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How can I find $intsqrtx/(x^2+1),dx$?



I tried by substitution and by integration by parts but it doesn't seem to work. I only need hints, not answers.







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    Substitute $x=t^2$ begineqnarray* 2 int fract^2(t^2+sqrt2t+1)(t^2-sqrt2t+1) dt. endeqnarray* Now do partial fractions ... good luck $ddot smile$
    – Donald Splutterwit
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    This comment may or may not be a better answer than the one answer that's been posted so far, depending on the needs of those asking the question, but it seems to me that factoring $t^4+1$ in that way is something that students learning this sort of thing for the first time often don't know how to do.
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How can I find $intsqrtx/(x^2+1),dx$?



I tried by substitution and by integration by parts but it doesn't seem to work. I only need hints, not answers.







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    Substitute $x=t^2$ begineqnarray* 2 int fract^2(t^2+sqrt2t+1)(t^2-sqrt2t+1) dt. endeqnarray* Now do partial fractions ... good luck $ddot smile$
    – Donald Splutterwit
    Jul 22 at 20:31






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    This comment may or may not be a better answer than the one answer that's been posted so far, depending on the needs of those asking the question, but it seems to me that factoring $t^4+1$ in that way is something that students learning this sort of thing for the first time often don't know how to do.
    – Michael Hardy
    Jul 22 at 20:56












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How can I find $intsqrtx/(x^2+1),dx$?



I tried by substitution and by integration by parts but it doesn't seem to work. I only need hints, not answers.







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How can I find $intsqrtx/(x^2+1),dx$?



I tried by substitution and by integration by parts but it doesn't seem to work. I only need hints, not answers.









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    Substitute $x=t^2$ begineqnarray* 2 int fract^2(t^2+sqrt2t+1)(t^2-sqrt2t+1) dt. endeqnarray* Now do partial fractions ... good luck $ddot smile$
    – Donald Splutterwit
    Jul 22 at 20:31






  • 1




    This comment may or may not be a better answer than the one answer that's been posted so far, depending on the needs of those asking the question, but it seems to me that factoring $t^4+1$ in that way is something that students learning this sort of thing for the first time often don't know how to do.
    – Michael Hardy
    Jul 22 at 20:56












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    Substitute $x=t^2$ begineqnarray* 2 int fract^2(t^2+sqrt2t+1)(t^2-sqrt2t+1) dt. endeqnarray* Now do partial fractions ... good luck $ddot smile$
    – Donald Splutterwit
    Jul 22 at 20:31






  • 1




    This comment may or may not be a better answer than the one answer that's been posted so far, depending on the needs of those asking the question, but it seems to me that factoring $t^4+1$ in that way is something that students learning this sort of thing for the first time often don't know how to do.
    – Michael Hardy
    Jul 22 at 20:56







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Substitute $x=t^2$ begineqnarray* 2 int fract^2(t^2+sqrt2t+1)(t^2-sqrt2t+1) dt. endeqnarray* Now do partial fractions ... good luck $ddot smile$
– Donald Splutterwit
Jul 22 at 20:31




Substitute $x=t^2$ begineqnarray* 2 int fract^2(t^2+sqrt2t+1)(t^2-sqrt2t+1) dt. endeqnarray* Now do partial fractions ... good luck $ddot smile$
– Donald Splutterwit
Jul 22 at 20:31




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This comment may or may not be a better answer than the one answer that's been posted so far, depending on the needs of those asking the question, but it seems to me that factoring $t^4+1$ in that way is something that students learning this sort of thing for the first time often don't know how to do.
– Michael Hardy
Jul 22 at 20:56




This comment may or may not be a better answer than the one answer that's been posted so far, depending on the needs of those asking the question, but it seems to me that factoring $t^4+1$ in that way is something that students learning this sort of thing for the first time often don't know how to do.
– Michael Hardy
Jul 22 at 20:56










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Try taking
$$u=sqrtxtext and du=dfrac12sqrtx,dx$$



Then you get
$$2intfracu^2u^4+1 , du$$
Can you take it from here?






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  • That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
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    Jul 26 at 4:36










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Try taking
$$u=sqrtxtext and du=dfrac12sqrtx,dx$$



Then you get
$$2intfracu^2u^4+1 , du$$
Can you take it from here?






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  • That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
    – user573497
    Jul 26 at 4:36














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Try taking
$$u=sqrtxtext and du=dfrac12sqrtx,dx$$



Then you get
$$2intfracu^2u^4+1 , du$$
Can you take it from here?






share|cite|improve this answer























  • That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
    – user573497
    Jul 26 at 4:36












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Try taking
$$u=sqrtxtext and du=dfrac12sqrtx,dx$$



Then you get
$$2intfracu^2u^4+1 , du$$
Can you take it from here?






share|cite|improve this answer















Try taking
$$u=sqrtxtext and du=dfrac12sqrtx,dx$$



Then you get
$$2intfracu^2u^4+1 , du$$
Can you take it from here?







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  • That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
    – user573497
    Jul 26 at 4:36
















  • That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
    – user573497
    Jul 26 at 4:36















That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
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That seems to be alright. Thank you for the help! :)
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