Do positive integers $a,b,c,d$ exist with the given properties?

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I ask whether positive integers $a,b,c,d$ exist with the following properties :



$(1) 0<a<b<c<d $



$(2) ad=bc$



$(3) sigma(a)=sigma(d)$



$(4) sigma(b)=sigma(c)$



where $sigma(n)$ denotes the divisor-sum-function. Upto $d=200$, there is no solution, so I conjecture that not all the conditions can be satisfied.



This would answer the question , whether distinct pairs of amicable numbers can have the same product , in a negative way.




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    I don't know the answer, but you should start by thinking about the prime factorizations of $ad$ and $bc$ and the formula for $sigma.$
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    Jul 22 at 13:34










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Inspired by this question : Amicable pairs of numbers and their product



I ask whether positive integers $a,b,c,d$ exist with the following properties :



$(1) 0<a<b<c<d $



$(2) ad=bc$



$(3) sigma(a)=sigma(d)$



$(4) sigma(b)=sigma(c)$



where $sigma(n)$ denotes the divisor-sum-function. Upto $d=200$, there is no solution, so I conjecture that not all the conditions can be satisfied.



This would answer the question , whether distinct pairs of amicable numbers can have the same product , in a negative way.




number-theory elementary-number-theory divisor-sum




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    I don't know the answer, but you should start by thinking about the prime factorizations of $ad$ and $bc$ and the formula for $sigma.$
    – saulspatz
    Jul 22 at 13:34










  • Usually, I do not care of downvotes, but in this case I am really curious for the reason ...
    – Peter
    Jul 26 at 20:12












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Inspired by this question : Amicable pairs of numbers and their product



I ask whether positive integers $a,b,c,d$ exist with the following properties :



$(1) 0<a<b<c<d $



$(2) ad=bc$



$(3) sigma(a)=sigma(d)$



$(4) sigma(b)=sigma(c)$



where $sigma(n)$ denotes the divisor-sum-function. Upto $d=200$, there is no solution, so I conjecture that not all the conditions can be satisfied.



This would answer the question , whether distinct pairs of amicable numbers can have the same product , in a negative way.




number-theory elementary-number-theory divisor-sum




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Inspired by this question : Amicable pairs of numbers and their product



I ask whether positive integers $a,b,c,d$ exist with the following properties :



$(1) 0<a<b<c<d $



$(2) ad=bc$



$(3) sigma(a)=sigma(d)$



$(4) sigma(b)=sigma(c)$



where $sigma(n)$ denotes the divisor-sum-function. Upto $d=200$, there is no solution, so I conjecture that not all the conditions can be satisfied.



This would answer the question , whether distinct pairs of amicable numbers can have the same product , in a negative way.





number-theory elementary-number-theory divisor-sum





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    I don't know the answer, but you should start by thinking about the prime factorizations of $ad$ and $bc$ and the formula for $sigma.$
    – saulspatz
    Jul 22 at 13:34










  • Usually, I do not care of downvotes, but in this case I am really curious for the reason ...
    – Peter
    Jul 26 at 20:12












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    I don't know the answer, but you should start by thinking about the prime factorizations of $ad$ and $bc$ and the formula for $sigma.$
    – saulspatz
    Jul 22 at 13:34










  • Usually, I do not care of downvotes, but in this case I am really curious for the reason ...
    – Peter
    Jul 26 at 20:12







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I don't know the answer, but you should start by thinking about the prime factorizations of $ad$ and $bc$ and the formula for $sigma.$
– saulspatz
Jul 22 at 13:34




I don't know the answer, but you should start by thinking about the prime factorizations of $ad$ and $bc$ and the formula for $sigma.$
– saulspatz
Jul 22 at 13:34












Usually, I do not care of downvotes, but in this case I am really curious for the reason ...
– Peter
Jul 26 at 20:12




Usually, I do not care of downvotes, but in this case I am really curious for the reason ...
– Peter
Jul 26 at 20:12










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$a=210$, $b=310$, $c=357$, $d=527$.






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  • OK, so this cannot be used for the proof.
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  • OK, so this cannot be used for the proof.
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