Calculate $lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n$
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While working on limits in math my teacher gave us limits involving square roots as the following
Calculate:$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n$$
and even though I know how to handle limits like this, I would be interested in other ways to approach to tasks similar to this. My own solution will be at the bottom.
My own solution
$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n~fracsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+nsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n$$
$$lim_ntoinfty frac5n^2+4~-~(5n^2+n)sqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n~=~lim_ntoinfty frac4-nnleft(sqrt5+frac4n^2~+~sqrt5+frac1nright)$$
$$=~frac-12sqrt5~=~-fracsqrt510$$
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While working on limits in math my teacher gave us limits involving square roots as the following
Calculate:$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n$$
and even though I know how to handle limits like this, I would be interested in other ways to approach to tasks similar to this. My own solution will be at the bottom.
My own solution
$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n~fracsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+nsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n$$
$$lim_ntoinfty frac5n^2+4~-~(5n^2+n)sqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n~=~lim_ntoinfty frac4-nnleft(sqrt5+frac4n^2~+~sqrt5+frac1nright)$$
$$=~frac-12sqrt5~=~-fracsqrt510$$
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While working on limits in math my teacher gave us limits involving square roots as the following
Calculate:$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n$$
and even though I know how to handle limits like this, I would be interested in other ways to approach to tasks similar to this. My own solution will be at the bottom.
My own solution
$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n~fracsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+nsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n$$
$$lim_ntoinfty frac5n^2+4~-~(5n^2+n)sqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n~=~lim_ntoinfty frac4-nnleft(sqrt5+frac4n^2~+~sqrt5+frac1nright)$$
$$=~frac-12sqrt5~=~-fracsqrt510$$
calculus limits roots
While working on limits in math my teacher gave us limits involving square roots as the following
Calculate:$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n$$
and even though I know how to handle limits like this, I would be interested in other ways to approach to tasks similar to this. My own solution will be at the bottom.
My own solution
$$lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n~fracsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+nsqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n$$
$$lim_ntoinfty frac5n^2+4~-~(5n^2+n)sqrt5n^2+4~+~sqrt5n^2+n~=~lim_ntoinfty frac4-nnleft(sqrt5+frac4n^2~+~sqrt5+frac1nright)$$
$$=~frac-12sqrt5~=~-fracsqrt510$$
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edited Jul 23 at 9:14
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Two alternative ideas:
(1) Write
$$
sqrt5n^2+4 - sqrt5n^2+n =
sqrt 5n(sqrt1 + 4/5n^2 - sqrt1 + 1/5n)
$$
and use Taylor ($sqrt1 + x = 1 + x/2 - x^2/8 + cdots$).
(2) Let be $f(x) = sqrt x$. By the Mean Value Theorem, for some $c_nin(5n^2 + 4,5n^2 + n)$
$$
sqrt5n^2 + 4 - sqrt5n^2 + n =
f'(c_n)((5n^2 + 4) - (5n^2 + n)) =
-frac4 - n2sqrtc_n =
-frac4/n - 12sqrtc_n/n^2,
$$
and by sqeezing $c_n/n^2to 5$.
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It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
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Jul 22 at 15:33
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Let $1/n=h$
As $ntoinfty,hto0+,h>0$
$$sqrt5n^2+4=sqrtdfrac5+4h^2h^2=dfracsqrt5+4h^2sqrth^2$$
Now $sqrth^2=|h|=+h$ for $h>0$
So, we ahve
$$lim_hto0^+dfracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh=lim_hto0^+dfrac1sqrt5+4h^2+sqrt5+hcdotlim_hto0^+dfrac5+4h^2-(5+h)h=?$$
1
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
1
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
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Considering that $frac4n^2<< frac1n$ for big $n$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n equiv lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh = lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+o(h^2)-sqrt5+hh
$$
now remember the derivative definition
$$
lim_hto 0fracsqrtx+h-sqrt xh = frac 12fracsqrt xx
$$
so the result is
$$
-frac 12fracsqrt 55
$$
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Two alternative ideas:
(1) Write
$$
sqrt5n^2+4 - sqrt5n^2+n =
sqrt 5n(sqrt1 + 4/5n^2 - sqrt1 + 1/5n)
$$
and use Taylor ($sqrt1 + x = 1 + x/2 - x^2/8 + cdots$).
