Example of a noncompact operator on $L^2([0,1])$

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For $f in L^2([0,1])$, define operator $Tf: x mapsto frac1xint_0^x f(y)dy$. Show that $T$ is not a compact operator on $L^2([0,1])$ and that $T$ is bounded.



For the second part, I can show $T$ is bounded by looking at $|Tf|_2$ and rewriting it by integration by parts and then apply the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality. However, I was not able to find a bounded sequence of $L^2$ functions so that its image under $T$ is not precompact in $L^2$.



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    Hint: try $f_n(x) = sqrtn 1_[0,1/n](x)$. A helpful fact is that if a sequence converges in $L^2$ then it has a subsequence which converges almost surely, so you can identify the possible limit points of $T f_n$.
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For $f in L^2([0,1])$, define operator $Tf: x mapsto frac1xint_0^x f(y)dy$. Show that $T$ is not a compact operator on $L^2([0,1])$ and that $T$ is bounded.



For the second part, I can show $T$ is bounded by looking at $|Tf|_2$ and rewriting it by integration by parts and then apply the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality. However, I was not able to find a bounded sequence of $L^2$ functions so that its image under $T$ is not precompact in $L^2$.



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    Hint: try $f_n(x) = sqrtn 1_[0,1/n](x)$. A helpful fact is that if a sequence converges in $L^2$ then it has a subsequence which converges almost surely, so you can identify the possible limit points of $T f_n$.
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For $f in L^2([0,1])$, define operator $Tf: x mapsto frac1xint_0^x f(y)dy$. Show that $T$ is not a compact operator on $L^2([0,1])$ and that $T$ is bounded.



For the second part, I can show $T$ is bounded by looking at $|Tf|_2$ and rewriting it by integration by parts and then apply the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality. However, I was not able to find a bounded sequence of $L^2$ functions so that its image under $T$ is not precompact in $L^2$.



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For $f in L^2([0,1])$, define operator $Tf: x mapsto frac1xint_0^x f(y)dy$. Show that $T$ is not a compact operator on $L^2([0,1])$ and that $T$ is bounded.



For the second part, I can show $T$ is bounded by looking at $|Tf|_2$ and rewriting it by integration by parts and then apply the Cauchy-Schwartz inequality. However, I was not able to find a bounded sequence of $L^2$ functions so that its image under $T$ is not precompact in $L^2$.



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    Hint: try $f_n(x) = sqrtn 1_[0,1/n](x)$. A helpful fact is that if a sequence converges in $L^2$ then it has a subsequence which converges almost surely, so you can identify the possible limit points of $T f_n$.
    – Chris Janjigian
    Jul 23 at 0:22












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    Hint: try $f_n(x) = sqrtn 1_[0,1/n](x)$. A helpful fact is that if a sequence converges in $L^2$ then it has a subsequence which converges almost surely, so you can identify the possible limit points of $T f_n$.
    – Chris Janjigian
    Jul 23 at 0:22







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Hint: try $f_n(x) = sqrtn 1_[0,1/n](x)$. A helpful fact is that if a sequence converges in $L^2$ then it has a subsequence which converges almost surely, so you can identify the possible limit points of $T f_n$.
– Chris Janjigian
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Hint: try $f_n(x) = sqrtn 1_[0,1/n](x)$. A helpful fact is that if a sequence converges in $L^2$ then it has a subsequence which converges almost surely, so you can identify the possible limit points of $T f_n$.
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For $f_n(x) = sqrt n chi_(0, frac 1 n](x)$ we have
begineqnarray*
Tf_n(x)
& = &
frac 1 x int_0^xsqrt nchi_(0, frac 1 n](y); rm d y\
& = &
begincases
sqrt n & text if 0< x leq frac 1 n\
frac1xsqrt n & text if frac 1 n< x< 1.
endcases
endeqnarray*
From this formula we see that $lim_ntoinftyTf_n(x)to 0$ pointwise for all $0< x< 1$. Therefore, if there were some $L^2$-convergent subsequence of $Tf_n$, say $(Tf_n_k)_k = 1^infty$, then we must have $Tf_n_kto0$ in $L^2([0, 1])$. However, the following computation shows that no member of the sequence $(Tf_n)_n = 1^infty$ can get anywhere near its potential subsequential limit. For every $ngeq 1$,
begineqnarray*
|Tf_n|_L^2([0, 1])^2
& = & int_0^1/n(sqrt n)^2; rm dx + int_1/n^1left(frac 1xsqrt nright)^2; rm dx
\
& = &
1 + frac 1 nint_1/n^1x^-2; rm d x
\
& = &
2 - frac 1 n\
& > &
1.
endeqnarray*






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    Another approach using the same sequence $f_n = sqrtnchi_[0, 1/n]$.



