul 27 at 11:20


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You only need to check $n=0,1,2$ (since the powers of $7,11$ are periodic $pmod 3$).
– lulu
Jul 27 at 11:19
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– N. F. Taussig
Jul 27 at 11:21
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By induction you can prove that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is divisible by $3$. The $3cdot 11^n$ is multiple of $3$ explicitly: For $n=0$, $5cdot 7^0-8=-3$, which is a multiple of $3$. If you assume that $5cdot 7^n-8$ is multiple of $3$, then $5cdot 7^n+1-8=3cdot 2cdot 5cdot 7^n+ (5cdot 7^n-8)$, which is a sum of two multiples of $3$.
– user578878
Jul 27 at 11:26