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This is a question of munkres topology ch 1 of section axiom of choice and choice function. From help by lattice I understood that how to find it for set of integers. But for set of Rationals, I am not able to find how to define such a function.
QUESTION IS-
Find, if possible a choice function for the collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
Please help me as I don't have help from teachers or fellow classmates.
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I am sorry, if someone were not clear with my question.
Actually I am new to this site.
This is a question of munkres topology ch 1 of section axiom of choice and choice function. From help by lattice I understood that how to find it for set of integers. But for set of Rationals, I am not able to find how to define such a function.
QUESTION IS-
Find, if possible a choice function for the collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
Please help me as I don't have help from teachers or fellow classmates.
axiom-of-choice
closed as off-topic by user223391, Peter, José Carlos Santos, amWhy, Adrian Keister Aug 2 at 14:15
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Please, provide more information about the context of your question.
– Taroccoesbrocco
Aug 2 at 14:02
It is a question from munkres topology section 9 ( axiom of choice. Choice function). It asks on finding a choice function, if possible, for the collection of non empty subsets of integers. Please help me.
– A D
Aug 2 at 14:10
You could set $Amapsto a$ where $a$ is the element of $A$ having the smallest absolute value (possibly there are two such elements, then choose $a$ for instance to be the positive one). The axiom of choice is not needed here since the considered sets are subsets of a space which has enough "structure" to make a choice for an arbitrary set possible. In particular there is some distinguished element $0$ and some relation/order on the set of integers making that choice possible. It seems to me that this question aims to show that the axiom of choice is not always needed.
– lattice
Aug 2 at 14:21
Thank you very much lattice. Can you please tell me in which conditions on set B (whose subcollection we want to take) choice function doesn't exists.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:11
In particular if it exists for collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:13
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I am sorry, if someone were not clear with my question.
Actually I am new to this site.
This is a question of munkres topology ch 1 of section axiom of choice and choice function. From help by lattice I understood that how to find it for set of integers. But for set of Rationals, I am not able to find how to define such a function.
QUESTION IS-
Find, if possible a choice function for the collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
Please help me as I don't have help from teachers or fellow classmates.
axiom-of-choice
I am sorry, if someone were not clear with my question.
Actually I am new to this site.
This is a question of munkres topology ch 1 of section axiom of choice and choice function. From help by lattice I understood that how to find it for set of integers. But for set of Rationals, I am not able to find how to define such a function.
QUESTION IS-
Find, if possible a choice function for the collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
Please help me as I don't have help from teachers or fellow classmates.
axiom-of-choice
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closed as off-topic by user223391, Peter, José Carlos Santos, amWhy, Adrian Keister Aug 2 at 14:15
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Please, provide more information about the context of your question.
– Taroccoesbrocco
Aug 2 at 14:02
It is a question from munkres topology section 9 ( axiom of choice. Choice function). It asks on finding a choice function, if possible, for the collection of non empty subsets of integers. Please help me.
– A D
Aug 2 at 14:10
You could set $Amapsto a$ where $a$ is the element of $A$ having the smallest absolute value (possibly there are two such elements, then choose $a$ for instance to be the positive one). The axiom of choice is not needed here since the considered sets are subsets of a space which has enough "structure" to make a choice for an arbitrary set possible. In particular there is some distinguished element $0$ and some relation/order on the set of integers making that choice possible. It seems to me that this question aims to show that the axiom of choice is not always needed.
– lattice
Aug 2 at 14:21
Thank you very much lattice. Can you please tell me in which conditions on set B (whose subcollection we want to take) choice function doesn't exists.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:11
In particular if it exists for collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:13
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Please, provide more information about the context of your question.
– Taroccoesbrocco
Aug 2 at 14:02
It is a question from munkres topology section 9 ( axiom of choice. Choice function). It asks on finding a choice function, if possible, for the collection of non empty subsets of integers. Please help me.
– A D
Aug 2 at 14:10
You could set $Amapsto a$ where $a$ is the element of $A$ having the smallest absolute value (possibly there are two such elements, then choose $a$ for instance to be the positive one). The axiom of choice is not needed here since the considered sets are subsets of a space which has enough "structure" to make a choice for an arbitrary set possible. In particular there is some distinguished element $0$ and some relation/order on the set of integers making that choice possible. It seems to me that this question aims to show that the axiom of choice is not always needed.
– lattice
Aug 2 at 14:21
Thank you very much lattice. Can you please tell me in which conditions on set B (whose subcollection we want to take) choice function doesn't exists.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:11
In particular if it exists for collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:13
Please, provide more information about the context of your question.
– Taroccoesbrocco
Aug 2 at 14:02
Please, provide more information about the context of your question.
– Taroccoesbrocco
Aug 2 at 14:02
It is a question from munkres topology section 9 ( axiom of choice. Choice function). It asks on finding a choice function, if possible, for the collection of non empty subsets of integers. Please help me.
– A D
Aug 2 at 14:10
It is a question from munkres topology section 9 ( axiom of choice. Choice function). It asks on finding a choice function, if possible, for the collection of non empty subsets of integers. Please help me.
– A D
Aug 2 at 14:10
You could set $Amapsto a$ where $a$ is the element of $A$ having the smallest absolute value (possibly there are two such elements, then choose $a$ for instance to be the positive one). The axiom of choice is not needed here since the considered sets are subsets of a space which has enough "structure" to make a choice for an arbitrary set possible. In particular there is some distinguished element $0$ and some relation/order on the set of integers making that choice possible. It seems to me that this question aims to show that the axiom of choice is not always needed.
– lattice
Aug 2 at 14:21
You could set $Amapsto a$ where $a$ is the element of $A$ having the smallest absolute value (possibly there are two such elements, then choose $a$ for instance to be the positive one). The axiom of choice is not needed here since the considered sets are subsets of a space which has enough "structure" to make a choice for an arbitrary set possible. In particular there is some distinguished element $0$ and some relation/order on the set of integers making that choice possible. It seems to me that this question aims to show that the axiom of choice is not always needed.
– lattice
Aug 2 at 14:21
Thank you very much lattice. Can you please tell me in which conditions on set B (whose subcollection we want to take) choice function doesn't exists.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:11
Thank you very much lattice. Can you please tell me in which conditions on set B (whose subcollection we want to take) choice function doesn't exists.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:11
In particular if it exists for collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:13
In particular if it exists for collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:13
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Please, provide more information about the context of your question.
– Taroccoesbrocco
Aug 2 at 14:02
It is a question from munkres topology section 9 ( axiom of choice. Choice function). It asks on finding a choice function, if possible, for the collection of non empty subsets of integers. Please help me.
– A D
Aug 2 at 14:10
You could set $Amapsto a$ where $a$ is the element of $A$ having the smallest absolute value (possibly there are two such elements, then choose $a$ for instance to be the positive one). The axiom of choice is not needed here since the considered sets are subsets of a space which has enough "structure" to make a choice for an arbitrary set possible. In particular there is some distinguished element $0$ and some relation/order on the set of integers making that choice possible. It seems to me that this question aims to show that the axiom of choice is not always needed.
– lattice
Aug 2 at 14:21
Thank you very much lattice. Can you please tell me in which conditions on set B (whose subcollection we want to take) choice function doesn't exists.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:11
In particular if it exists for collection of nonempty subsets of Rational numbers.
– A D
Aug 2 at 15:13