    Here it is shown that $(f_n)_n$ converges to $0$ weakly:



    • $|f_n|_2 = 1, forall ninmathbbN$ so $(f_n)_n$ is bounded


    • for $g in L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ we have
      $$|langle f_n, grangle| le | g |_infty cdot sqrtn int_0^1/n! dx = fracsqrtn to 0$$
      and $L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ is dense in $L^2[0,1]$.


    If $T$ were compact, it would map weakly convergent sequences to strongly convergent sequences so we would have $Tf_n to 0$ strongly.



    But $|Tf_n|_2 = sqrt2-frac1n$ which doesn't converge to $0$.






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      For $f_n(x) = sqrt n chi_(0, frac 1 n](x)$ we have
      begineqnarray*
      Tf_n(x)
      & = &
      frac 1 x int_0^xsqrt nchi_(0, frac 1 n](y); rm d y\
      & = &
      begincases
      sqrt n & text if 0< x leq frac 1 n\
      frac1xsqrt n & text if frac 1 n< x< 1.
      endcases
      endeqnarray*
      From this formula we see that $lim_ntoinftyTf_n(x)to 0$ pointwise for all $0< x< 1$. Therefore, if there were some $L^2$-convergent subsequence of $Tf_n$, say $(Tf_n_k)_k = 1^infty$, then we must have $Tf_n_kto0$ in $L^2([0, 1])$. However, the following computation shows that no member of the sequence $(Tf_n)_n = 1^infty$ can get anywhere near its potential subsequential limit. For every $ngeq 1$,
      begineqnarray*
      |Tf_n|_L^2([0, 1])^2
      & = & int_0^1/n(sqrt n)^2; rm dx + int_1/n^1left(frac 1xsqrt nright)^2; rm dx
      \
      & = &
      1 + frac 1 nint_1/n^1x^-2; rm d x
      \
      & = &
      2 - frac 1 n\
      & > &
      1.
      endeqnarray*






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        For $f_n(x) = sqrt n chi_(0, frac 1 n](x)$ we have
        begineqnarray*
        Tf_n(x)
        & = &
        frac 1 x int_0^xsqrt nchi_(0, frac 1 n](y); rm d y\
        & = &
        begincases
        sqrt n & text if 0< x leq frac 1 n\
        frac1xsqrt n & text if frac 1 n< x< 1.
        endcases
        endeqnarray*
        From this formula we see that $lim_ntoinftyTf_n(x)to 0$ pointwise for all $0< x< 1$. Therefore, if there were some $L^2$-convergent subsequence of $Tf_n$, say $(Tf_n_k)_k = 1^infty$, then we must have $Tf_n_kto0$ in $L^2([0, 1])$. However, the following computation shows that no member of the sequence $(Tf_n)_n = 1^infty$ can get anywhere near its potential subsequential limit. For every $ngeq 1$,
        begineqnarray*
        |Tf_n|_L^2([0, 1])^2
        & = & int_0^1/n(sqrt n)^2; rm dx + int_1/n^1left(frac 1xsqrt nright)^2; rm dx
        \
        & = &
        1 + frac 1 nint_1/n^1x^-2; rm d x
        \
        & = &
        2 - frac 1 n\
        & > &
        1.
        endeqnarray*






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          For $f_n(x) = sqrt n chi_(0, frac 1 n](x)$ we have
          begineqnarray*
          Tf_n(x)
          & = &
          frac 1 x int_0^xsqrt nchi_(0, frac 1 n](y); rm d y\
          & = &
          begincases
          sqrt n & text if 0< x leq frac 1 n\
          frac1xsqrt n & text if frac 1 n< x< 1.
          endcases
          endeqnarray*
          From this formula we see that $lim_ntoinftyTf_n(x)to 0$ pointwise for all $0< x< 1$. Therefore, if there were some $L^2$-convergent subsequence of $Tf_n$, say $(Tf_n_k)_k = 1^infty$, then we must have $Tf_n_kto0$ in $L^2([0, 1])$. However, the following computation shows that no member of the sequence $(Tf_n)_n = 1^infty$ can get anywhere near its potential subsequential limit. For every $ngeq 1$,
          begineqnarray*
          |Tf_n|_L^2([0, 1])^2
          & = & int_0^1/n(sqrt n)^2; rm dx + int_1/n^1left(frac 1xsqrt nright)^2; rm dx
          \
          & = &
          1 + frac 1 nint_1/n^1x^-2; rm d x
          \
          & = &
          2 - frac 1 n\
          & > &
          1.
          endeqnarray*






