Expansion of $x$ in powers of $u$

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Given:
$$sin(x) = u sin(x+a),qquad u<1$$



How do I expand $x$ in powers of $u$?



I tried using Taylor series but it failed to proceed.







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  • And you want to expand about $u=0$? I.e. $x(u) = sum alpha_i u^i$?
    – user7530
    Jul 18 at 15:09










  • @user7530 yes I need to expand in ascending powers of u. No condition for u=0 is given in statement. It is just asking me to develop an infinite series.
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:25










  • @lab bhattacharjee That doesn't help. The answer is: usin(a) + (1/2) u^2 sin(2a) and so on......
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:53










  • @labbhattacharjee your form doesn't gets simplified
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:54














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Given:
$$sin(x) = u sin(x+a),qquad u<1$$



How do I expand $x$ in powers of $u$?



I tried using Taylor series but it failed to proceed.







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  • And you want to expand about $u=0$? I.e. $x(u) = sum alpha_i u^i$?
    – user7530
    Jul 18 at 15:09










  • @user7530 yes I need to expand in ascending powers of u. No condition for u=0 is given in statement. It is just asking me to develop an infinite series.
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:25










  • @lab bhattacharjee That doesn't help. The answer is: usin(a) + (1/2) u^2 sin(2a) and so on......
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:53










  • @labbhattacharjee your form doesn't gets simplified
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:54












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Given:
$$sin(x) = u sin(x+a),qquad u<1$$



How do I expand $x$ in powers of $u$?



I tried using Taylor series but it failed to proceed.







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Given:
$$sin(x) = u sin(x+a),qquad u<1$$



How do I expand $x$ in powers of $u$?



I tried using Taylor series but it failed to proceed.









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  • And you want to expand about $u=0$? I.e. $x(u) = sum alpha_i u^i$?
    – user7530
    Jul 18 at 15:09










  • @user7530 yes I need to expand in ascending powers of u. No condition for u=0 is given in statement. It is just asking me to develop an infinite series.
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:25










  • @lab bhattacharjee That doesn't help. The answer is: usin(a) + (1/2) u^2 sin(2a) and so on......
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:53










  • @labbhattacharjee your form doesn't gets simplified
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:54
















  • And you want to expand about $u=0$? I.e. $x(u) = sum alpha_i u^i$?
    – user7530
    Jul 18 at 15:09










  • @user7530 yes I need to expand in ascending powers of u. No condition for u=0 is given in statement. It is just asking me to develop an infinite series.
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:25










  • @lab bhattacharjee That doesn't help. The answer is: usin(a) + (1/2) u^2 sin(2a) and so on......
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:53










  • @labbhattacharjee your form doesn't gets simplified
    – David
    Jul 18 at 15:54















And you want to expand about $u=0$? I.e. $x(u) = sum alpha_i u^i$?
– user7530
Jul 18 at 15:09




And you want to expand about $u=0$? I.e. $x(u) = sum alpha_i u^i$?
– user7530
Jul 18 at 15:09












@user7530 yes I need to expand in ascending powers of u. No condition for u=0 is given in statement. It is just asking me to develop an infinite series.
– David
Jul 18 at 15:25




@user7530 yes I need to expand in ascending powers of u. No condition for u=0 is given in statement. It is just asking me to develop an infinite series.
– David
Jul 18 at 15:25












@lab bhattacharjee That doesn't help. The answer is: usin(a) + (1/2) u^2 sin(2a) and so on......
– David
Jul 18 at 15:53




@lab bhattacharjee That doesn't help. The answer is: usin(a) + (1/2) u^2 sin(2a) and so on......
– David
Jul 18 at 15:53












@labbhattacharjee your form doesn't gets simplified
– David
Jul 18 at 15:54




@labbhattacharjee your form doesn't gets simplified
– David
Jul 18 at 15:54










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Here is what I did. I started with $, x_0 := O(u). ,$ Define by recursion
$, x_n+1 := sin^-1(u sin(x_n + a)). ,$ The first few values are
$, x_1 = sin(a), u + O(u^2), , x_2 = sin(a), u + sin(2a),u^2/2 + O(u^3). ,$
Using the pattern and taking it to the limit, I found that
$, x = log( (1 - u exp(-ia)) / (1 - uexp(ia)) )/(2i). ,$ In the limit
$, x = sum_n=1^infty sin(na),u^n/n . ,$



Another method uses exponentials. Let
$, X := exp(i x), , A := exp(i a) ,$
and substitute them in equation
$, sin(x) = u sin(x+a) ,$ to get
$, (X - 1/X) = u (X A - 1/(X A)) ,$
and solving for $, X ,$ gives
$ X^2 = (1 - u/A) / (1 - A u). ,$
Using $, log(1-x) = - sum_n>0 x^n/n ,$
now gives the power series in $, u.$






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  • Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
    – David
    Jul 18 at 22:46