(2) Let be $f(x) = sqrt x$. By the Mean Value Theorem, for some $c_nin(5n^2 + 4,5n^2 + n)$
$$
sqrt5n^2 + 4 - sqrt5n^2 + n =
f'(c_n)((5n^2 + 4) - (5n^2 + n)) =
-frac4 - n2sqrtc_n =
-frac4/n - 12sqrtc_n/n^2,
$$
and by sqeezing $c_n/n^2to 5$.
3
It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Two alternative ideas:
(1) Write
$$
sqrt5n^2+4 - sqrt5n^2+n =
sqrt 5n(sqrt1 + 4/5n^2 - sqrt1 + 1/5n)
$$
and use Taylor ($sqrt1 + x = 1 + x/2 - x^2/8 + cdots$).
(2) Let be $f(x) = sqrt x$. By the Mean Value Theorem, for some $c_nin(5n^2 + 4,5n^2 + n)$
$$
sqrt5n^2 + 4 - sqrt5n^2 + n =
f'(c_n)((5n^2 + 4) - (5n^2 + n)) =
-frac4 - n2sqrtc_n =
-frac4/n - 12sqrtc_n/n^2,
$$
and by sqeezing $c_n/n^2to 5$.
3
It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 15:33
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Two alternative ideas:
(1) Write
$$
sqrt5n^2+4 - sqrt5n^2+n =
sqrt 5n(sqrt1 + 4/5n^2 - sqrt1 + 1/5n)
$$
and use Taylor ($sqrt1 + x = 1 + x/2 - x^2/8 + cdots$).
(2) Let be $f(x) = sqrt x$. By the Mean Value Theorem, for some $c_nin(5n^2 + 4,5n^2 + n)$
$$
sqrt5n^2 + 4 - sqrt5n^2 + n =
f'(c_n)((5n^2 + 4) - (5n^2 + n)) =
-frac4 - n2sqrtc_n =
-frac4/n - 12sqrtc_n/n^2,
$$
and by sqeezing $c_n/n^2to 5$.
Two alternative ideas:
(1) Write
$$
sqrt5n^2+4 - sqrt5n^2+n =
sqrt 5n(sqrt1 + 4/5n^2 - sqrt1 + 1/5n)
$$
and use Taylor ($sqrt1 + x = 1 + x/2 - x^2/8 + cdots$).
(2) Let be $f(x) = sqrt x$. By the Mean Value Theorem, for some $c_nin(5n^2 + 4,5n^2 + n)$
$$
sqrt5n^2 + 4 - sqrt5n^2 + n =
f'(c_n)((5n^2 + 4) - (5n^2 + n)) =
-frac4 - n2sqrtc_n =
-frac4/n - 12sqrtc_n/n^2,
$$
and by sqeezing $c_n/n^2to 5$.
