Inequality involving sum of exponentials
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Let
$lambda = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t_0sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0,,$
with $lambda_n$, $B_n$, $t_0$ positive real numbers.
Does the following always hold for $t_1 > t_0$
$fracsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_1sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0 ge
frace^-lambda t_1e^-lambda t_0,?
$
[Edit: inequality sign corrected from '<' to $ge$ after Kavi Rama Murthy's answer and random's comment.]
inequality exponential-function
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Let
$lambda = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t_0sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0,,$
with $lambda_n$, $B_n$, $t_0$ positive real numbers.
Does the following always hold for $t_1 > t_0$
$fracsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_1sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0 ge
frace^-lambda t_1e^-lambda t_0,?
$
[Edit: inequality sign corrected from '<' to $ge$ after Kavi Rama Murthy's answer and random's comment.]
inequality exponential-function
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With all $lambda_n$ equal and $Sigma B_n$ convergent there is equality.
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Let
$lambda = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t_0sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0,,$
with $lambda_n$, $B_n$, $t_0$ positive real numbers.
Does the following always hold for $t_1 > t_0$
$fracsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_1sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0 ge
frace^-lambda t_1e^-lambda t_0,?
$
[Edit: inequality sign corrected from '<' to $ge$ after Kavi Rama Murthy's answer and random's comment.]
inequality exponential-function
Let
$lambda = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t_0sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0,,$
with $lambda_n$, $B_n$, $t_0$ positive real numbers.
Does the following always hold for $t_1 > t_0$
$fracsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_1sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t_0 ge
frace^-lambda t_1e^-lambda t_0,?
$
[Edit: inequality sign corrected from '<' to $ge$ after Kavi Rama Murthy's answer and random's comment.]
inequality exponential-function
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With all $lambda_n$ equal and $Sigma B_n$ convergent there is equality.
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With all $lambda_n$ equal and $Sigma B_n$ convergent there is equality.
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Aug 2 at 12:07
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With all $lambda_n$ equal and $Sigma B_n$ convergent there is equality.
â random
Aug 2 at 12:07
With all $lambda_n$ equal and $Sigma B_n$ convergent there is equality.
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Yes, let $f(t)=sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t$ and note that $sumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t=-sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)$.
The problem statement implies that both series converge for $t=t_0$ and therefore uniformly converge for $tge t_0$, so $sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)=frac ddtsumlimits_n=1^infty (B_n e^-lambda_n t)$ and one has $$lambda(t) = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n tsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t=-fracd log fdt$$
The expression for $lambda(t)$ can also be interpreted as a weighted arithmetic mean of the individual $lambda_n$ and since with growing $t$ the normalized weights for smaller $lambda_n$ increase at the expense of those of larger $lambda_n$, $lambda$ must be a non-increasing function of $t$.
By the mean value theorem there is a $t_i in (t_0,t)$ for which $log f(t)-log f(t_0)=-lambda(t_i)(t-t_0)ge -lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$, which is equivalent with $fracf(t)f(t_0)ge e^-lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$.
I found it brilliant! Thank you.
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You cannot have such an inequality. RHS $<1$. If such an inequality holds for all choices of $B_n$'s we can get $1$ as a limting value of LHS leading to a contradiction. For example you can let $B_n$ and $lambda_n$ approach $0$ for all $n>1$, $lambda_1=1$ and $B_1$ approach $infty$.
Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
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Yes, let $f(t)=sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t$ and note that $sumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t=-sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)$.
The problem statement implies that both series converge for $t=t_0$ and therefore uniformly converge for $tge t_0$, so $sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)=frac ddtsumlimits_n=1^infty (B_n e^-lambda_n t)$ and one has $$lambda(t) = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n tsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t=-fracd log fdt$$
The expression for $lambda(t)$ can also be interpreted as a weighted arithmetic mean of the individual $lambda_n$ and since with growing $t$ the normalized weights for smaller $lambda_n$ increase at the expense of those of larger $lambda_n$, $lambda$ must be a non-increasing function of $t$.
By the mean value theorem there is a $t_i in (t_0,t)$ for which $log f(t)-log f(t_0)=-lambda(t_i)(t-t_0)ge -lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$, which is equivalent with $fracf(t)f(t_0)ge e^-lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$.
I found it brilliant! Thank you.
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Aug 3 at 18:34
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Yes, let $f(t)=sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t$ and note that $sumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t=-sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)$.
