Are there natural number satisfying the following equations?
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The motivation comes from the following question on MathOverflow:
Is the exponential version of Catalan-Dickson conjecture true?
Question 1. Is there a natural number $n$ satisfying the equation $n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. I am also interested in the minimum $n$ satisfying this equation if there is any.
As the answer to the above question is negative, let's consider the following more generalized form:
Question 2. Are there natural number $n$ and prime number $p$ satisfying the equation $fracn(n+1)2=fracpp-1times p^[log_p^n]+fracp-2p-1times p^n$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. (Note that for $p=2$ we get the previous equation.)
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The motivation comes from the following question on MathOverflow:
Is the exponential version of Catalan-Dickson conjecture true?
Question 1. Is there a natural number $n$ satisfying the equation $n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. I am also interested in the minimum $n$ satisfying this equation if there is any.
As the answer to the above question is negative, let's consider the following more generalized form:
Question 2. Are there natural number $n$ and prime number $p$ satisfying the equation $fracn(n+1)2=fracpp-1times p^[log_p^n]+fracp-2p-1times p^n$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. (Note that for $p=2$ we get the previous equation.)
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Well for $n>1$ the left hand side would not be a power of $2$, so no.
– Gal Porat
Jul 21 at 9:33
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Anyway, what is $log_2^n$?
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jul 21 at 9:35
For the more general question, $fracp-2p-1cdot p^n$ quickly outgrows $fracn(n+1)2$...
– Wojowu
Jul 21 at 10:43
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The motivation comes from the following question on MathOverflow:
Is the exponential version of Catalan-Dickson conjecture true?
Question 1. Is there a natural number $n$ satisfying the equation $n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. I am also interested in the minimum $n$ satisfying this equation if there is any.
As the answer to the above question is negative, let's consider the following more generalized form:
Question 2. Are there natural number $n$ and prime number $p$ satisfying the equation $fracn(n+1)2=fracpp-1times p^[log_p^n]+fracp-2p-1times p^n$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. (Note that for $p=2$ we get the previous equation.)
number-theory discrete-mathematics logarithms natural-numbers
The motivation comes from the following question on MathOverflow:
Is the exponential version of Catalan-Dickson conjecture true?
Question 1. Is there a natural number $n$ satisfying the equation $n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. I am also interested in the minimum $n$ satisfying this equation if there is any.
As the answer to the above question is negative, let's consider the following more generalized form:
Question 2. Are there natural number $n$ and prime number $p$ satisfying the equation $fracn(n+1)2=fracpp-1times p^[log_p^n]+fracp-2p-1times p^n$ where $[.]$ indicates the floor function. (Note that for $p=2$ we get the previous equation.)
number-theory discrete-mathematics logarithms natural-numbers
edited Jul 21 at 10:36
asked Jul 21 at 9:27


Morteza Azad
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Well for $n>1$ the left hand side would not be a power of $2$, so no.
– Gal Porat
Jul 21 at 9:33
1
Anyway, what is $log_2^n$?
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jul 21 at 9:35
For the more general question, $fracp-2p-1cdot p^n$ quickly outgrows $fracn(n+1)2$...
– Wojowu
Jul 21 at 10:43
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Well for $n>1$ the left hand side would not be a power of $2$, so no.
– Gal Porat
Jul 21 at 9:33
1
Anyway, what is $log_2^n$?
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jul 21 at 9:35
For the more general question, $fracp-2p-1cdot p^n$ quickly outgrows $fracn(n+1)2$...
– Wojowu
Jul 21 at 10:43
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Well for $n>1$ the left hand side would not be a power of $2$, so no.
– Gal Porat
Jul 21 at 9:33
Well for $n>1$ the left hand side would not be a power of $2$, so no.
– Gal Porat
Jul 21 at 9:33
1
1
Anyway, what is $log_2^n$?
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jul 21 at 9:35
Anyway, what is $log_2^n$?
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jul 21 at 9:35
For the more general question, $fracp-2p-1cdot p^n$ quickly outgrows $fracn(n+1)2$...
– Wojowu
Jul 21 at 10:43
For the more general question, $fracp-2p-1cdot p^n$ quickly outgrows $fracn(n+1)2$...
– Wojowu
Jul 21 at 10:43
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The RHS of $$n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$$ is a power of $2$ while the LHS is not a power of $2$ unless $n=1$ and $n=1$ is not a solution.
Thus I would say there are no solutions for this equation.
And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
3
down vote
accepted
The RHS of $$n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$$ is a power of $2$ while the LHS is not a power of $2$ unless $n=1$ and $n=1$ is not a solution.
Thus I would say there are no solutions for this equation.
And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
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The RHS of $$n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$$ is a power of $2$ while the LHS is not a power of $2$ unless $n=1$ and $n=1$ is not a solution.
Thus I would say there are no solutions for this equation.
And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
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up vote
3
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accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
The RHS of $$n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$$ is a power of $2$ while the LHS is not a power of $2$ unless $n=1$ and $n=1$ is not a solution.
Thus I would say there are no solutions for this equation.
The RHS of $$n(n+1)=2^[log^n_2]+2$$ is a power of $2$ while the LHS is not a power of $2$ unless $n=1$ and $n=1$ is not a solution.
Thus I would say there are no solutions for this equation.
edited Jul 21 at 19:51
answered Jul 21 at 10:13


Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
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And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
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And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
And for the second question the left side is an integer while the right side is probably not. It is difficult to get rid of the $p-1$ in the denominator.
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 at 20:51
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Well for $n>1$ the left hand side would not be a power of $2$, so no.
– Gal Porat
Jul 21 at 9:33
1
Anyway, what is $log_2^n$?
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jul 21 at 9:35
For the more general question, $fracp-2p-1cdot p^n$ quickly outgrows $fracn(n+1)2$...
– Wojowu
Jul 21 at 10:43