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Let $alpha, beta, gamma in (0, 1)$ such that $alpha < beta, gamma < beta$. Let $d in mathbbN, d geq 4$.



I am interested in bounding from below the spectral radius $rho(K)$ of the following matrix $K$ of size $d$ (or even better determining it analytically).



$$K = beginpmatrix
sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & cdots & cdots & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 \
fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & eta & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 \
fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & eta & ddots & vdots \
vdots & vdots & ddots & ddots & fracbetad-2\
fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 & eta \
endpmatrix$$



where $eta = sqrtleft(1 - beta - fracalphad-1right)left((1 - beta - fracgammad-1right)$



Notice, as it can only help, that $K$ is symmetric, and has strictly positive entries. So far, have only been able to say that the spectral radius lies (up to reordering of the bounds) in



$$left[ sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) + sqrtalphagamma; fracsqrtalpha gammad-1+ eta + beta right]$$



since by positivity $rho(K)$ stands in between the minimum and maximum row sums.



Numerically, though, it seems that I have the following dependency $rho(K) = 1 - Oleft( fracf(alpha, gamma)d right)$, and this sort of dependency in $d$ is my goal, but I am a little bit short on tools to confirm it.







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    Let $alpha, beta, gamma in (0, 1)$ such that $alpha < beta, gamma < beta$. Let $d in mathbbN, d geq 4$.



    I am interested in bounding from below the spectral radius $rho(K)$ of the following matrix $K$ of size $d$ (or even better determining it analytically).



    $$K = beginpmatrix
    sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & cdots & cdots & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 \
    fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & eta & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 \
    fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & eta & ddots & vdots \
    vdots & vdots & ddots & ddots & fracbetad-2\
    fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 & eta \
    endpmatrix$$



    where $eta = sqrtleft(1 - beta - fracalphad-1right)left((1 - beta - fracgammad-1right)$



    Notice, as it can only help, that $K$ is symmetric, and has strictly positive entries. So far, have only been able to say that the spectral radius lies (up to reordering of the bounds) in



    $$left[ sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) + sqrtalphagamma; fracsqrtalpha gammad-1+ eta + beta right]$$



    since by positivity $rho(K)$ stands in between the minimum and maximum row sums.



    Numerically, though, it seems that I have the following dependency $rho(K) = 1 - Oleft( fracf(alpha, gamma)d right)$, and this sort of dependency in $d$ is my goal, but I am a little bit short on tools to confirm it.







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      Let $alpha, beta, gamma in (0, 1)$ such that $alpha < beta, gamma < beta$. Let $d in mathbbN, d geq 4$.



      I am interested in bounding from below the spectral radius $rho(K)$ of the following matrix $K$ of size $d$ (or even better determining it analytically).



      $$K = beginpmatrix
      sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & cdots & cdots & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 \
      fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & eta & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 \
      fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & eta & ddots & vdots \
      vdots & vdots & ddots & ddots & fracbetad-2\
      fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 & eta \
      endpmatrix$$



      where $eta = sqrtleft(1 - beta - fracalphad-1right)left((1 - beta - fracgammad-1right)$



      Notice, as it can only help, that $K$ is symmetric, and has strictly positive entries. So far, have only been able to say that the spectral radius lies (up to reordering of the bounds) in



      $$left[ sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) + sqrtalphagamma; fracsqrtalpha gammad-1+ eta + beta right]$$



      since by positivity $rho(K)$ stands in between the minimum and maximum row sums.



      Numerically, though, it seems that I have the following dependency $rho(K) = 1 - Oleft( fracf(alpha, gamma)d right)$, and this sort of dependency in $d$ is my goal, but I am a little bit short on tools to confirm it.







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      Let $alpha, beta, gamma in (0, 1)$ such that $alpha < beta, gamma < beta$. Let $d in mathbbN, d geq 4$.



