Computing the kernel of a morphism whose domain and codomain are polynomial algebras

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Let $k$ denote a field.



If $varphi$ is a $k$-linear map between $k$-modules freely generated by finite sets, then the kernel of $varphi$ can easily be found by reinterpreting $varphi$ as a matrix and performing row-reduction.



Suppose instead that $varphi$ is a $k$-algebra homomorphism between $k$-algebras freely generated by finite sets, i.e. between polynomial algebras in finitely-many indeterminates. Is there a way of explicitly computing the kernel of such a map?



Let's look at a really simple example. Suppose we want to show that $$fracmathbbR[x,y](y-x^2) cong mathbbR[x],$$



for example. A reasonable place to start is to define $varphi$ to be the unique morphism of $mathbbR$-algebras $$mathbbR[x,y] rightarrow mathbbR[x]$$ satisfying $varphi(x)=x$ and $varphi(y) = x^2$. This is clearly surjective, and presumably the kernel of this map is $(y-x^2),$ thereby giving the desired result via the first isomorphism theorem.



Part of my question is: if $varphi$ were more complicated, how could we work out what it's kernel was? Is there a systematic approach, like there is in linear algebra?



Part of my question is also about rigor. In the particular example of $varphi$ given above, since $varphi(x) = x$, thus $varphi(x^2) = x^2$, so $varphi(y - x^2) = 0$. Thus $(y-x^2) subseteq mathrmker(varphi)$. I'm a bit unsure how to go the other way. Supposing $varphi(P) = 0$, how can we show that $P in (y - x^2)$? And is there a method that works generally, even for much more complicate examples?



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    In your example, the image is an integral domain, so the kernel is a prime ideal. The height of $(y-x^2)$ is already $1$, so any prime containing it would be maximal. I can't give any general advice for calculating kernels; when forced to do so I generally resort to ad hoc methods.
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Let $k$ denote a field.



If $varphi$ is a $k$-linear map between $k$-modules freely generated by finite sets, then the kernel of $varphi$ can easily be found by reinterpreting $varphi$ as a matrix and performing row-reduction.



Suppose instead that $varphi$ is a $k$-algebra homomorphism between $k$-algebras freely generated by finite sets, i.e. between polynomial algebras in finitely-many indeterminates. Is there a way of explicitly computing the kernel of such a map?



Let's look at a really simple example. Suppose we want to show that $$fracmathbbR[x,y](y-x^2) cong mathbbR[x],$$



for example. A reasonable place to start is to define $varphi$ to be the unique morphism of $mathbbR$-algebras $$mathbbR[x,y] rightarrow mathbbR[x]$$ satisfying $varphi(x)=x$ and $varphi(y) = x^2$. This is clearly surjective, and presumably the kernel of this map is $(y-x^2),$ thereby giving the desired result via the first isomorphism theorem.



Part of my question is: if $varphi$ were more complicated, how could we work out what it's kernel was? Is there a systematic approach, like there is in linear algebra?



Part of my question is also about rigor. In the particular example of $varphi$ given above, since $varphi(x) = x$, thus $varphi(x^2) = x^2$, so $varphi(y - x^2) = 0$. Thus $(y-x^2) subseteq mathrmker(varphi)$. I'm a bit unsure how to go the other way. Supposing $varphi(P) = 0$, how can we show that $P in (y - x^2)$? And is there a method that works generally, even for much more complicate examples?



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    In your example, the image is an integral domain, so the kernel is a prime ideal. The height of $(y-x^2)$ is already $1$, so any prime containing it would be maximal. I can't give any general advice for calculating kernels; when forced to do so I generally resort to ad hoc methods.
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Let $k$ denote a field.



If $varphi$ is a $k$-linear map between $k$-modules freely generated by finite sets, then the kernel of $varphi$ can easily be found by reinterpreting $varphi$ as a matrix and performing row-reduction.



