Name for this condition: $forallepsilon > 0:quad P(exists mge n: |X_m - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty$

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A sequence of random variables $X_n$ converges in probability to a random variable $X$ if
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(|X_n - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag1$$



Note that the following condition is stronger:
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(exists mge n: |X_m - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$$



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  • Maybe you mean something like $forallepsilon > 0:quad Pleft(suplimits_ m> n |X_m - X|geq epsilonright)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$
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A sequence of random variables $X_n$ converges in probability to a random variable $X$ if
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(|X_n - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag1$$



Note that the following condition is stronger:
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(exists mge n: |X_m - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$$



Question: Is there a name for condition $(2)$?







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  • Maybe you mean something like $forallepsilon > 0:quad Pleft(suplimits_ m> n |X_m - X|geq epsilonright)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$
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A sequence of random variables $X_n$ converges in probability to a random variable $X$ if
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(|X_n - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag1$$



Note that the following condition is stronger:
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(exists mge n: |X_m - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$$



Question: Is there a name for condition $(2)$?







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A sequence of random variables $X_n$ converges in probability to a random variable $X$ if
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(|X_n - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag1$$



Note that the following condition is stronger:
$$forallepsilon > 0:quad P(exists mge n: |X_m - X|>epsilon)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$$



Question: Is there a name for condition $(2)$?









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  • Maybe you mean something like $forallepsilon > 0:quad Pleft(suplimits_ m> n |X_m - X|geq epsilonright)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$
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  • Maybe you mean something like $forallepsilon > 0:quad Pleft(suplimits_ m> n |X_m - X|geq epsilonright)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$
    – callculus
    Aug 3 at 17:39















Maybe you mean something like $forallepsilon > 0:quad Pleft(suplimits_ m> n |X_m - X|geq epsilonright)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$
– callculus
Aug 3 at 17:39




Maybe you mean something like $forallepsilon > 0:quad Pleft(suplimits_ m> n |X_m - X|geq epsilonright)to 0,quad ntoinfty. tag2$
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Condition (2) is equivalent to $$tag*S_n:=sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0mbox in probability,$$ which is equivalent to $X_nto X$ almost surely. Indeed, if $X_nto X$ almost surely, then $sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0$ almost surely hence in probability. Conversely, the sequence of non-negative random variables $left(S_nright)_ngeqslant 1$ is non-increasing and has a subsequence which converges to $0$ almost surely hence it converges to $0$ almost surely.






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    I don't know if there is a special name for the set you mentioned, but it can however be put in context within a measure-theoretic framework, as follows.



    If we denote by $A_n(varepsilon)$ the event $$, then the event $X_n-X$ is just the
    union of events
    $$B_n(varepsilon)=bigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon).$$
    Obviously the sequence $B_n$ decreases, in the sense that $B_n+1subset B_n$ for all $n$. Elementary measure theory tells us that
    $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=Pleft(bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)right)$$
    but
    $$bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)=bigcap_n=1^inftybigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon)=overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon)$$
    where here we use directly the definition of an upper limit of a sequence of measurable sets. So we obtain the relation:
    $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))$$
    which quantifies precisely the connection between your sets and the original ones, and shows why the condition is indeed stronger in general, because we always have
    $$P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))geqoverlinelim_ntoinftyP(A_n(varepsilon)$$






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      Condition (2) is equivalent to $$tag*S_n:=sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0mbox in probability,$$ which is equivalent to $X_nto X$ almost surely. Indeed, if $X_nto X$ almost surely, then $sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0$ almost surely hence in probability. Conversely, the sequence of non-negative random variables $left(S_nright)_ngeqslant 1$ is non-increasing and has a subsequence which converges to $0$ almost surely hence it converges to $0$ almost surely.






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        Condition (2) is equivalent to $$tag*S_n:=sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0mbox in probability,$$ which is equivalent to $X_nto X$ almost surely. Indeed, if $X_nto X$ almost surely, then $sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0$ almost surely hence in probability. Conversely, the sequence of non-negative random variables $left(S_nright)_ngeqslant 1$ is non-increasing and has a subsequence which converges to $0$ almost surely hence it converges to $0$ almost surely.






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          Condition (2) is equivalent to $$tag*S_n:=sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0mbox in probability,$$ which is equivalent to $X_nto X$ almost surely. Indeed, if $X_nto X$ almost surely, then $sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0$ almost surely hence in probability. Conversely, the sequence of non-negative random variables $left(S_nright)_ngeqslant 1$ is non-increasing and has a subsequence which converges to $0$ almost surely hence it converges to $0$ almost surely.






