Can we deduce Surjectivity from a property of Unitary linear map?
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Many books define the unitary linear map $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ as a bijective linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$.
And I have been trying to disprove that if $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ is a linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$ then $U$ is surjective.
I am pretty sure that the statement above is false since definition specify the bijectivity of unitary map and otherwise they don't need to do that. I hope someone can help me to come up with the counter example.
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Many books define the unitary linear map $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ as a bijective linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$.
And I have been trying to disprove that if $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ is a linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$ then $U$ is surjective.
I am pretty sure that the statement above is false since definition specify the bijectivity of unitary map and otherwise they don't need to do that. I hope someone can help me to come up with the counter example.
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Many books define the unitary linear map $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ as a bijective linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$.
And I have been trying to disprove that if $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ is a linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$ then $U$ is surjective.
I am pretty sure that the statement above is false since definition specify the bijectivity of unitary map and otherwise they don't need to do that. I hope someone can help me to come up with the counter example.
functional-analysis hilbert-spaces
Many books define the unitary linear map $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ as a bijective linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$.
And I have been trying to disprove that if $U: (mathbbH_1,left<right>_1) rightarrow (mathbbH_2,left<right>_2)$ is a linear map such that
$left< x,y right>_1=left<Ux,Uy right>_2$ then $U$ is surjective.
I am pretty sure that the statement above is false since definition specify the bijectivity of unitary map and otherwise they don't need to do that. I hope someone can help me to come up with the counter example.
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Let $H_1 = ell^2(mathbbN)$ and $H_2 = ell^2(mathbbN)$, with standard basis elements $e_0,e_1,e_2,cdots$. Then $U : H_1 rightarrow H_2$ defined by $Ue_n = e_2n$ satisfies $langle Ux,Uyrangle_2 = langle x,yrangle_1$, but $U$ is not surjective.
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Consider the space $ell^2=L^2(Bbb N)$ (where $Bbb N$ carries the counting measure) and the right-shift operator that sends a sequence $(a_n)_n in Bbb N$ to the sequence $(b_n)_n in Bbb N$ given by $b_0=0$ and $b_n=a_n-1$ for $ngeq 1$.
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Counterexamples are in order here. One is:
Take
$Bbb H_2 = Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1, tag 1$
and let the inner product on $Bbb H_2$ be given by
$langle (x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) rangle_2 = langle x_1, x_2 rangle_1 + langle y_1, y_2 rangle_1, tag 2$
where $(x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) in Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1$; now take
$U:Bbb H_1 to Bbb H_2, ; Ux = (x, 0); tag 3$
then
$langle Ux, Uy rangle_2 = langle (x, 0), (y, 0) rangle_2 = langle x, y rangle_1 + langle 0, 0 rangle_1 = langle x, y rangle_1; tag 4$
but it is easy to see that our map $U$ is not surjective, since for $0 ne z in Bbb H_1$, $(0, z) in Bbb H_2$ is not in the image of $U$.
Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
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Let $H_1 = ell^2(mathbbN)$ and $H_2 = ell^2(mathbbN)$, with standard basis elements $e_0,e_1,e_2,cdots$. Then $U : H_1 rightarrow H_2$ defined by $Ue_n = e_2n$ satisfies $langle Ux,Uyrangle_2 = langle x,yrangle_1$, but $U$ is not surjective.
Thanks for simple and clear example!
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:31
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Let $H_1 = ell^2(mathbbN)$ and $H_2 = ell^2(mathbbN)$, with standard basis elements $e_0,e_1,e_2,cdots$. Then $U : H_1 rightarrow H_2$ defined by $Ue_n = e_2n$ satisfies $langle Ux,Uyrangle_2 = langle x,yrangle_1$, but $U$ is not surjective.
Thanks for simple and clear example!
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:31
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Let $H_1 = ell^2(mathbbN)$ and $H_2 = ell^2(mathbbN)$, with standard basis elements $e_0,e_1,e_2,cdots$. Then $U : H_1 rightarrow H_2$ defined by $Ue_n = e_2n$ satisfies $langle Ux,Uyrangle_2 = langle x,yrangle_1$, but $U$ is not surjective.
Let $H_1 = ell^2(mathbbN)$ and $H_2 = ell^2(mathbbN)$, with standard basis elements $e_0,e_1,e_2,cdots$. Then $U : H_1 rightarrow H_2$ defined by $Ue_n = e_2n$ satisfies $langle Ux,Uyrangle_2 = langle x,yrangle_1$, but $U$ is not surjective.
answered Jul 26 at 3:07


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Thanks for simple and clear example!
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Thanks for simple and clear example!
– Lev Ban
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Thanks for simple and clear example!
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:31
Thanks for simple and clear example!
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:31
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Consider the space $ell^2=L^2(Bbb N)$ (where $Bbb N$ carries the counting measure) and the right-shift operator that sends a sequence $(a_n)_n in Bbb N$ to the sequence $(b_n)_n in Bbb N$ given by $b_0=0$ and $b_n=a_n-1$ for $ngeq 1$.
