Prove that is group is abelian

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Let G be a set of all non-zero real numbers.
And a * b = (ab/2).



We need to show (G,*) is an abelian group.



I know I need to show ab = ba, but that seems so trivial,



Assuming the group is abelian,



a * b = b* a



ab/2 = ba/2
Crossing out 2, we get ab = ba



Is this the correct answer ?



Multiplying both sides inverse of a and b results in 1 = 1 . Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I missing something?




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    Assuming that the group is abelian is not a good start to a proof that the group is abelian.
    – ancientmathematician
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    I don't think it's correct to assume the thing you want to prove to be true.
    – poyea
    2 days ago











  • You're missing the fact that to show something is an Abelian group requires proving that it is a group.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago










  • Then, How should I proceed? The person who taught me this used similar strategy. Can anyone point me in the right direction/
    – Kushal Niroula
    2 days ago










  • First attend to group axioms: associativity requires $a*(b*c)=(a*b)*c$. Then there's identity and inverses...
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago














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Let G be a set of all non-zero real numbers.
And a * b = (ab/2).



We need to show (G,*) is an abelian group.



I know I need to show ab = ba, but that seems so trivial,



Assuming the group is abelian,



a * b = b* a



ab/2 = ba/2
Crossing out 2, we get ab = ba



Is this the correct answer ?



Multiplying both sides inverse of a and b results in 1 = 1 . Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I missing something?




abelian-groups




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  • 1




    Assuming that the group is abelian is not a good start to a proof that the group is abelian.
    – ancientmathematician
    2 days ago






  • 1




    I don't think it's correct to assume the thing you want to prove to be true.
    – poyea
    2 days ago











  • You're missing the fact that to show something is an Abelian group requires proving that it is a group.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago










  • Then, How should I proceed? The person who taught me this used similar strategy. Can anyone point me in the right direction/
    – Kushal Niroula
    2 days ago










  • First attend to group axioms: associativity requires $a*(b*c)=(a*b)*c$. Then there's identity and inverses...
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago












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Let G be a set of all non-zero real numbers.
And a * b = (ab/2).



We need to show (G,*) is an abelian group.



I know I need to show ab = ba, but that seems so trivial,



Assuming the group is abelian,



a * b = b* a



ab/2 = ba/2
Crossing out 2, we get ab = ba



Is this the correct answer ?



Multiplying both sides inverse of a and b results in 1 = 1 . Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I missing something?




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Let G be a set of all non-zero real numbers.
And a * b = (ab/2).



We need to show (G,*) is an abelian group.



I know I need to show ab = ba, but that seems so trivial,



Assuming the group is abelian,



a * b = b* a



ab/2 = ba/2
Crossing out 2, we get ab = ba



Is this the correct answer ?



Multiplying both sides inverse of a and b results in 1 = 1 . Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I missing something?





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    Assuming that the group is abelian is not a good start to a proof that the group is abelian.
    – ancientmathematician
    2 days ago






  • 1




    I don't think it's correct to assume the thing you want to prove to be true.
    – poyea
    2 days ago











  • You're missing the fact that to show something is an Abelian group requires proving that it is a group.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago










  • Then, How should I proceed? The person who taught me this used similar strategy. Can anyone point me in the right direction/
    – Kushal Niroula
    2 days ago










  • First attend to group axioms: associativity requires $a*(b*c)=(a*b)*c$. Then there's identity and inverses...
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago












  • 1




    Assuming that the group is abelian is not a good start to a proof that the group is abelian.
    – ancientmathematician
    2 days ago






  • 1




    I don't think it's correct to assume the thing you want to prove to be true.
    – poyea
    2 days ago











  • You're missing the fact that to show something is an Abelian group requires proving that it is a group.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago










  • Then, How should I proceed? The person who taught me this used similar strategy. Can anyone point me in the right direction/
    – Kushal Niroula
    2 days ago










  • First attend to group axioms: associativity requires $a*(b*c)=(a*b)*c$. Then there's identity and inverses...
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    2 days ago







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Assuming that the group is abelian is not a good start to a proof that the group is abelian.
– ancientmathematician
2 days ago




Assuming that the group is abelian is not a good start to a proof that the group is abelian.
– ancientmathematician
2 days ago




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1




I don't think it's correct to assume the thing you want to prove to be true.
– poyea
2 days ago





I don't think it's correct to assume the thing you want to prove to be true.
– poyea
2 days ago













You're missing the fact that to show something is an Abelian group requires proving that it is a group.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago




You're missing the fact that to show something is an Abelian group requires proving that it is a group.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago












Then, How should I proceed? The person who taught me this used similar strategy. Can anyone point me in the right direction/
– Kushal Niroula
2 days ago




Then, How should I proceed? The person who taught me this used similar strategy. Can anyone point me in the right direction/
– Kushal Niroula
2 days ago












First attend to group axioms: associativity requires $a*(b*c)=(a*b)*c$. Then there's identity and inverses...
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago




First attend to group axioms: associativity requires $a*(b*c)=(a*b)*c$. Then there's identity and inverses...
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago










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We have that $$a*b=dfracab2=acdot bcdotdfrac12$$form the other side$$b*a=bcdot acdotdfrac12$$since real numbers with multiplication operator is an Abelian group (If we needed to show that the proof became more complicated) so is this group.






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    We have that $$a*b=dfracab2=acdot bcdotdfrac12$$form the other side$$b*a=bcdot acdotdfrac12$$since real numbers with multiplication operator is an Abelian group (If we needed to show that the proof became more complicated) so is this group.






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      We have that $$a*b=dfracab2=acdot bcdotdfrac12$$form the other side$$b*a=bcdot acdotdfrac12$$since real numbers with multiplication operator is an Abelian group (If we needed to show that the proof became more complicated) so is this group.






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        We have that $$a*b=dfracab2=acdot bcdotdfrac12$$form the other side$$b*a=bcdot acdotdfrac12$$since real numbers with multiplication operator is an Abelian group (If we needed to show that the proof became more complicated) so is this group.






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        We have that $$a*b=dfracab2=acdot bcdotdfrac12$$form the other side$$b*a=bcdot acdotdfrac12$$since real numbers with multiplication operator is an Abelian group (If we needed to show that the proof became more complicated) so is this group.







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