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I have derived a geometric series below that I want to simplify but keep making a mess. Can anyone help?
$$s = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + dotsb + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1$$




I get the following, but I know it's wrong



$$s = fracaq^n-1 - (ar^n)/q1 - (r/q)$$







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  • Very happy with the answer and hints below. I'm left wondering why my approach of trying to find rs/q like shown on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series didn't work but that's another question I guess ...
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I have derived a geometric series below that I want to simplify but keep making a mess. Can anyone help?
$$s = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + dotsb + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1$$




I get the following, but I know it's wrong



$$s = fracaq^n-1 - (ar^n)/q1 - (r/q)$$







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  • Very happy with the answer and hints below. I'm left wondering why my approach of trying to find rs/q like shown on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series didn't work but that's another question I guess ...
    – user1753106
    Jul 26 at 22:54












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I have derived a geometric series below that I want to simplify but keep making a mess. Can anyone help?
$$s = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + dotsb + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1$$




I get the following, but I know it's wrong



$$s = fracaq^n-1 - (ar^n)/q1 - (r/q)$$







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I have derived a geometric series below that I want to simplify but keep making a mess. Can anyone help?
$$s = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + dotsb + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1$$




I get the following, but I know it's wrong



$$s = fracaq^n-1 - (ar^n)/q1 - (r/q)$$









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  • Very happy with the answer and hints below. I'm left wondering why my approach of trying to find rs/q like shown on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series didn't work but that's another question I guess ...
    – user1753106
    Jul 26 at 22:54
















  • Very happy with the answer and hints below. I'm left wondering why my approach of trying to find rs/q like shown on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series didn't work but that's another question I guess ...
    – user1753106
    Jul 26 at 22:54















Very happy with the answer and hints below. I'm left wondering why my approach of trying to find rs/q like shown on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series didn't work but that's another question I guess ...
– user1753106
Jul 26 at 22:54




Very happy with the answer and hints below. I'm left wondering why my approach of trying to find rs/q like shown on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series didn't work but that's another question I guess ...
– user1753106
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Note that
beginalign
S & = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + cdots + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1\
& = aq^n-1left(1+fracrq+ cdots +fracr^n-1q^n-1right)\
& = aq^n-1 frac1-fracr^nq^n1-fracrq \
& = afracq^n-r^nq-r.
endalign






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    HINT



    Recall that we have



    $$A^n-B^n=(A-B)(A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1)$$



    and therefore



    $$A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1=fracA^n-B^nA-B=A^n-1frac1-left(frac B Aright)^n1-frac B A$$






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      Hint:



      Use the high-school formula:
      $$a^n-b^n=(a-b)(a^n-1+a^n-2b+dots+ab^n-2+b^n-1). $$






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      To find the common ratio (and prove that it is common, and hence a geometric series), divide two successive terms:
      $$fracaq^n-1-(k+1)r^k+1aq^n-1-kr^k = fracrq.$$
      Note that this doesn't depend on $n$, so the ratio is common between all terms. The initial term is $aq^n-1$, and there are $n$ terms, so the sum is,
      $$s = aq^n-1 fracleft(fracrqright)^n - 1fracrq - 1 = aqfracqr^n - 1r - q$$






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        Note that
        beginalign
        S & = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + cdots + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1\
        & = aq^n-1left(1+fracrq+ cdots +fracr^n-1q^n-1right)\
        & = aq^n-1 frac1-fracr^nq^n1-fracrq \
        & = afracq^n-r^nq-r.
        endalign






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          Note that
          beginalign
          S & = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + cdots + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1\
          & = aq^n-1left(1+fracrq+ cdots +fracr^n-1q^n-1right)\
          & = aq^n-1 frac1-fracr^nq^n1-fracrq \
          & = afracq^n-r^nq-r.
          endalign






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            Note that
            beginalign
            S & = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + cdots + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1\
            & = aq^n-1left(1+fracrq+ cdots +fracr^n-1q^n-1right)\
            & = aq^n-1 frac1-fracr^nq^n1-fracrq \
            & = afracq^n-r^nq-r.
            endalign






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            Note that
            beginalign
            S & = aq^n-1r^0 + aq^n-2r^1 + cdots + aq^1r^n-2 + aq^0r^n-1\
            & = aq^n-1left(1+fracrq+ cdots +fracr^n-1q^n-1right)\
            & = aq^n-1 frac1-fracr^nq^n1-fracrq \
            & = afracq^n-r^nq-r.
            endalign







