Solution of differential equation $d/dt langle N(t) rangle=k-Gamma langle N(t) rangle$ where brackets indicate average

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I have the following ODE yielded as a steady state solution to a more complicated ODE. The important part is just to consider the following:



$$d/dt langle N(t) rangle=k-Gamma langle N(t) rangle$$
where $langle N(t) rangle$ can be seen as $y$ or an average of $y$ (brackets indicating avg). I am not sure if that is the reason for the result.



The solution is given by
$$langle N(t) rangle=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+langle N(t) rangle e^-Gamma t$$



I do not see that however. So far, I've solved first for
$$d/dt <N(t)>=Gamma <N(t)>=0$$



Yielding
$$langle N(t) rangle>=Ccdot e^-Gamma t$$



and $C$
$$C=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+c_0$$



I do not see how it solves the equation by inserting c.



Any help is highly appreciated :)



edit: I had a thought it may have to do with the average being additive, and starting and $langle N(0) rangle$ being the same as $langle N(t) rangle$ since it is steady state. I am not completely sure however.







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  • Use langle and rangle for angle brackets: $langle$ $rangle$
    – Dylan
    Jul 20 at 18:43











  • What is the $Gamma$?
    – Botond
    Jul 20 at 18:52










  • $Gamma$ is just a constant :)
    – user469216
    Jul 20 at 18:53














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I have the following ODE yielded as a steady state solution to a more complicated ODE. The important part is just to consider the following:



$$d/dt langle N(t) rangle=k-Gamma langle N(t) rangle$$
where $langle N(t) rangle$ can be seen as $y$ or an average of $y$ (brackets indicating avg). I am not sure if that is the reason for the result.



The solution is given by
$$langle N(t) rangle=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+langle N(t) rangle e^-Gamma t$$



I do not see that however. So far, I've solved first for
$$d/dt <N(t)>=Gamma <N(t)>=0$$



Yielding
$$langle N(t) rangle>=Ccdot e^-Gamma t$$



and $C$
$$C=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+c_0$$



I do not see how it solves the equation by inserting c.



Any help is highly appreciated :)



edit: I had a thought it may have to do with the average being additive, and starting and $langle N(0) rangle$ being the same as $langle N(t) rangle$ since it is steady state. I am not completely sure however.







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  • Use langle and rangle for angle brackets: $langle$ $rangle$
    – Dylan
    Jul 20 at 18:43











  • What is the $Gamma$?
    – Botond
    Jul 20 at 18:52










  • $Gamma$ is just a constant :)
    – user469216
    Jul 20 at 18:53












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2
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2
down vote

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I have the following ODE yielded as a steady state solution to a more complicated ODE. The important part is just to consider the following:



$$d/dt langle N(t) rangle=k-Gamma langle N(t) rangle$$
where $langle N(t) rangle$ can be seen as $y$ or an average of $y$ (brackets indicating avg). I am not sure if that is the reason for the result.



The solution is given by
$$langle N(t) rangle=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+langle N(t) rangle e^-Gamma t$$



I do not see that however. So far, I've solved first for
$$d/dt <N(t)>=Gamma <N(t)>=0$$



Yielding
$$langle N(t) rangle>=Ccdot e^-Gamma t$$



and $C$
$$C=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+c_0$$



I do not see how it solves the equation by inserting c.



Any help is highly appreciated :)



edit: I had a thought it may have to do with the average being additive, and starting and $langle N(0) rangle$ being the same as $langle N(t) rangle$ since it is steady state. I am not completely sure however.







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I have the following ODE yielded as a steady state solution to a more complicated ODE. The important part is just to consider the following:



$$d/dt langle N(t) rangle=k-Gamma langle N(t) rangle$$
where $langle N(t) rangle$ can be seen as $y$ or an average of $y$ (brackets indicating avg). I am not sure if that is the reason for the result.



The solution is given by
$$langle N(t) rangle=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+langle N(t) rangle e^-Gamma t$$



I do not see that however. So far, I've solved first for
$$d/dt <N(t)>=Gamma <N(t)>=0$$



Yielding
$$langle N(t) rangle>=Ccdot e^-Gamma t$$



and $C$
$$C=k/Gamma (1-e^-Gamma t)+c_0$$



I do not see how it solves the equation by inserting c.



Any help is highly appreciated :)



edit: I had a thought it may have to do with the average being additive, and starting and $langle N(0) rangle$ being the same as $langle N(t) rangle$ since it is steady state. I am not completely sure however.