  • Ok thank you for helping
    – David
    Jul 19 at 2:55










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Here is what I did. I started with $, x_0 := O(u). ,$ Define by recursion
$, x_n+1 := sin^-1(u sin(x_n + a)). ,$ The first few values are
$, x_1 = sin(a), u + O(u^2), , x_2 = sin(a), u + sin(2a),u^2/2 + O(u^3). ,$
Using the pattern and taking it to the limit, I found that
$, x = log( (1 - u exp(-ia)) / (1 - uexp(ia)) )/(2i). ,$ In the limit
$, x = sum_n=1^infty sin(na),u^n/n . ,$



Another method uses exponentials. Let
$, X := exp(i x), , A := exp(i a) ,$
and substitute them in equation
$, sin(x) = u sin(x+a) ,$ to get
$, (X - 1/X) = u (X A - 1/(X A)) ,$
and solving for $, X ,$ gives
$ X^2 = (1 - u/A) / (1 - A u). ,$
Using $, log(1-x) = - sum_n>0 x^n/n ,$
now gives the power series in $, u.$






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  • Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
    – David
    Jul 18 at 22:46










  • Ok thank you for helping
    – David
    Jul 19 at 2:55














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1
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Here is what I did. I started with $, x_0 := O(u). ,$ Define by recursion
$, x_n+1 := sin^-1(u sin(x_n + a)). ,$ The first few values are
$, x_1 = sin(a), u + O(u^2), , x_2 = sin(a), u + sin(2a),u^2/2 + O(u^3). ,$
Using the pattern and taking it to the limit, I found that
$, x = log( (1 - u exp(-ia)) / (1 - uexp(ia)) )/(2i). ,$ In the limit
$, x = sum_n=1^infty sin(na),u^n/n . ,$



Another method uses exponentials. Let
$, X := exp(i x), , A := exp(i a) ,$
and substitute them in equation
$, sin(x) = u sin(x+a) ,$ to get
$, (X - 1/X) = u (X A - 1/(X A)) ,$
and solving for $, X ,$ gives
$ X^2 = (1 - u/A) / (1 - A u). ,$
Using $, log(1-x) = - sum_n>0 x^n/n ,$
now gives the power series in $, u.$






share|cite|improve this answer























  • Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
    – David
    Jul 18 at 22:46










  • Ok thank you for helping
    – David
    Jul 19 at 2:55












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Here is what I did. I started with $, x_0 := O(u). ,$ Define by recursion
$, x_n+1 := sin^-1(u sin(x_n + a)). ,$ The first few values are
$, x_1 = sin(a), u + O(u^2), , x_2 = sin(a), u + sin(2a),u^2/2 + O(u^3). ,$
Using the pattern and taking it to the limit, I found that
$, x = log( (1 - u exp(-ia)) / (1 - uexp(ia)) )/(2i). ,$ In the limit
$, x = sum_n=1^infty sin(na),u^n/n . ,$



Another method uses exponentials. Let
$, X := exp(i x), , A := exp(i a) ,$
and substitute them in equation
$, sin(x) = u sin(x+a) ,$ to get
$, (X - 1/X) = u (X A - 1/(X A)) ,$
and solving for $, X ,$ gives
$ X^2 = (1 - u/A) / (1 - A u). ,$
Using $, log(1-x) = - sum_n>0 x^n/n ,$
now gives the power series in $, u.$






share|cite|improve this answer















Here is what I did. I started with $, x_0 := O(u). ,$ Define by recursion
$, x_n+1 := sin^-1(u sin(x_n + a)). ,$ The first few values are
$, x_1 = sin(a), u + O(u^2), , x_2 = sin(a), u + sin(2a),u^2/2 + O(u^3). ,$
Using the pattern and taking it to the limit, I found that
$, x = log( (1 - u exp(-ia)) / (1 - uexp(ia)) )/(2i). ,$ In the limit
$, x = sum_n=1^infty sin(na),u^n/n . ,$



Another method uses exponentials. Let
$, X := exp(i x), , A := exp(i a) ,$
and substitute them in equation
$, sin(x) = u sin(x+a) ,$ to get
$, (X - 1/X) = u (X A - 1/(X A)) ,$
and solving for $, X ,$ gives
$ X^2 = (1 - u/A) / (1 - A u). ,$
Using $, log(1-x) = - sum_n>0 x^n/n ,$
now gives the power series in $, u.$







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  • Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
    – David
    Jul 18 at 22:46










  • Ok thank you for helping
    – David
    Jul 19 at 2:55
















  • Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
    – David
    Jul 18 at 22:46










  • Ok thank you for helping
    – David
    Jul 19 at 2:55















Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
– David
Jul 18 at 22:46




Don't know if this is solution is feasible, but it is a brute force way to find the answer
– David
Jul 18 at 22:46












Ok thank you for helping
– David
Jul 19 at 2:55




Ok thank you for helping
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