Asymptotic for binary linear code
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Let $C=[n,k,d]$ is a binary linear code of length $n$, dimension $k$, and minimum distance $d$. Let us consider all possible binary linear codes with $k=d$ and $nin mathbb N$. Is it true that
$$A=mathoplim limits_kto infty frackn=0 ?$$
I look codetables.de and this assumption looks plausible. Are suitable boundaries or hypotheses known?
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Let $C=[n,k,d]$ is a binary linear code of length $n$, dimension $k$, and minimum distance $d$. Let us consider all possible binary linear codes with $k=d$ and $nin mathbb N$. Is it true that
$$A=mathoplim limits_kto infty frackn=0 ?$$
I look codetables.de and this assumption looks plausible. Are suitable boundaries or hypotheses known?
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I assume you want the number of codes, not just $frac kn$, in your limit. For fixed $n$, once $k gt frac n2$ there are no codes
– Ross Millikan
yesterday
@RossMillikan $n=n(k)$ and $n→infty $ as $k→infty $, of course. From your comments it follows that $A=mathoplim sup _k→infty k/n le 1/2$. áan there exist codes $[10k,k,k]$ for arbitrarily large $k$? If such codes exist only a finite number, no more, then $A le 1/10$ etc.
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Let $C=[n,k,d]$ is a binary linear code of length $n$, dimension $k$, and minimum distance $d$. Let us consider all possible binary linear codes with $k=d$ and $nin mathbb N$. Is it true that
$$A=mathoplim limits_kto infty frackn=0 ?$$
I look codetables.de and this assumption looks plausible. Are suitable boundaries or hypotheses known?
reference-request coding-theory
Let $C=[n,k,d]$ is a binary linear code of length $n$, dimension $k$, and minimum distance $d$. Let us consider all possible binary linear codes with $k=d$ and $nin mathbb N$. Is it true that
$$A=mathoplim limits_kto infty frackn=0 ?$$
I look codetables.de and this assumption looks plausible. Are suitable boundaries or hypotheses known?
reference-request coding-theory
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I assume you want the number of codes, not just $frac kn$, in your limit. For fixed $n$, once $k gt frac n2$ there are no codes
– Ross Millikan
yesterday
@RossMillikan $n=n(k)$ and $n→infty $ as $k→infty $, of course. From your comments it follows that $A=mathoplim sup _k→infty k/n le 1/2$. áan there exist codes $[10k,k,k]$ for arbitrarily large $k$? If such codes exist only a finite number, no more, then $A le 1/10$ etc.
– grizzly
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I assume you want the number of codes, not just $frac kn$, in your limit. For fixed $n$, once $k gt frac n2$ there are no codes
– Ross Millikan
yesterday
@RossMillikan $n=n(k)$ and $n→infty $ as $k→infty $, of course. From your comments it follows that $A=mathoplim sup _k→infty k/n le 1/2$. áan there exist codes $[10k,k,k]$ for arbitrarily large $k$? If such codes exist only a finite number, no more, then $A le 1/10$ etc.
– grizzly
yesterday
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I assume you want the number of codes, not just $frac kn$, in your limit. For fixed $n$, once $k gt frac n2$ there are no codes
– Ross Millikan
yesterday
I assume you want the number of codes, not just $frac kn$, in your limit. For fixed $n$, once $k gt frac n2$ there are no codes
– Ross Millikan
yesterday
@RossMillikan $n=n(k)$ and $n→infty $ as $k→infty $, of course. From your comments it follows that $A=mathoplim sup _k→infty k/n le 1/2$. áan there exist codes $[10k,k,k]$ for arbitrarily large $k$? If such codes exist only a finite number, no more, then $A le 1/10$ etc.
– grizzly
yesterday
@RossMillikan $n=n(k)$ and $n→infty $ as $k→infty $, of course. From your comments it follows that $A=mathoplim sup _k→infty k/n le 1/2$. áan there exist codes $[10k,k,k]$ for arbitrarily large $k$? If such codes exist only a finite number, no more, then $A le 1/10$ etc.
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The Gilbert Varshamov bound shows the existence of a binary linear code of dimension $$kgeq n-lfloor log_2 V(n,d-1)rfloor,$$
where $V(n,r)$ is the volume of the hamming sphere in the $n$ dimensional hypercube.
Let $d=k$, and find the maximal $k$ satisfying this equation, for each $n$. Along a subsequence of integers, something like the existence of codes with parameters
$$
[Ak_i,k_i,k_i]
$$
with $A=5,$ should hold.
More generally, let $nrightarrow infty$ and use the fact that for each $n$ the binomial coefficients $binomnk,$ are superincreasing in $k$ up to about $k<n/3,$ and the approximation
$$
V(n,k-1)approx binomnk approx 2^n (h(k/n)+o(1)),
$$
where $h$ is binary Shannon entropy (see here) to conclude that the solution $theta=0.227cdots$ to
$$
1-theta=h(theta)
$$
where $theta=k/n,$ means that asymptotically there is a sequence of codes with parameters $[Ak,k,k]$ and $A=1/theta.$
This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
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The Gilbert Varshamov bound shows the existence of a binary linear code of dimension $$kgeq n-lfloor log_2 V(n,d-1)rfloor,$$
where $V(n,r)$ is the volume of the hamming sphere in the $n$ dimensional hypercube.