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Consider the space $ell^2=L^2(Bbb N)$ (where $Bbb N$ carries the counting measure) and the right-shift operator that sends a sequence $(a_n)_n in Bbb N$ to the sequence $(b_n)_n in Bbb N$ given by $b_0=0$ and $b_n=a_n-1$ for $ngeq 1$.
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Consider the space $ell^2=L^2(Bbb N)$ (where $Bbb N$ carries the counting measure) and the right-shift operator that sends a sequence $(a_n)_n in Bbb N$ to the sequence $(b_n)_n in Bbb N$ given by $b_0=0$ and $b_n=a_n-1$ for $ngeq 1$.
Consider the space $ell^2=L^2(Bbb N)$ (where $Bbb N$ carries the counting measure) and the right-shift operator that sends a sequence $(a_n)_n in Bbb N$ to the sequence $(b_n)_n in Bbb N$ given by $b_0=0$ and $b_n=a_n-1$ for $ngeq 1$.
answered Jul 26 at 2:59
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Counterexamples are in order here. One is:
Take
$Bbb H_2 = Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1, tag 1$
and let the inner product on $Bbb H_2$ be given by
$langle (x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) rangle_2 = langle x_1, x_2 rangle_1 + langle y_1, y_2 rangle_1, tag 2$
where $(x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) in Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1$; now take
$U:Bbb H_1 to Bbb H_2, ; Ux = (x, 0); tag 3$
then
$langle Ux, Uy rangle_2 = langle (x, 0), (y, 0) rangle_2 = langle x, y rangle_1 + langle 0, 0 rangle_1 = langle x, y rangle_1; tag 4$
but it is easy to see that our map $U$ is not surjective, since for $0 ne z in Bbb H_1$, $(0, z) in Bbb H_2$ is not in the image of $U$.
Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:37
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2
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Counterexamples are in order here. One is:
Take
$Bbb H_2 = Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1, tag 1$
and let the inner product on $Bbb H_2$ be given by
$langle (x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) rangle_2 = langle x_1, x_2 rangle_1 + langle y_1, y_2 rangle_1, tag 2$
where $(x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) in Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1$; now take
$U:Bbb H_1 to Bbb H_2, ; Ux = (x, 0); tag 3$
then
$langle Ux, Uy rangle_2 = langle (x, 0), (y, 0) rangle_2 = langle x, y rangle_1 + langle 0, 0 rangle_1 = langle x, y rangle_1; tag 4$
but it is easy to see that our map $U$ is not surjective, since for $0 ne z in Bbb H_1$, $(0, z) in Bbb H_2$ is not in the image of $U$.
Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:37
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up vote
2
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up vote
2
down vote
Counterexamples are in order here. One is:
Take
$Bbb H_2 = Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1, tag 1$
and let the inner product on $Bbb H_2$ be given by
$langle (x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) rangle_2 = langle x_1, x_2 rangle_1 + langle y_1, y_2 rangle_1, tag 2$
where $(x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) in Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1$; now take
$U:Bbb H_1 to Bbb H_2, ; Ux = (x, 0); tag 3$
then
$langle Ux, Uy rangle_2 = langle (x, 0), (y, 0) rangle_2 = langle x, y rangle_1 + langle 0, 0 rangle_1 = langle x, y rangle_1; tag 4$
but it is easy to see that our map $U$ is not surjective, since for $0 ne z in Bbb H_1$, $(0, z) in Bbb H_2$ is not in the image of $U$.
Counterexamples are in order here. One is:
Take
$Bbb H_2 = Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1, tag 1$
and let the inner product on $Bbb H_2$ be given by
$langle (x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) rangle_2 = langle x_1, x_2 rangle_1 + langle y_1, y_2 rangle_1, tag 2$
where $(x_1, y_1), (x_2, y_2) in Bbb H_1 oplus Bbb H_1$; now take
$U:Bbb H_1 to Bbb H_2, ; Ux = (x, 0); tag 3$
then
$langle Ux, Uy rangle_2 = langle (x, 0), (y, 0) rangle_2 = langle x, y rangle_1 + langle 0, 0 rangle_1 = langle x, y rangle_1; tag 4$
but it is easy to see that our map $U$ is not surjective, since for $0 ne z in Bbb H_1$, $(0, z) in Bbb H_2$ is not in the image of $U$.
answered Jul 26 at 3:07


Robert Lewis
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Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:37
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Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:37
Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:37
Consider that for any $x_1,x_2in mathbbHsetminus 0 $ , $ left<(x_1,x_1),(x_2,-x_2) right>_2= left< x_1,x_2 right>_1+left< x_1,-x_2 right>_1=0$ even if $(x_1,x_2)neq 0$. So, it seems the defined inner product is not correct one.
– Lev Ban
Jul 26 at 4:37
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