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                HINT



                Recall that we have



                $$A^n-B^n=(A-B)(A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1)$$



                and therefore



                $$A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1=fracA^n-B^nA-B=A^n-1frac1-left(frac B Aright)^n1-frac B A$$






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                  HINT



                  Recall that we have



                  $$A^n-B^n=(A-B)(A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1)$$



                  and therefore



                  $$A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1=fracA^n-B^nA-B=A^n-1frac1-left(frac B Aright)^n1-frac B A$$






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                    HINT



                    Recall that we have



                    $$A^n-B^n=(A-B)(A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1)$$



                    and therefore



                    $$A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1=fracA^n-B^nA-B=A^n-1frac1-left(frac B Aright)^n1-frac B A$$






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                    HINT



                    Recall that we have



                    $$A^n-B^n=(A-B)(A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1)$$



                    and therefore



                    $$A^n-1+A^n-2B+ldots+AB^n-2+B^n-1=fracA^n-B^nA-B=A^n-1frac1-left(frac B Aright)^n1-frac B A$$







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                        Hint:



                        Use the high-school formula:
                        $$a^n-b^n=(a-b)(a^n-1+a^n-2b+dots+ab^n-2+b^n-1). $$






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                        • This got me there myself before @Math Lover thanks. Upvoted but I have no reputation here ..
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                        Hint:



                        Use the high-school formula:
                        $$a^n-b^n=(a-b)(a^n-1+a^n-2b+dots+ab^n-2+b^n-1). $$






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                        • This got me there myself before @Math Lover thanks. Upvoted but I have no reputation here ..
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                        Hint:



                        Use the high-school formula:
                        $$a^n-b^n=(a-b)(a^n-1+a^n-2b+dots+ab^n-2+b^n-1). $$






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                        Hint:



                        Use the high-school formula:
                        $$a^n-b^n=(a-b)(a^n-1+a^n-2b+dots+ab^n-2+b^n-1). $$







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                        • This got me there myself before @Math Lover thanks. Upvoted but I have no reputation here ..
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                        • This got me there myself before @Math Lover thanks. Upvoted but I have no reputation here ..
                          – user1753106
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                        This got me there myself before @Math Lover thanks. Upvoted but I have no reputation here ..
                        – user1753106
                        Jul 26 at 22:51




                        This got me there myself before @Math Lover thanks. Upvoted but I have no reputation here ..
                        – user1753106
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                        To find the common ratio (and prove that it is common, and hence a geometric series), divide two successive terms:
                        $$fracaq^n-1-(k+1)r^k+1aq^n-1-kr^k = fracrq.$$
                        Note that this doesn't depend on $n$, so the ratio is common between all terms. The initial term is $aq^n-1$, and there are $n$ terms, so the sum is,
                        $$s = aq^n-1 fracleft(fracrqright)^n - 1fracrq - 1 = aqfracqr^n - 1r - q$$






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                          To find the common ratio (and prove that it is common, and hence a geometric series), divide two successive terms:
                          $$fracaq^n-1-(k+1)r^k+1aq^n-1-kr^k = fracrq.$$
                          Note that this doesn't depend on $n$, so the ratio is common between all terms. The initial term is $aq^n-1$, and there are $n$ terms, so the sum is,
                          $$s = aq^n-1 fracleft(fracrqright)^n - 1fracrq - 1 = aqfracqr^n - 1r - q$$






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                            up vote
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                            To find the common ratio (and prove that it is common, and hence a geometric series), divide two successive terms:
                            $$fracaq^n-1-(k+1)r^k+1aq^n-1-kr^k = fracrq.$$
                            Note that this doesn't depend on $n$, so the ratio is common between all terms. The initial term is $aq^n-1$, and there are $n$ terms, so the sum is,
                            $$s = aq^n-1 fracleft(fracrqright)^n - 1fracrq - 1 = aqfracqr^n - 1r - q$$






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                            To find the common ratio (and prove that it is common, and hence a geometric series), divide two successive terms:
                            $$fracaq^n-1-(k+1)r^k+1aq^n-1-kr^k = fracrq.$$
                            Note that this doesn't depend on $n$, so the ratio is common between all terms. The initial term is $aq^n-1$, and there are $n$ terms, so the sum is,
                            $$s = aq^n-1 fracleft(fracrqright)^n - 1fracrq - 1 = aqfracqr^n - 1r - q$$







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