Hessian matrix vs differential 2-form

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Could someone clarify the convention that the second derivative of a scalar function $f: Bbb R^n rightarrow Bbb R$ is sometimes defined as a linear operator $D^2f : Bbb R^n rightarrow L(Bbb R^n, L(Bbb R^n, Bbb R))$, which is also identified with the Hessian matrix (filled with second order partial derivatives), and sometimes as a differential 2-form?



It seems that both happens in vector calculus.



Is the definition of derivative just context dependent, and the first example is just a case of "standard derivative" and the second one of the "exterior derivative"?



Or am I really confused about something?







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    The second derivative is definitely not a differential $2$-form. Applying the exterior derivative twice gives zero.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 31 at 21:11










  • Not necessarily, if the form isn't $C^2$. So, the difference is that it's simply a completely different operation?
    – Leon Staresinic
    Aug 1 at 8:36















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Could someone clarify the convention that the second derivative of a scalar function $f: Bbb R^n rightarrow Bbb R$ is sometimes defined as a linear operator $D^2f : Bbb R^n rightarrow L(Bbb R^n, L(Bbb R^n, Bbb R))$, which is also identified with the Hessian matrix (filled with second order partial derivatives), and sometimes as a differential 2-form?



It seems that both happens in vector calculus.



Is the definition of derivative just context dependent, and the first example is just a case of "standard derivative" and the second one of the "exterior derivative"?



Or am I really confused about something?







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    The second derivative is definitely not a differential $2$-form. Applying the exterior derivative twice gives zero.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 31 at 21:11










  • Not necessarily, if the form isn't $C^2$. So, the difference is that it's simply a completely different operation?
    – Leon Staresinic
    Aug 1 at 8:36













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Could someone clarify the convention that the second derivative of a scalar function $f: Bbb R^n rightarrow Bbb R$ is sometimes defined as a linear operator $D^2f : Bbb R^n rightarrow L(Bbb R^n, L(Bbb R^n, Bbb R))$, which is also identified with the Hessian matrix (filled with second order partial derivatives), and sometimes as a differential 2-form?



It seems that both happens in vector calculus.



Is the definition of derivative just context dependent, and the first example is just a case of "standard derivative" and the second one of the "exterior derivative"?



Or am I really confused about something?







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Could someone clarify the convention that the second derivative of a scalar function $f: Bbb R^n rightarrow Bbb R$ is sometimes defined as a linear operator $D^2f : Bbb R^n rightarrow L(Bbb R^n, L(Bbb R^n, Bbb R))$, which is also identified with the Hessian matrix (filled with second order partial derivatives), and sometimes as a differential 2-form?



It seems that both happens in vector calculus.



Is the definition of derivative just context dependent, and the first example is just a case of "standard derivative" and the second one of the "exterior derivative"?



Or am I really confused about something?









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    The second derivative is definitely not a differential $2$-form. Applying the exterior derivative twice gives zero.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 31 at 21:11










  • Not necessarily, if the form isn't $C^2$. So, the difference is that it's simply a completely different operation?
    – Leon Staresinic
    Aug 1 at 8:36













  • 1




    The second derivative is definitely not a differential $2$-form. Applying the exterior derivative twice gives zero.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 31 at 21:11










  • Not necessarily, if the form isn't $C^2$. So, the difference is that it's simply a completely different operation?
    – Leon Staresinic
    Aug 1 at 8:36








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The second derivative is definitely not a differential $2$-form. Applying the exterior derivative twice gives zero.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Jul 31 at 21:11




The second derivative is definitely not a differential $2$-form. Applying the exterior derivative twice gives zero.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Jul 31 at 21:11












Not necessarily, if the form isn't $C^2$. So, the difference is that it's simply a completely different operation?
– Leon Staresinic
Aug 1 at 8:36





Not necessarily, if the form isn't $C^2$. So, the difference is that it's simply a completely different operation?
– Leon Staresinic
Aug 1 at 8:36
















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