      I am interested in bounding from below the spectral radius $rho(K)$ of the following matrix $K$ of size $d$ (or even better determining it analytically).



      $$K = beginpmatrix
      sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & cdots & cdots & fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 \
      fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & eta & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 \
      fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & eta & ddots & vdots \
      vdots & vdots & ddots & ddots & fracbetad-2\
      fracsqrtalpha gammad-1 & fracbetad-2 & cdots & fracbetad-2 & eta \
      endpmatrix$$



      where $eta = sqrtleft(1 - beta - fracalphad-1right)left((1 - beta - fracgammad-1right)$



      Notice, as it can only help, that $K$ is symmetric, and has strictly positive entries. So far, have only been able to say that the spectral radius lies (up to reordering of the bounds) in



      $$left[ sqrt(1 - alpha)(1 - gamma) + sqrtalphagamma; fracsqrtalpha gammad-1+ eta + beta right]$$



      since by positivity $rho(K)$ stands in between the minimum and maximum row sums.



      Numerically, though, it seems that I have the following dependency $rho(K) = 1 - Oleft( fracf(alpha, gamma)d right)$, and this sort of dependency in $d$ is my goal, but I am a little bit short on tools to confirm it.









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          Let $u=(1,0,ldots,0)^T, v=frac1sqrtd-1(0,1,ldots,1)^T, p=fracsqrtalphagammad-1, q=fracbetad-2$ and $r=sqrt(1-alpha)(1-gamma)$. Then
          $$
          K=(r-eta+q)uu^T+sqrtd-1,p(uv^T+vu^T)+(d-1)qvv^T+(eta-q)I.
          $$
          So, $K-(eta-q)I$ has rank $le2$ and its restriction on $operatornamespanu,v$ has a matrix representation
          $$
          A=pmatrixr-eta+q&sqrtd-1,p\ sqrtd-1,p&(d-1)q.
          $$
          When $d$ is large, $eta-q>0$ and $A$ is entrywise positive. Hence
          beginalign
          rho(K)
          &=eta-q+rho(A)\
          &=eta-q+
          frac(r-eta+dq)+sqrtleft[r-eta-(d-2)qright]^2+4(d-1)p^22\
          &=frac(r+eta+beta)+sqrt(r-eta-beta)^2+frac4alphagammad-12\
          endalign
          and it is up to you to find an asymptotic bound for it.






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          • After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
            – ippiki-ookami
            yesterday






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            @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
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          Let $u=(1,0,ldots,0)^T, v=frac1sqrtd-1(0,1,ldots,1)^T, p=fracsqrtalphagammad-1, q=fracbetad-2$ and $r=sqrt(1-alpha)(1-gamma)$. Then
          $$
          K=(r-eta+q)uu^T+sqrtd-1,p(uv^T+vu^T)+(d-1)qvv^T+(eta-q)I.
          $$
          So, $K-(eta-q)I$ has rank $le2$ and its restriction on $operatornamespanu,v$ has a matrix representation
          $$
          A=pmatrixr-eta+q&sqrtd-1,p\ sqrtd-1,p&(d-1)q.
          $$
          When $d$ is large, $eta-q>0$ and $A$ is entrywise positive. Hence
          beginalign
          rho(K)
          &=eta-q+rho(A)\
          &=eta-q+
          frac(r-eta+dq)+sqrtleft[r-eta-(d-2)qright]^2+4(d-1)p^22\
          &=frac(r+eta+beta)+sqrt(r-eta-beta)^2+frac4alphagammad-12\
          endalign
          and it is up to you to find an asymptotic bound for it.






