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Is there a Matrix P, which does:



$$AP=A'$$
$$A=beginbmatrix
a_00 & 0 & 0\
a_10 &a_11 & 0\
a_20 &a_21 & a_22
endbmatrix$$
$$A'=beginbmatrix
a_00 & a_11 & a_22\
a_10 & a_21& 0\
a_20 & 0 & 0
endbmatrix$$







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    How would you solve $AB=C$ for $B$?
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  • For $A$ invertible, i.e. $a_00cdot a_11cdot a_22neq 0$, i.e. for $a_00, a_11, a_22neq 0$, you can solve the equation $AP=A'$ with $A^-1AP=A^-1A'$, i.e. $P=A^-1A'$.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 15:07










  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and $$A^Ntimes N$$?
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:24











  • Try to check the conditions on the matrix $P$ by evaluating the product by hand for the entries in $A'$ this should give you a linear system of equations in variables of $P$ which you then can check for solvability.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 18:50














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Is there a Matrix P, which does:



$$AP=A'$$
$$A=beginbmatrix
a_00 & 0 & 0\
a_10 &a_11 & 0\
a_20 &a_21 & a_22
endbmatrix$$
$$A'=beginbmatrix
a_00 & a_11 & a_22\
a_10 & a_21& 0\
a_20 & 0 & 0
endbmatrix$$







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  • What are your thoughts on the problem?
    – Parcly Taxel
    Jul 25 at 14:57






  • 1




    How would you solve $AB=C$ for $B$?
    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 25 at 15:00










  • For $A$ invertible, i.e. $a_00cdot a_11cdot a_22neq 0$, i.e. for $a_00, a_11, a_22neq 0$, you can solve the equation $AP=A'$ with $A^-1AP=A^-1A'$, i.e. $P=A^-1A'$.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 15:07










  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and $$A^Ntimes N$$?
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:24











  • Try to check the conditions on the matrix $P$ by evaluating the product by hand for the entries in $A'$ this should give you a linear system of equations in variables of $P$ which you then can check for solvability.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 18:50












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Is there a Matrix P, which does:



$$AP=A'$$
$$A=beginbmatrix
a_00 & 0 & 0\
a_10 &a_11 & 0\
a_20 &a_21 & a_22
endbmatrix$$
$$A'=beginbmatrix
a_00 & a_11 & a_22\
a_10 & a_21& 0\
a_20 & 0 & 0
endbmatrix$$







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Is there a Matrix P, which does:



$$AP=A'$$
$$A=beginbmatrix
a_00 & 0 & 0\
a_10 &a_11 & 0\
a_20 &a_21 & a_22
endbmatrix$$
$$A'=beginbmatrix
a_00 & a_11 & a_22\
a_10 & a_21& 0\
a_20 & 0 & 0
endbmatrix$$









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  • What are your thoughts on the problem?
    – Parcly Taxel
    Jul 25 at 14:57






  • 1




    How would you solve $AB=C$ for $B$?
    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 25 at 15:00










  • For $A$ invertible, i.e. $a_00cdot a_11cdot a_22neq 0$, i.e. for $a_00, a_11, a_22neq 0$, you can solve the equation $AP=A'$ with $A^-1AP=A^-1A'$, i.e. $P=A^-1A'$.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 15:07










  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and $$A^Ntimes N$$?
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:24











  • Try to check the conditions on the matrix $P$ by evaluating the product by hand for the entries in $A'$ this should give you a linear system of equations in variables of $P$ which you then can check for solvability.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 18:50
















  • What are your thoughts on the problem?
    – Parcly Taxel
    Jul 25 at 14:57






  • 1




    How would you solve $AB=C$ for $B$?
    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 25 at 15:00










  • For $A$ invertible, i.e. $a_00cdot a_11cdot a_22neq 0$, i.e. for $a_00, a_11, a_22neq 0$, you can solve the equation $AP=A'$ with $A^-1AP=A^-1A'$, i.e. $P=A^-1A'$.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 15:07










  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and $$A^Ntimes N$$?
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:24











  • Try to check the conditions on the matrix $P$ by evaluating the product by hand for the entries in $A'$ this should give you a linear system of equations in variables of $P$ which you then can check for solvability.
    – zzuussee
    Jul 25 at 18:50















What are your thoughts on the problem?
– Parcly Taxel
Jul 25 at 14:57




What are your thoughts on the problem?
– Parcly Taxel
Jul 25 at 14:57




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1




How would you solve $AB=C$ for $B$?
– Ross Millikan
Jul 25 at 15:00




How would you solve $AB=C$ for $B$?
– Ross Millikan
Jul 25 at 15:00












For $A$ invertible, i.e. $a_00cdot a_11cdot a_22neq 0$, i.e. for $a_00, a_11, a_22neq 0$, you can solve the equation $AP=A'$ with $A^-1AP=A^-1A'$, i.e. $P=A^-1A'$.
– zzuussee
Jul 25 at 15:07




For $A$ invertible, i.e. $a_00cdot a_11cdot a_22neq 0$, i.e. for $a_00, a_11, a_22neq 0$, you can solve the equation $AP=A'$ with $A^-1AP=A^-1A'$, i.e. $P=A^-1A'$.
– zzuussee
Jul 25 at 15:07












thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and $$A^Ntimes N$$?
– Bongo1234
Jul 25 at 15:24





thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and $$A^Ntimes N$$?
– Bongo1234
Jul 25 at 15:24













Try to check the conditions on the matrix $P$ by evaluating the product by hand for the entries in $A'$ this should give you a linear system of equations in variables of $P$ which you then can check for solvability.
– zzuussee
Jul 25 at 18:50




Try to check the conditions on the matrix $P$ by evaluating the product by hand for the entries in $A'$ this should give you a linear system of equations in variables of $P$ which you then can check for solvability.
– zzuussee
Jul 25 at 18:50










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Yes of course, given that A is invertible we have



$$AP=A' iff P=A^-1A'$$






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  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:56











  • I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
    – gimusi
    Jul 25 at 17:41










  • There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 26 at 6:17










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Yes of course, given that A is invertible we have



$$AP=A' iff P=A^-1A'$$






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  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:56











  • I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
    – gimusi
    Jul 25 at 17:41










  • There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 26 at 6:17














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Yes of course, given that A is invertible we have



$$AP=A' iff P=A^-1A'$$






share|cite|improve this answer





















  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:56











  • I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
    – gimusi
    Jul 25 at 17:41










  • There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 26 at 6:17












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Yes of course, given that A is invertible we have



$$AP=A' iff P=A^-1A'$$






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Yes of course, given that A is invertible we have



$$AP=A' iff P=A^-1A'$$







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  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:56











  • I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
    – gimusi
    Jul 25 at 17:41










  • There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 26 at 6:17
















  • thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 25 at 15:56











  • I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
    – gimusi
    Jul 25 at 17:41










  • There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
    – Bongo1234
    Jul 26 at 6:17















thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
– Bongo1234
Jul 25 at 15:56





thanks,that's no porblem to solve the equation. Is there a general form/matrix which, sets the diagonals into rows for arbitary numbers and &&A^N times N$$
– Bongo1234
Jul 25 at 15:56













I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 17:41




I don’t understand what exactly you are asking for, could you please explain better?
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 17:41












There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
– Bongo1234
Jul 26 at 6:17




There exist shift matrices and permutation matrices. If such matrix is multiplied to a vector or another matrix it does the same new range to any matrix. Now I want to have such a matrix for my problem above.
– Bongo1234
Jul 26 at 6:17












 

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