Is it true that $limsup a_n geq limsup b_n$ implies $limsup a_n^s_n geq limsup b_n^s_n$ for $a_n, b_n geq 0$ and $s_n > 0$ and increasing?
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Potential first step: If $limsup a_n geq limsup b_n$, along some subsequence and for large enough $n_k$ we have $a_n_k geq b_n_k$. Then, $a_n_k^s_n_k geq b_n_k^s_n_k$, so somehow $limsup a_n_k^s_n_k geq limsup b_n_k^s_n_k$?
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Potential first step: If $limsup a_n geq limsup b_n$, along some subsequence and for large enough $n_k$ we have $a_n_k geq b_n_k$. Then, $a_n_k^s_n_k geq b_n_k^s_n_k$, so somehow $limsup a_n_k^s_n_k geq limsup b_n_k^s_n_k$?
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You may need to rephrase your question. For example, where comes the $s_n$. The word "increasing" refers to which sequence?
– Danny Pak-Keung Chan
Jul 27 at 1:16
We may have $a_n<b_n$ for every $n$ and still have $limsup a_n=lim sup b_n.$ For example $a_n=1-2^-n$ and $b_n=(1+a_n)/2.$
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Jul 27 at 1:31
C_n should have been s_n and that's the increasing sequence
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Potential first step: If $limsup a_n geq limsup b_n$, along some subsequence and for large enough $n_k$ we have $a_n_k geq b_n_k$. Then, $a_n_k^s_n_k geq b_n_k^s_n_k$, so somehow $limsup a_n_k^s_n_k geq limsup b_n_k^s_n_k$?
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Potential first step: If $limsup a_n geq limsup b_n$, along some subsequence and for large enough $n_k$ we have $a_n_k geq b_n_k$. Then, $a_n_k^s_n_k geq b_n_k^s_n_k$, so somehow $limsup a_n_k^s_n_k geq limsup b_n_k^s_n_k$?
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You may need to rephrase your question. For example, where comes the $s_n$. The word "increasing" refers to which sequence?
– Danny Pak-Keung Chan
Jul 27 at 1:16
We may have $a_n<b_n$ for every $n$ and still have $limsup a_n=lim sup b_n.$ For example $a_n=1-2^-n$ and $b_n=(1+a_n)/2.$
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 27 at 1:31
C_n should have been s_n and that's the increasing sequence
– user509037
Jul 27 at 1:50
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You may need to rephrase your question. For example, where comes the $s_n$. The word "increasing" refers to which sequence?
– Danny Pak-Keung Chan
Jul 27 at 1:16
We may have $a_n<b_n$ for every $n$ and still have $limsup a_n=lim sup b_n.$ For example $a_n=1-2^-n$ and $b_n=(1+a_n)/2.$
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 27 at 1:31
C_n should have been s_n and that's the increasing sequence
– user509037
Jul 27 at 1:50
You may need to rephrase your question. For example, where comes the $s_n$. The word "increasing" refers to which sequence?
– Danny Pak-Keung Chan
Jul 27 at 1:16
You may need to rephrase your question. For example, where comes the $s_n$. The word "increasing" refers to which sequence?
– Danny Pak-Keung Chan
Jul 27 at 1:16
We may have $a_n<b_n$ for every $n$ and still have $limsup a_n=lim sup b_n.$ For example $a_n=1-2^-n$ and $b_n=(1+a_n)/2.$
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 27 at 1:31
We may have $a_n<b_n$ for every $n$ and still have $limsup a_n=lim sup b_n.$ For example $a_n=1-2^-n$ and $b_n=(1+a_n)/2.$
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 27 at 1:31
C_n should have been s_n and that's the increasing sequence
– user509037
Jul 27 at 1:50
C_n should have been s_n and that's the increasing sequence
– user509037
Jul 27 at 1:50
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Let $a_n = 1-1 over n, b_n = 1+ 1 over n$. Let $s_n = n$.
Then $1 = limsup_n a_n ge limsup_n b_n = 1$, but
$1 over e = limsup_n a_n^s_n < limsup_n b_n^s_n = e$.
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
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accepted
Let $a_n = 1-1 over n, b_n = 1+ 1 over n$. Let $s_n = n$.
Then $1 = limsup_n a_n ge limsup_n b_n = 1$, but
$1 over e = limsup_n a_n^s_n < limsup_n b_n^s_n = e$.
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Let $a_n = 1-1 over n, b_n = 1+ 1 over n$. Let $s_n = n$.
Then $1 = limsup_n a_n ge limsup_n b_n = 1$, but
$1 over e = limsup_n a_n^s_n < limsup_n b_n^s_n = e$.
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Let $a_n = 1-1 over n, b_n = 1+ 1 over n$. Let $s_n = n$.
Then $1 = limsup_n a_n ge limsup_n b_n = 1$, but
$1 over e = limsup_n a_n^s_n < limsup_n b_n^s_n = e$.
Let $a_n = 1-1 over n, b_n = 1+ 1 over n$. Let $s_n = n$.
Then $1 = limsup_n a_n ge limsup_n b_n = 1$, but
$1 over e = limsup_n a_n^s_n < limsup_n b_n^s_n = e$.
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You may need to rephrase your question. For example, where comes the $s_n$. The word "increasing" refers to which sequence?
– Danny Pak-Keung Chan
Jul 27 at 1:16
We may have $a_n<b_n$ for every $n$ and still have $limsup a_n=lim sup b_n.$ For example $a_n=1-2^-n$ and $b_n=(1+a_n)/2.$
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 27 at 1:31
C_n should have been s_n and that's the increasing sequence
– user509037
Jul 27 at 1:50