The problem statement implies that both series converge for $t=t_0$ and therefore uniformly converge for $tge t_0$, so $sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)=frac ddtsumlimits_n=1^infty (B_n e^-lambda_n t)$ and one has $$lambda(t) = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n tsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t=-fracd log fdt$$
The expression for $lambda(t)$ can also be interpreted as a weighted arithmetic mean of the individual $lambda_n$ and since with growing $t$ the normalized weights for smaller $lambda_n$ increase at the expense of those of larger $lambda_n$, $lambda$ must be a non-increasing function of $t$.
By the mean value theorem there is a $t_i in (t_0,t)$ for which $log f(t)-log f(t_0)=-lambda(t_i)(t-t_0)ge -lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$, which is equivalent with $fracf(t)f(t_0)ge e^-lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$.
I found it brilliant! Thank you.
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Aug 3 at 18:34
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Yes, let $f(t)=sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t$ and note that $sumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t=-sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)$.
The problem statement implies that both series converge for $t=t_0$ and therefore uniformly converge for $tge t_0$, so $sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)=frac ddtsumlimits_n=1^infty (B_n e^-lambda_n t)$ and one has $$lambda(t) = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n tsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t=-fracd log fdt$$
The expression for $lambda(t)$ can also be interpreted as a weighted arithmetic mean of the individual $lambda_n$ and since with growing $t$ the normalized weights for smaller $lambda_n$ increase at the expense of those of larger $lambda_n$, $lambda$ must be a non-increasing function of $t$.
By the mean value theorem there is a $t_i in (t_0,t)$ for which $log f(t)-log f(t_0)=-lambda(t_i)(t-t_0)ge -lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$, which is equivalent with $fracf(t)f(t_0)ge e^-lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$.
Yes, let $f(t)=sumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t$ and note that $sumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n t=-sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)$.
The problem statement implies that both series converge for $t=t_0$ and therefore uniformly converge for $tge t_0$, so $sumlimits_n=1^infty frac ddt(B_n e^-lambda_n t)=frac ddtsumlimits_n=1^infty (B_n e^-lambda_n t)$ and one has $$lambda(t) = fracsumlimits_n=1^infty lambda_n B_n e^-lambda_n tsumlimits_n=1^infty B_n e^-lambda_n t=-fracd log fdt$$
The expression for $lambda(t)$ can also be interpreted as a weighted arithmetic mean of the individual $lambda_n$ and since with growing $t$ the normalized weights for smaller $lambda_n$ increase at the expense of those of larger $lambda_n$, $lambda$ must be a non-increasing function of $t$.
By the mean value theorem there is a $t_i in (t_0,t)$ for which $log f(t)-log f(t_0)=-lambda(t_i)(t-t_0)ge -lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$, which is equivalent with $fracf(t)f(t_0)ge e^-lambda(t_0)(t-t_0)$.
answered Aug 3 at 13:44
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I found it brilliant! Thank you.
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I found it brilliant! Thank you.
â toliveira
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I found it brilliant! Thank you.
â toliveira
Aug 3 at 18:34
I found it brilliant! Thank you.
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You cannot have such an inequality. RHS $<1$. If such an inequality holds for all choices of $B_n$'s we can get $1$ as a limting value of LHS leading to a contradiction. For example you can let $B_n$ and $lambda_n$ approach $0$ for all $n>1$, $lambda_1=1$ and $B_1$ approach $infty$.
Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
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Aug 2 at 10:36
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You cannot have such an inequality. RHS $<1$. If such an inequality holds for all choices of $B_n$'s we can get $1$ as a limting value of LHS leading to a contradiction. For example you can let $B_n$ and $lambda_n$ approach $0$ for all $n>1$, $lambda_1=1$ and $B_1$ approach $infty$.
Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
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Aug 2 at 10:36
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You cannot have such an inequality. RHS $<1$. If such an inequality holds for all choices of $B_n$'s we can get $1$ as a limting value of LHS leading to a contradiction. For example you can let $B_n$ and $lambda_n$ approach $0$ for all $n>1$, $lambda_1=1$ and $B_1$ approach $infty$.
You cannot have such an inequality. RHS $<1$. If such an inequality holds for all choices of $B_n$'s we can get $1$ as a limting value of LHS leading to a contradiction. For example you can let $B_n$ and $lambda_n$ approach $0$ for all $n>1$, $lambda_1=1$ and $B_1$ approach $infty$.
answered Aug 2 at 10:22
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Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
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Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
â toliveira
Aug 2 at 10:36
Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
â toliveira
Aug 2 at 10:36
Thank you very much for pointing it out. I corrected the inequality sign so that the question now makes more sense.
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With all $lambda_n$ equal and $Sigma B_n$ convergent there is equality.
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Aug 2 at 12:07