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          For $f_n(x) = sqrt n chi_(0, frac 1 n](x)$ we have
          begineqnarray*
          Tf_n(x)
          & = &
          frac 1 x int_0^xsqrt nchi_(0, frac 1 n](y); rm d y\
          & = &
          begincases
          sqrt n & text if 0< x leq frac 1 n\
          frac1xsqrt n & text if frac 1 n< x< 1.
          endcases
          endeqnarray*
          From this formula we see that $lim_ntoinftyTf_n(x)to 0$ pointwise for all $0< x< 1$. Therefore, if there were some $L^2$-convergent subsequence of $Tf_n$, say $(Tf_n_k)_k = 1^infty$, then we must have $Tf_n_kto0$ in $L^2([0, 1])$. However, the following computation shows that no member of the sequence $(Tf_n)_n = 1^infty$ can get anywhere near its potential subsequential limit. For every $ngeq 1$,
          begineqnarray*
          |Tf_n|_L^2([0, 1])^2
          & = & int_0^1/n(sqrt n)^2; rm dx + int_1/n^1left(frac 1xsqrt nright)^2; rm dx
          \
          & = &
          1 + frac 1 nint_1/n^1x^-2; rm d x
          \
          & = &
          2 - frac 1 n\
          & > &
          1.
          endeqnarray*







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              Another approach using the same sequence $f_n = sqrtnchi_[0, 1/n]$.



              Here it is shown that $(f_n)_n$ converges to $0$ weakly:



              • $|f_n|_2 = 1, forall ninmathbbN$ so $(f_n)_n$ is bounded


              • for $g in L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ we have
                $$|langle f_n, grangle| le | g |_infty cdot sqrtn int_0^1/n! dx = fracsqrtn to 0$$
                and $L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ is dense in $L^2[0,1]$.


              If $T$ were compact, it would map weakly convergent sequences to strongly convergent sequences so we would have $Tf_n to 0$ strongly.



              But $|Tf_n|_2 = sqrt2-frac1n$ which doesn't converge to $0$.






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                Another approach using the same sequence $f_n = sqrtnchi_[0, 1/n]$.



                Here it is shown that $(f_n)_n$ converges to $0$ weakly:



                • $|f_n|_2 = 1, forall ninmathbbN$ so $(f_n)_n$ is bounded


                • for $g in L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ we have
                  $$|langle f_n, grangle| le | g |_infty cdot sqrtn int_0^1/n! dx = fracsqrtn to 0$$
                  and $L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ is dense in $L^2[0,1]$.


                If $T$ were compact, it would map weakly convergent sequences to strongly convergent sequences so we would have $Tf_n to 0$ strongly.



                But $|Tf_n|_2 = sqrt2-frac1n$ which doesn't converge to $0$.






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                  Another approach using the same sequence $f_n = sqrtnchi_[0, 1/n]$.



                  Here it is shown that $(f_n)_n$ converges to $0$ weakly:



                  • $|f_n|_2 = 1, forall ninmathbbN$ so $(f_n)_n$ is bounded


                  • for $g in L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ we have
                    $$|langle f_n, grangle| le | g |_infty cdot sqrtn int_0^1/n! dx = fracsqrtn to 0$$
                    and $L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ is dense in $L^2[0,1]$.


                  If $T$ were compact, it would map weakly convergent sequences to strongly convergent sequences so we would have $Tf_n to 0$ strongly.



                  But $|Tf_n|_2 = sqrt2-frac1n$ which doesn't converge to $0$.






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                  Another approach using the same sequence $f_n = sqrtnchi_[0, 1/n]$.



                  Here it is shown that $(f_n)_n$ converges to $0$ weakly:



                  • $|f_n|_2 = 1, forall ninmathbbN$ so $(f_n)_n$ is bounded


                  • for $g in L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ we have
                    $$|langle f_n, grangle| le | g |_infty cdot sqrtn int_0^1/n! dx = fracsqrtn to 0$$
                    and $L^infty[0,1] cap L^2[0,1]$ is dense in $L^2[0,1]$.


                  If $T$ were compact, it would map weakly convergent sequences to strongly convergent sequences so we would have $Tf_n to 0$ strongly.



                  But $|Tf_n|_2 = sqrt2-frac1n$ which doesn't converge to $0$.







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