Let $d=k$, and find the maximal $k$ satisfying this equation, for each $n$. Along a subsequence of integers, something like the existence of codes with parameters
$$
[Ak_i,k_i,k_i]
$$
with $A=5,$ should hold.
More generally, let $nrightarrow infty$ and use the fact that for each $n$ the binomial coefficients $binomnk,$ are superincreasing in $k$ up to about $k<n/3,$ and the approximation
$$
V(n,k-1)approx binomnk approx 2^n (h(k/n)+o(1)),
$$
where $h$ is binary Shannon entropy (see here) to conclude that the solution $theta=0.227cdots$ to
$$
1-theta=h(theta)
$$
where $theta=k/n,$ means that asymptotically there is a sequence of codes with parameters $[Ak,k,k]$ and $A=1/theta.$
This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
– grizzly
7 hours ago
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The Gilbert Varshamov bound shows the existence of a binary linear code of dimension $$kgeq n-lfloor log_2 V(n,d-1)rfloor,$$
where $V(n,r)$ is the volume of the hamming sphere in the $n$ dimensional hypercube.
Let $d=k$, and find the maximal $k$ satisfying this equation, for each $n$. Along a subsequence of integers, something like the existence of codes with parameters
$$
[Ak_i,k_i,k_i]
$$
with $A=5,$ should hold.
More generally, let $nrightarrow infty$ and use the fact that for each $n$ the binomial coefficients $binomnk,$ are superincreasing in $k$ up to about $k<n/3,$ and the approximation
$$
V(n,k-1)approx binomnk approx 2^n (h(k/n)+o(1)),
$$
where $h$ is binary Shannon entropy (see here) to conclude that the solution $theta=0.227cdots$ to
$$
1-theta=h(theta)
$$
where $theta=k/n,$ means that asymptotically there is a sequence of codes with parameters $[Ak,k,k]$ and $A=1/theta.$
This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
– grizzly
7 hours ago
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The Gilbert Varshamov bound shows the existence of a binary linear code of dimension $$kgeq n-lfloor log_2 V(n,d-1)rfloor,$$
where $V(n,r)$ is the volume of the hamming sphere in the $n$ dimensional hypercube.
Let $d=k$, and find the maximal $k$ satisfying this equation, for each $n$. Along a subsequence of integers, something like the existence of codes with parameters
$$
[Ak_i,k_i,k_i]
$$
with $A=5,$ should hold.
More generally, let $nrightarrow infty$ and use the fact that for each $n$ the binomial coefficients $binomnk,$ are superincreasing in $k$ up to about $k<n/3,$ and the approximation
$$
V(n,k-1)approx binomnk approx 2^n (h(k/n)+o(1)),
$$
where $h$ is binary Shannon entropy (see here) to conclude that the solution $theta=0.227cdots$ to
$$
1-theta=h(theta)
$$
where $theta=k/n,$ means that asymptotically there is a sequence of codes with parameters $[Ak,k,k]$ and $A=1/theta.$
The Gilbert Varshamov bound shows the existence of a binary linear code of dimension $$kgeq n-lfloor log_2 V(n,d-1)rfloor,$$
where $V(n,r)$ is the volume of the hamming sphere in the $n$ dimensional hypercube.
Let $d=k$, and find the maximal $k$ satisfying this equation, for each $n$. Along a subsequence of integers, something like the existence of codes with parameters
$$
[Ak_i,k_i,k_i]
$$
with $A=5,$ should hold.
More generally, let $nrightarrow infty$ and use the fact that for each $n$ the binomial coefficients $binomnk,$ are superincreasing in $k$ up to about $k<n/3,$ and the approximation
$$
V(n,k-1)approx binomnk approx 2^n (h(k/n)+o(1)),
$$
where $h$ is binary Shannon entropy (see here) to conclude that the solution $theta=0.227cdots$ to
$$
1-theta=h(theta)
$$
where $theta=k/n,$ means that asymptotically there is a sequence of codes with parameters $[Ak,k,k]$ and $A=1/theta.$
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This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
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This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
– grizzly
7 hours ago
This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
– grizzly
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This is very useful for me. Many thanks!
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I assume you want the number of codes, not just $frac kn$, in your limit. For fixed $n$, once $k gt frac n2$ there are no codes
– Ross Millikan
yesterday
@RossMillikan $n=n(k)$ and $n→infty $ as $k→infty $, of course. From your comments it follows that $A=mathoplim sup _k→infty k/n le 1/2$. áan there exist codes $[10k,k,k]$ for arbitrarily large $k$? If such codes exist only a finite number, no more, then $A le 1/10$ etc.
– grizzly
yesterday