edited Jul 22 at 13:11
answered Jul 22 at 11:18
MartÃn-Blas Pérez Pinilla
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It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 15:33
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3
It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 15:33
3
3
It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 15:33
It is amazing to use mean value theorem to solve this problem.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 15:33
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up vote
2
down vote
Let $1/n=h$
As $ntoinfty,hto0+,h>0$
$$sqrt5n^2+4=sqrtdfrac5+4h^2h^2=dfracsqrt5+4h^2sqrth^2$$
Now $sqrth^2=|h|=+h$ for $h>0$
So, we ahve
$$lim_hto0^+dfracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh=lim_hto0^+dfrac1sqrt5+4h^2+sqrt5+hcdotlim_hto0^+dfrac5+4h^2-(5+h)h=?$$
1
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
1
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
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up vote
2
down vote
Let $1/n=h$
As $ntoinfty,hto0+,h>0$
$$sqrt5n^2+4=sqrtdfrac5+4h^2h^2=dfracsqrt5+4h^2sqrth^2$$
Now $sqrth^2=|h|=+h$ for $h>0$
So, we ahve
$$lim_hto0^+dfracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh=lim_hto0^+dfrac1sqrt5+4h^2+sqrt5+hcdotlim_hto0^+dfrac5+4h^2-(5+h)h=?$$
1
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
1
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
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up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Let $1/n=h$
As $ntoinfty,hto0+,h>0$
$$sqrt5n^2+4=sqrtdfrac5+4h^2h^2=dfracsqrt5+4h^2sqrth^2$$
Now $sqrth^2=|h|=+h$ for $h>0$
So, we ahve
$$lim_hto0^+dfracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh=lim_hto0^+dfrac1sqrt5+4h^2+sqrt5+hcdotlim_hto0^+dfrac5+4h^2-(5+h)h=?$$
Let $1/n=h$
As $ntoinfty,hto0+,h>0$
$$sqrt5n^2+4=sqrtdfrac5+4h^2h^2=dfracsqrt5+4h^2sqrth^2$$
Now $sqrth^2=|h|=+h$ for $h>0$
So, we ahve
$$lim_hto0^+dfracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh=lim_hto0^+dfrac1sqrt5+4h^2+sqrt5+hcdotlim_hto0^+dfrac5+4h^2-(5+h)h=?$$
answered Jul 22 at 11:17
lab bhattacharjee
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1
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
1
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
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1
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
1
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
1
1
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
This is more or less the same as OP’s solution.
– Szeto
Jul 22 at 11:20
1
1
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
@Szeto, Agreed. But I hope $lim hto0$ make things more explicit
– lab bhattacharjee
Jul 22 at 11:22
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
I guess your approach @lab bhattacharjee is similiar to the two kinds of definition for $e$ : $e~=~lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n~=~lim_hto 0left(1+hright)^frac1h$. You just reversed the way how to reach infinity or respectively zero. But yes, you are right it is more explicit to see in your solution but not exactly what I am looking for.
– mrtaurho
Jul 22 at 11:28
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up vote
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Considering that $frac4n^2<< frac1n$ for big $n$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n equiv lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh = lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+o(h^2)-sqrt5+hh
$$
now remember the derivative definition
$$
lim_hto 0fracsqrtx+h-sqrt xh = frac 12fracsqrt xx
$$
so the result is
$$
-frac 12fracsqrt 55
$$
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Considering that $frac4n^2<< frac1n$ for big $n$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n equiv lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh = lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+o(h^2)-sqrt5+hh
$$
now remember the derivative definition
$$
lim_hto 0fracsqrtx+h-sqrt xh = frac 12fracsqrt xx
$$
so the result is
$$
-frac 12fracsqrt 55
$$
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Considering that $frac4n^2<< frac1n$ for big $n$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n equiv lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh = lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+o(h^2)-sqrt5+hh
$$
now remember the derivative definition
$$
lim_hto 0fracsqrtx+h-sqrt xh = frac 12fracsqrt xx
$$
so the result is
$$
-frac 12fracsqrt 55
$$
Considering that $frac4n^2<< frac1n$ for big $n$ we have
$$
lim_ntoinfty sqrt5n^2+4~-~sqrt5n^2+n equiv lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+4h^2-sqrt5+hh = lim_hto 0fracsqrt5+o(h^2)-sqrt5+hh
$$
now remember the derivative definition
$$
lim_hto 0fracsqrtx+h-sqrt xh = frac 12fracsqrt xx
$$
so the result is
$$
-frac 12fracsqrt 55
$$
answered Jul 22 at 11:30
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