Suppose instead that $varphi$ is a $k$-algebra homomorphism between $k$-algebras freely generated by finite sets, i.e. between polynomial algebras in finitely-many indeterminates. Is there a way of explicitly computing the kernel of such a map?



Let's look at a really simple example. Suppose we want to show that $$fracmathbbR[x,y](y-x^2) cong mathbbR[x],$$



for example. A reasonable place to start is to define $varphi$ to be the unique morphism of $mathbbR$-algebras $$mathbbR[x,y] rightarrow mathbbR[x]$$ satisfying $varphi(x)=x$ and $varphi(y) = x^2$. This is clearly surjective, and presumably the kernel of this map is $(y-x^2),$ thereby giving the desired result via the first isomorphism theorem.



Part of my question is: if $varphi$ were more complicated, how could we work out what it's kernel was? Is there a systematic approach, like there is in linear algebra?



Part of my question is also about rigor. In the particular example of $varphi$ given above, since $varphi(x) = x$, thus $varphi(x^2) = x^2$, so $varphi(y - x^2) = 0$. Thus $(y-x^2) subseteq mathrmker(varphi)$. I'm a bit unsure how to go the other way. Supposing $varphi(P) = 0$, how can we show that $P in (y - x^2)$? And is there a method that works generally, even for much more complicate examples?



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Let $k$ denote a field.



If $varphi$ is a $k$-linear map between $k$-modules freely generated by finite sets, then the kernel of $varphi$ can easily be found by reinterpreting $varphi$ as a matrix and performing row-reduction.



Suppose instead that $varphi$ is a $k$-algebra homomorphism between $k$-algebras freely generated by finite sets, i.e. between polynomial algebras in finitely-many indeterminates. Is there a way of explicitly computing the kernel of such a map?



Let's look at a really simple example. Suppose we want to show that $$fracmathbbR[x,y](y-x^2) cong mathbbR[x],$$



for example. A reasonable place to start is to define $varphi$ to be the unique morphism of $mathbbR$-algebras $$mathbbR[x,y] rightarrow mathbbR[x]$$ satisfying $varphi(x)=x$ and $varphi(y) = x^2$. This is clearly surjective, and presumably the kernel of this map is $(y-x^2),$ thereby giving the desired result via the first isomorphism theorem.



Part of my question is: if $varphi$ were more complicated, how could we work out what it's kernel was? Is there a systematic approach, like there is in linear algebra?



Part of my question is also about rigor. In the particular example of $varphi$ given above, since $varphi(x) = x$, thus $varphi(x^2) = x^2$, so $varphi(y - x^2) = 0$. Thus $(y-x^2) subseteq mathrmker(varphi)$. I'm a bit unsure how to go the other way. Supposing $varphi(P) = 0$, how can we show that $P in (y - x^2)$? And is there a method that works generally, even for much more complicate examples?



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    In your example, the image is an integral domain, so the kernel is a prime ideal. The height of $(y-x^2)$ is already $1$, so any prime containing it would be maximal. I can't give any general advice for calculating kernels; when forced to do so I generally resort to ad hoc methods.
    – John Brevik
    Aug 6 at 12:44












  • 1




    In your example, the image is an integral domain, so the kernel is a prime ideal. The height of $(y-x^2)$ is already $1$, so any prime containing it would be maximal. I can't give any general advice for calculating kernels; when forced to do so I generally resort to ad hoc methods.
    – John Brevik
    Aug 6 at 12:44







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In your example, the image is an integral domain, so the kernel is a prime ideal. The height of $(y-x^2)$ is already $1$, so any prime containing it would be maximal. I can't give any general advice for calculating kernels; when forced to do so I generally resort to ad hoc methods.
– John Brevik
Aug 6 at 12:44




In your example, the image is an integral domain, so the kernel is a prime ideal. The height of $(y-x^2)$ is already $1$, so any prime containing it would be maximal. I can't give any general advice for calculating kernels; when forced to do so I generally resort to ad hoc methods.
– John Brevik
Aug 6 at 12:44















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