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          • After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
            – ippiki-ookami
            yesterday






          • 1




            @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
            – user1551
            yesterday














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          Let $u=(1,0,ldots,0)^T, v=frac1sqrtd-1(0,1,ldots,1)^T, p=fracsqrtalphagammad-1, q=fracbetad-2$ and $r=sqrt(1-alpha)(1-gamma)$. Then
          $$
          K=(r-eta+q)uu^T+sqrtd-1,p(uv^T+vu^T)+(d-1)qvv^T+(eta-q)I.
          $$
          So, $K-(eta-q)I$ has rank $le2$ and its restriction on $operatornamespanu,v$ has a matrix representation
          $$
          A=pmatrixr-eta+q&sqrtd-1,p\ sqrtd-1,p&(d-1)q.
          $$
          When $d$ is large, $eta-q>0$ and $A$ is entrywise positive. Hence
          beginalign
          rho(K)
          &=eta-q+rho(A)\
          &=eta-q+
          frac(r-eta+dq)+sqrtleft[r-eta-(d-2)qright]^2+4(d-1)p^22\
          &=frac(r+eta+beta)+sqrt(r-eta-beta)^2+frac4alphagammad-12\
          endalign
          and it is up to you to find an asymptotic bound for it.






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          • After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
            – ippiki-ookami
            yesterday






          • 1




            @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
            – user1551
            yesterday












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          Let $u=(1,0,ldots,0)^T, v=frac1sqrtd-1(0,1,ldots,1)^T, p=fracsqrtalphagammad-1, q=fracbetad-2$ and $r=sqrt(1-alpha)(1-gamma)$. Then
          $$
          K=(r-eta+q)uu^T+sqrtd-1,p(uv^T+vu^T)+(d-1)qvv^T+(eta-q)I.
          $$
          So, $K-(eta-q)I$ has rank $le2$ and its restriction on $operatornamespanu,v$ has a matrix representation
          $$
          A=pmatrixr-eta+q&sqrtd-1,p\ sqrtd-1,p&(d-1)q.
          $$
          When $d$ is large, $eta-q>0$ and $A$ is entrywise positive. Hence
          beginalign
          rho(K)
          &=eta-q+rho(A)\
          &=eta-q+
          frac(r-eta+dq)+sqrtleft[r-eta-(d-2)qright]^2+4(d-1)p^22\
          &=frac(r+eta+beta)+sqrt(r-eta-beta)^2+frac4alphagammad-12\
          endalign
          and it is up to you to find an asymptotic bound for it.






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          Let $u=(1,0,ldots,0)^T, v=frac1sqrtd-1(0,1,ldots,1)^T, p=fracsqrtalphagammad-1, q=fracbetad-2$ and $r=sqrt(1-alpha)(1-gamma)$. Then
          $$
          K=(r-eta+q)uu^T+sqrtd-1,p(uv^T+vu^T)+(d-1)qvv^T+(eta-q)I.
          $$
          So, $K-(eta-q)I$ has rank $le2$ and its restriction on $operatornamespanu,v$ has a matrix representation
          $$
          A=pmatrixr-eta+q&sqrtd-1,p\ sqrtd-1,p&(d-1)q.
          $$
          When $d$ is large, $eta-q>0$ and $A$ is entrywise positive. Hence
          beginalign
          rho(K)
          &=eta-q+rho(A)\
          &=eta-q+
          frac(r-eta+dq)+sqrtleft[r-eta-(d-2)qright]^2+4(d-1)p^22\
          &=frac(r+eta+beta)+sqrt(r-eta-beta)^2+frac4alphagammad-12\
          endalign
          and it is up to you to find an asymptotic bound for it.







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          • After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
            – ippiki-ookami
            yesterday






          • 1




            @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
            – user1551
            yesterday
















          • After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
            – ippiki-ookami
            yesterday






          • 1




            @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
            – user1551
            yesterday















          After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
          – ippiki-ookami
          yesterday




          After computation from your expression, an interesting lower bound then turns out to be $1 - fracalpha + gammad-1$. The steps are clear to me except how you determine the rank of $K$. If I manage to express a matrix using a sum of products of $k$ vectors, I get a $k$-rank matrix ? Does this arise directly from the definition of the rank ?
          – ippiki-ookami
          yesterday




          1




          1




          @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
          – user1551
          yesterday




          @ippiki-ookami I should write "rank $le2$" instead. Of course, the rank of the sum of $k$ rank-1 matrices is at most $k$, but strict inequality may hold.
          – user1551
          yesterday












           

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