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          Condition (2) is equivalent to $$tag*S_n:=sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0mbox in probability,$$ which is equivalent to $X_nto X$ almost surely. Indeed, if $X_nto X$ almost surely, then $sup_mgeqslant nleftlvert X_m-Xrightrvert to 0$ almost surely hence in probability. Conversely, the sequence of non-negative random variables $left(S_nright)_ngeqslant 1$ is non-increasing and has a subsequence which converges to $0$ almost surely hence it converges to $0$ almost surely.







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              I don't know if there is a special name for the set you mentioned, but it can however be put in context within a measure-theoretic framework, as follows.



              If we denote by $A_n(varepsilon)$ the event $$, then the event $X_n-X$ is just the
              union of events
              $$B_n(varepsilon)=bigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon).$$
              Obviously the sequence $B_n$ decreases, in the sense that $B_n+1subset B_n$ for all $n$. Elementary measure theory tells us that
              $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=Pleft(bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)right)$$
              but
              $$bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)=bigcap_n=1^inftybigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon)=overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon)$$
              where here we use directly the definition of an upper limit of a sequence of measurable sets. So we obtain the relation:
              $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))$$
              which quantifies precisely the connection between your sets and the original ones, and shows why the condition is indeed stronger in general, because we always have
              $$P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))geqoverlinelim_ntoinftyP(A_n(varepsilon)$$






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                I don't know if there is a special name for the set you mentioned, but it can however be put in context within a measure-theoretic framework, as follows.



                If we denote by $A_n(varepsilon)$ the event $$, then the event $X_n-X$ is just the
                union of events
                $$B_n(varepsilon)=bigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon).$$
                Obviously the sequence $B_n$ decreases, in the sense that $B_n+1subset B_n$ for all $n$. Elementary measure theory tells us that
                $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=Pleft(bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)right)$$
                but
                $$bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)=bigcap_n=1^inftybigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon)=overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon)$$
                where here we use directly the definition of an upper limit of a sequence of measurable sets. So we obtain the relation:
                $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))$$
                which quantifies precisely the connection between your sets and the original ones, and shows why the condition is indeed stronger in general, because we always have
                $$P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))geqoverlinelim_ntoinftyP(A_n(varepsilon)$$






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                  I don't know if there is a special name for the set you mentioned, but it can however be put in context within a measure-theoretic framework, as follows.



                  If we denote by $A_n(varepsilon)$ the event $$, then the event $X_n-X$ is just the
                  union of events
                  $$B_n(varepsilon)=bigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon).$$
                  Obviously the sequence $B_n$ decreases, in the sense that $B_n+1subset B_n$ for all $n$. Elementary measure theory tells us that
                  $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=Pleft(bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)right)$$
                  but
                  $$bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)=bigcap_n=1^inftybigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon)=overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon)$$
                  where here we use directly the definition of an upper limit of a sequence of measurable sets. So we obtain the relation:
                  $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))$$
                  which quantifies precisely the connection between your sets and the original ones, and shows why the condition is indeed stronger in general, because we always have
                  $$P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))geqoverlinelim_ntoinftyP(A_n(varepsilon)$$






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                  I don't know if there is a special name for the set you mentioned, but it can however be put in context within a measure-theoretic framework, as follows.



                  If we denote by $A_n(varepsilon)$ the event $$, then the event $X_n-X$ is just the
                  union of events
                  $$B_n(varepsilon)=bigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon).$$
                  Obviously the sequence $B_n$ decreases, in the sense that $B_n+1subset B_n$ for all $n$. Elementary measure theory tells us that
                  $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=Pleft(bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)right)$$
                  but
                  $$bigcap_n=1^inftyB_n(varepsilon)=bigcap_n=1^inftybigcup_mgeq nA_m(varepsilon)=overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon)$$
                  where here we use directly the definition of an upper limit of a sequence of measurable sets. So we obtain the relation:
                  $$lim_ntoinftyP(B_n(varepsilon))=P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))$$
                  which quantifies precisely the connection between your sets and the original ones, and shows why the condition is indeed stronger in general, because we always have
                  $$P(overlinelim_ntoinftyA_n(varepsilon))geqoverlinelim_ntoinftyP(A_n(varepsilon)$$







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