How to calculate the smallest surface needed to have a cylinder of 1.75 dm^3?

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I'm new to optimization, and I'm doing simple exercises. Nevertheless I have the impression that, in order to find the smallest surface needed to get a $1.75$ dm^3 cylinder, I should look for the minima of a function $f_s(r,h)= 2pi r h + 2pi r^2$ such that $pi r^2h=1.75$, which implies going MUCH further than my current level by working on a bivariate function.



What is the simplest way of solving this problem?



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    I believe it should be $f_s(r,h)=2pi r(h+r)$ which is the total surface area of a cylinder, otherwise as $rtoinfty$ you'd get $textSurface Areato0$.
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I'm new to optimization, and I'm doing simple exercises. Nevertheless I have the impression that, in order to find the smallest surface needed to get a $1.75$ dm^3 cylinder, I should look for the minima of a function $f_s(r,h)= 2pi r h + 2pi r^2$ such that $pi r^2h=1.75$, which implies going MUCH further than my current level by working on a bivariate function.



What is the simplest way of solving this problem?



Thanks in advance for your answer.







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    I believe it should be $f_s(r,h)=2pi r(h+r)$ which is the total surface area of a cylinder, otherwise as $rtoinfty$ you'd get $textSurface Areato0$.
    – MalayTheDynamo
    Jul 27 at 18:14












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I'm new to optimization, and I'm doing simple exercises. Nevertheless I have the impression that, in order to find the smallest surface needed to get a $1.75$ dm^3 cylinder, I should look for the minima of a function $f_s(r,h)= 2pi r h + 2pi r^2$ such that $pi r^2h=1.75$, which implies going MUCH further than my current level by working on a bivariate function.



What is the simplest way of solving this problem?



Thanks in advance for your answer.







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I'm new to optimization, and I'm doing simple exercises. Nevertheless I have the impression that, in order to find the smallest surface needed to get a $1.75$ dm^3 cylinder, I should look for the minima of a function $f_s(r,h)= 2pi r h + 2pi r^2$ such that $pi r^2h=1.75$, which implies going MUCH further than my current level by working on a bivariate function.



What is the simplest way of solving this problem?



Thanks in advance for your answer.









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    I believe it should be $f_s(r,h)=2pi r(h+r)$ which is the total surface area of a cylinder, otherwise as $rtoinfty$ you'd get $textSurface Areato0$.
    – MalayTheDynamo
    Jul 27 at 18:14












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    I believe it should be $f_s(r,h)=2pi r(h+r)$ which is the total surface area of a cylinder, otherwise as $rtoinfty$ you'd get $textSurface Areato0$.
    – MalayTheDynamo
    Jul 27 at 18:14







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I believe it should be $f_s(r,h)=2pi r(h+r)$ which is the total surface area of a cylinder, otherwise as $rtoinfty$ you'd get $textSurface Areato0$.
– MalayTheDynamo
Jul 27 at 18:14




I believe it should be $f_s(r,h)=2pi r(h+r)$ which is the total surface area of a cylinder, otherwise as $rtoinfty$ you'd get $textSurface Areato0$.
– MalayTheDynamo
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  • $pi r^2h=1.75 implies pi rh=frac1.75r$

and then including the bases



  • $f_s(r)= 2pi r(r + h)=2pi r^2+frac3.5r$





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    $$pi r^2 h = 1.75$$



    $$h = frac1.75pi r^2$$



    What you want to optimize is



    $$2pi r (h+r) = 2pi r cdot left(frac1.75pi r^2+rright)=frac3.5r+2pi r^2$$ subject to $r >0$.



    Now the question is single variable and hopefully you can take it from here.






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      It is given the Surface of this cylinder:
      $$A=2pi r^2+2pi rh$$ and the volume $$V=7/4=pi r^2h$$.
      Solve this equation for $$h$$ and plugg it in the Surface Formula, which containes then only one variable.






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        HINT



        We have



        • $pi r^2h=1.75 implies pi rh=frac1.75r$

        and then including the bases



        • $f_s(r)= 2pi r(r + h)=2pi r^2+frac3.5r$





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          HINT



          We have



          • $pi r^2h=1.75 implies pi rh=frac1.75r$

          and then including the bases



          • $f_s(r)= 2pi r(r + h)=2pi r^2+frac3.5r$





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            HINT



            We have



            • $pi r^2h=1.75 implies pi rh=frac1.75r$

            and then including the bases



            • $f_s(r)= 2pi r(r + h)=2pi r^2+frac3.5r$





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            HINT



            We have



            • $pi r^2h=1.75 implies pi rh=frac1.75r$

            and then including the bases



            • $f_s(r)= 2pi r(r + h)=2pi r^2+frac3.5r$






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                $$pi r^2 h = 1.75$$



                $$h = frac1.75pi r^2$$



                What you want to optimize is



                $$2pi r (h+r) = 2pi r cdot left(frac1.75pi r^2+rright)=frac3.5r+2pi r^2$$ subject to $r >0$.



                Now the question is single variable and hopefully you can take it from here.






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                  $$pi r^2 h = 1.75$$



                  $$h = frac1.75pi r^2$$



                  What you want to optimize is



                  $$2pi r (h+r) = 2pi r cdot left(frac1.75pi r^2+rright)=frac3.5r+2pi r^2$$ subject to $r >0$.



                  Now the question is single variable and hopefully you can take it from here.






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                    $$pi r^2 h = 1.75$$



                    $$h = frac1.75pi r^2$$



                    What you want to optimize is



                    $$2pi r (h+r) = 2pi r cdot left(frac1.75pi r^2+rright)=frac3.5r+2pi r^2$$ subject to $r >0$.



                    Now the question is single variable and hopefully you can take it from here.






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                    $$pi r^2 h = 1.75$$



                    $$h = frac1.75pi r^2$$



                    What you want to optimize is



                    $$2pi r (h+r) = 2pi r cdot left(frac1.75pi r^2+rright)=frac3.5r+2pi r^2$$ subject to $r >0$.



                    Now the question is single variable and hopefully you can take it from here.







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                        It is given the Surface of this cylinder:
                        $$A=2pi r^2+2pi rh$$ and the volume $$V=7/4=pi r^2h$$.
                        Solve this equation for $$h$$ and plugg it in the Surface Formula, which containes then only one variable.






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                          It is given the Surface of this cylinder:
                          $$A=2pi r^2+2pi rh$$ and the volume $$V=7/4=pi r^2h$$.
                          Solve this equation for $$h$$ and plugg it in the Surface Formula, which containes then only one variable.






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                            It is given the Surface of this cylinder:
                            $$A=2pi r^2+2pi rh$$ and the volume $$V=7/4=pi r^2h$$.
                            Solve this equation for $$h$$ and plugg it in the Surface Formula, which containes then only one variable.






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                            It is given the Surface of this cylinder:
                            $$A=2pi r^2+2pi rh$$ and the volume $$V=7/4=pi r^2h$$.
                            Solve this equation for $$h$$ and plugg it in the Surface Formula, which containes then only one variable.







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