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  • Use langle and rangle for angle brackets: $langle$ $rangle$
    – Dylan
    Jul 20 at 18:43











  • What is the $Gamma$?
    – Botond
    Jul 20 at 18:52










  • $Gamma$ is just a constant :)
    – user469216
    Jul 20 at 18:53
















  • Use langle and rangle for angle brackets: $langle$ $rangle$
    – Dylan
    Jul 20 at 18:43











  • What is the $Gamma$?
    – Botond
    Jul 20 at 18:52










  • $Gamma$ is just a constant :)
    – user469216
    Jul 20 at 18:53















Use langle and rangle for angle brackets: $langle$ $rangle$
– Dylan
Jul 20 at 18:43





Use langle and rangle for angle brackets: $langle$ $rangle$
– Dylan
Jul 20 at 18:43













What is the $Gamma$?
– Botond
Jul 20 at 18:52




What is the $Gamma$?
– Botond
Jul 20 at 18:52












$Gamma$ is just a constant :)
– user469216
Jul 20 at 18:53




$Gamma$ is just a constant :)
– user469216
Jul 20 at 18:53










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Let $y = langle N(t)rangle$, so that we may write
$$fracdydt +Gamma y = k$$ This equation can be solved by method of integrating factors. An integrating factor here is $e^int_0^t Gamma, ds = e^Gamma t$. Multiply the equation by $e^Gamma t$ and note that by the product rule, we obtain $$fracddt(e^Gamma t y) = ke^Gamma t$$ Integrate both sides to get $$e^Gamma ty = frackGammae^Gamma t + C$$where $C$ is a constant. Setting $t = 0$, $y(0) = k/Gamma + C$, so then $C = y(0) - k/Gamma$. Therefore $$y = frackGamma + left(y(0) - frackGammaright)e^-Gamma t= frackGammaleft(1 - e^-Gamma tright) + y(0)e^-Gamma t$$ as desired.






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    Let $y = langle N(t)rangle$, so that we may write
    $$fracdydt +Gamma y = k$$ This equation can be solved by method of integrating factors. An integrating factor here is $e^int_0^t Gamma, ds = e^Gamma t$. Multiply the equation by $e^Gamma t$ and note that by the product rule, we obtain $$fracddt(e^Gamma t y) = ke^Gamma t$$ Integrate both sides to get $$e^Gamma ty = frackGammae^Gamma t + C$$where $C$ is a constant. Setting $t = 0$, $y(0) = k/Gamma + C$, so then $C = y(0) - k/Gamma$. Therefore $$y = frackGamma + left(y(0) - frackGammaright)e^-Gamma t= frackGammaleft(1 - e^-Gamma tright) + y(0)e^-Gamma t$$ as desired.






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      Let $y = langle N(t)rangle$, so that we may write
      $$fracdydt +Gamma y = k$$ This equation can be solved by method of integrating factors. An integrating factor here is $e^int_0^t Gamma, ds = e^Gamma t$. Multiply the equation by $e^Gamma t$ and note that by the product rule, we obtain $$fracddt(e^Gamma t y) = ke^Gamma t$$ Integrate both sides to get $$e^Gamma ty = frackGammae^Gamma t + C$$where $C$ is a constant. Setting $t = 0$, $y(0) = k/Gamma + C$, so then $C = y(0) - k/Gamma$. Therefore $$y = frackGamma + left(y(0) - frackGammaright)e^-Gamma t= frackGammaleft(1 - e^-Gamma tright) + y(0)e^-Gamma t$$ as desired.






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        Let $y = langle N(t)rangle$, so that we may write
        $$fracdydt +Gamma y = k$$ This equation can be solved by method of integrating factors. An integrating factor here is $e^int_0^t Gamma, ds = e^Gamma t$. Multiply the equation by $e^Gamma t$ and note that by the product rule, we obtain $$fracddt(e^Gamma t y) = ke^Gamma t$$ Integrate both sides to get $$e^Gamma ty = frackGammae^Gamma t + C$$where $C$ is a constant. Setting $t = 0$, $y(0) = k/Gamma + C$, so then $C = y(0) - k/Gamma$. Therefore $$y = frackGamma + left(y(0) - frackGammaright)e^-Gamma t= frackGammaleft(1 - e^-Gamma tright) + y(0)e^-Gamma t$$ as desired.






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        Let $y = langle N(t)rangle$, so that we may write
        $$fracdydt +Gamma y = k$$ This equation can be solved by method of integrating factors. An integrating factor here is $e^int_0^t Gamma, ds = e^Gamma t$. Multiply the equation by $e^Gamma t$ and note that by the product rule, we obtain $$fracddt(e^Gamma t y) = ke^Gamma t$$ Integrate both sides to get $$e^Gamma ty = frackGammae^Gamma t + C$$where $C$ is a constant. Setting $t = 0$, $y(0) = k/Gamma + C$, so then $C = y(0) - k/Gamma$. Therefore $$y = frackGamma + left(y(0) - frackGammaright)e^-Gamma t= frackGammaleft(1 - e^-Gamma tright) + y(0)e^-Gamma t$$ as desired.







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