Convergence of $int_0^1 (-ln x)^p ,dx$ [duplicate]
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Jul 25 at 18:27
@gt6989b $-ln(x)>0$ for $xin(0,1)$.
– Robert Z
Jul 25 at 18:32
@RobertZ right, sorry
– gt6989b
Jul 25 at 18:32
$-ln x = ln frac 1x$ substitute $u = frac 1x$ this will change your limits to $[1, infty)$ and do a comparison test to functions that you know converge (and diverge).
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For what real values of a does the integral $intlimits_0^1(-ln x)^a,dx$ converge?
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For what values of $p$ does the following integral converge: $$int_0^1(-ln x)^p , dx$$
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@gt6989b A direction would be appreciated
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:27
@gt6989b $-ln(x)>0$ for $xin(0,1)$.
– Robert Z
Jul 25 at 18:32
@RobertZ right, sorry
– gt6989b
Jul 25 at 18:32
$-ln x = ln frac 1x$ substitute $u = frac 1x$ this will change your limits to $[1, infty)$ and do a comparison test to functions that you know converge (and diverge).
– Doug M
Jul 25 at 18:34
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@gt6989b A direction would be appreciated
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:27
@gt6989b $-ln(x)>0$ for $xin(0,1)$.
– Robert Z
Jul 25 at 18:32
@RobertZ right, sorry
– gt6989b
Jul 25 at 18:32
$-ln x = ln frac 1x$ substitute $u = frac 1x$ this will change your limits to $[1, infty)$ and do a comparison test to functions that you know converge (and diverge).
– Doug M
Jul 25 at 18:34
@gt6989b A direction would be appreciated
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:27
@gt6989b A direction would be appreciated
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:27
@gt6989b $-ln(x)>0$ for $xin(0,1)$.
– Robert Z
Jul 25 at 18:32
@gt6989b $-ln(x)>0$ for $xin(0,1)$.
– Robert Z
Jul 25 at 18:32
@RobertZ right, sorry
– gt6989b
Jul 25 at 18:32
@RobertZ right, sorry
– gt6989b
Jul 25 at 18:32
$-ln x = ln frac 1x$ substitute $u = frac 1x$ this will change your limits to $[1, infty)$ and do a comparison test to functions that you know converge (and diverge).
– Doug M
Jul 25 at 18:34
$-ln x = ln frac 1x$ substitute $u = frac 1x$ this will change your limits to $[1, infty)$ and do a comparison test to functions that you know converge (and diverge).
– Doug M
Jul 25 at 18:34
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We have that for $y=1/x$
$$int_0^1(-ln x)^pdx=int_1^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy+int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
and
$$int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
converges for any $p$ by limit comparison test with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ but
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
diverges for $ple -1$, indeed for $p<0$, let $q=-p$ and $z=y-1$
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_0^1frac1ln^q(1+z)(z+1)^2dz$$
and for $zto 0^+$
$$frac1ln^q(1+z) sim frac1z^q$$
Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
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We have that for $y=1/x$
$$int_0^1(-ln x)^pdx=int_1^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy+int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
and
$$int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
converges for any $p$ by limit comparison test with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ but
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
diverges for $ple -1$, indeed for $p<0$, let $q=-p$ and $z=y-1$
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_0^1frac1ln^q(1+z)(z+1)^2dz$$
and for $zto 0^+$
$$frac1ln^q(1+z) sim frac1z^q$$
Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
We have that for $y=1/x$
$$int_0^1(-ln x)^pdx=int_1^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy+int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
and
$$int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
converges for any $p$ by limit comparison test with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ but
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
diverges for $ple -1$, indeed for $p<0$, let $q=-p$ and $z=y-1$
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_0^1frac1ln^q(1+z)(z+1)^2dz$$
and for $zto 0^+$
$$frac1ln^q(1+z) sim frac1z^q$$
Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
We have that for $y=1/x$
$$int_0^1(-ln x)^pdx=int_1^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy+int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
and
$$int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
converges for any $p$ by limit comparison test with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ but
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
diverges for $ple -1$, indeed for $p<0$, let $q=-p$ and $z=y-1$
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_0^1frac1ln^q(1+z)(z+1)^2dz$$
and for $zto 0^+$
$$frac1ln^q(1+z) sim frac1z^q$$
We have that for $y=1/x$
$$int_0^1(-ln x)^pdx=int_1^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy+int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
and
$$int_2^inftyfrac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
converges for any $p$ by limit comparison test with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ but
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy$$
diverges for $ple -1$, indeed for $p<0$, let $q=-p$ and $z=y-1$
$$int_1^2frac(ln y)^py^2dy=int_0^1frac1ln^q(1+z)(z+1)^2dz$$
and for $zto 0^+$
$$frac1ln^q(1+z) sim frac1z^q$$
edited Jul 25 at 19:47
answered Jul 25 at 18:39
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Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
add a comment |Â
Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
Can you explain how to complete the proof? I get that it converges for all $p$ which doesn't make sense to me.
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:55
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
To complete we can refer to limit comparison test for example with $int frac1y^frac32 dy$ and show that the given integral converge for any p.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:01
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@UmShmum For $p leq -1$ the integral diverges though.
– ComplexYetTrivial
Jul 25 at 19:31
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
@ComplexYetTrivial Ops...yes of course we have problem at 1 in taht case. Thanks I fix that.
– gimusi
Jul 25 at 19:36
add a comment |Â
@gt6989b A direction would be appreciated
– Um Shmum
Jul 25 at 18:27
@gt6989b $-ln(x)>0$ for $xin(0,1)$.
– Robert Z
Jul 25 at 18:32
@RobertZ right, sorry
– gt6989b
Jul 25 at 18:32
$-ln x = ln frac 1x$ substitute $u = frac 1x$ this will change your limits to $[1, infty)$ and do a comparison test to functions that you know converge (and diverge).
– Doug M
Jul 25 at 18:34