How to find transformation from the upper half plane into the right half plane?
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Find the general form of the linear transformation which transforms
the upper half plane into the right half plane.
In my notes I have a Mobius transformation from the upper half plane to the unit circle $T(z)=e^itheta_0fracz-z_0z-overline z_0$.
Also another transformation from the unit circle to the upper half plane $T(z)=(1-i)fracz-iz-1$.
But I do not know how to construct the possible composition transformation from upper half plane into the right half plane.
Could someone help please?
Any hint?
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Find the general form of the linear transformation which transforms
the upper half plane into the right half plane.
In my notes I have a Mobius transformation from the upper half plane to the unit circle $T(z)=e^itheta_0fracz-z_0z-overline z_0$.
Also another transformation from the unit circle to the upper half plane $T(z)=(1-i)fracz-iz-1$.
But I do not know how to construct the possible composition transformation from upper half plane into the right half plane.
Could someone help please?
Any hint?
complex-analysis linear-transformations mobius-transformation
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How about you just rotate the plane?
– quid♦
yesterday
@quid Ok, Am I going to use this transformation $T(z)=e^itheta_0z$ then?.
– Isa
yesterday
Yes. And what is $theta_0$?
– David G. Stork
yesterday
@DavidG.Stork it's the angle of rotation, the principal argument
– Isa
yesterday
1
I'd be glad to tell you if I knew how. A Möbius transformation $T$ is of the form $$T(z) =az+bover cz+d$$ where $ad-bcneq 0,$ so the question apparently asks for conditions on $a,b,c,d.$ It looks easy if $c=0$ -- just a straightforward elaboration of the answers given in the comments -- but I haven't been able to either handle the $cneq0$ case or to prove that $c=0.$
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Find the general form of the linear transformation which transforms
the upper half plane into the right half plane.
In my notes I have a Mobius transformation from the upper half plane to the unit circle $T(z)=e^itheta_0fracz-z_0z-overline z_0$.
Also another transformation from the unit circle to the upper half plane $T(z)=(1-i)fracz-iz-1$.
But I do not know how to construct the possible composition transformation from upper half plane into the right half plane.
Could someone help please?
Any hint?
complex-analysis linear-transformations mobius-transformation
Find the general form of the linear transformation which transforms
the upper half plane into the right half plane.
In my notes I have a Mobius transformation from the upper half plane to the unit circle $T(z)=e^itheta_0fracz-z_0z-overline z_0$.
Also another transformation from the unit circle to the upper half plane $T(z)=(1-i)fracz-iz-1$.
But I do not know how to construct the possible composition transformation from upper half plane into the right half plane.
Could someone help please?
Any hint?
complex-analysis linear-transformations mobius-transformation
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How about you just rotate the plane?
– quid♦
yesterday
@quid Ok, Am I going to use this transformation $T(z)=e^itheta_0z$ then?.
– Isa
yesterday
Yes. And what is $theta_0$?
– David G. Stork
yesterday
@DavidG.Stork it's the angle of rotation, the principal argument
– Isa
yesterday
1
I'd be glad to tell you if I knew how. A Möbius transformation $T$ is of the form $$T(z) =az+bover cz+d$$ where $ad-bcneq 0,$ so the question apparently asks for conditions on $a,b,c,d.$ It looks easy if $c=0$ -- just a straightforward elaboration of the answers given in the comments -- but I haven't been able to either handle the $cneq0$ case or to prove that $c=0.$
– saulspatz
yesterday
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How about you just rotate the plane?
– quid♦
yesterday
@quid Ok, Am I going to use this transformation $T(z)=e^itheta_0z$ then?.
– Isa
yesterday
Yes. And what is $theta_0$?
– David G. Stork
yesterday
@DavidG.Stork it's the angle of rotation, the principal argument
– Isa
yesterday
1
I'd be glad to tell you if I knew how. A Möbius transformation $T$ is of the form $$T(z) =az+bover cz+d$$ where $ad-bcneq 0,$ so the question apparently asks for conditions on $a,b,c,d.$ It looks easy if $c=0$ -- just a straightforward elaboration of the answers given in the comments -- but I haven't been able to either handle the $cneq0$ case or to prove that $c=0.$
– saulspatz
yesterday
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How about you just rotate the plane?
– quid♦
yesterday
How about you just rotate the plane?
– quid♦
yesterday
@quid Ok, Am I going to use this transformation $T(z)=e^itheta_0z$ then?.
– Isa
yesterday
@quid Ok, Am I going to use this transformation $T(z)=e^itheta_0z$ then?.
– Isa
yesterday
Yes. And what is $theta_0$?
– David G. Stork
yesterday
Yes. And what is $theta_0$?
– David G. Stork
yesterday
@DavidG.Stork it's the angle of rotation, the principal argument
– Isa
yesterday
@DavidG.Stork it's the angle of rotation, the principal argument
– Isa
yesterday
1
1
I'd be glad to tell you if I knew how. A Möbius transformation $T$ is of the form $$T(z) =az+bover cz+d$$ where $ad-bcneq 0,$ so the question apparently asks for conditions on $a,b,c,d.$ It looks easy if $c=0$ -- just a straightforward elaboration of the answers given in the comments -- but I haven't been able to either handle the $cneq0$ case or to prove that $c=0.$
– saulspatz
yesterday
I'd be glad to tell you if I knew how. A Möbius transformation $T$ is of the form $$T(z) =az+bover cz+d$$ where $ad-bcneq 0,$ so the question apparently asks for conditions on $a,b,c,d.$ It looks easy if $c=0$ -- just a straightforward elaboration of the answers given in the comments -- but I haven't been able to either handle the $cneq0$ case or to prove that $c=0.$
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I think I've got it. The transformation $T$ must take the boundary of the upper half-plane to the boundary of the right half-plane. That is, it must take the real axis to the imaginary axis. If $$T(z)=az+bover cz +d, ad-bcneq=0,tag1$$ we have that $xinmathbfR$ implies $$Refrac(ax+b)overline(cx+d)cx+d=0impliesRe(ax+b)overline(cx+d)=0$$
Now for given, $a,b,c,dinmathbfC, Re(ax+b)overline(cx+d)$ is a quadratic in $x$ that vanishes everywhere, so all the coefficients must be $0$. That is,
$$Re(aoverlinec)=Re(aoverlined+boverlinec)=Re(boverlined)=0tag2$$
Let us assume that $cneq0.$ Then we may divide numerator and denominator in $(1)$ by $c$, or what is the same thing, we may assume that $c=1,$ so $(2)$ becomes
$$Re(a)=Re(aoverlined+b)=Re(boverlined)=0tag3$$
From $c=1$ we have $T(-d)=infty,$ but $infty$ is on the imaginary axis so $dinmathbfR,$ and from $(3),$ we have $Re a=0$ and $Re(ad+b)=0,$ so that $Re b = 0.$ That is,
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betaz+d, text where alpha,beta,dinmathbfR, alpha d -betaneq0$$
which can obviously be re-written more symmetrically as
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betagamma z+ delta, text where alpha,beta,gamma deltainmathbfR, alphadelta-betagammaneq=0$$
However, this leaves open the possibility that $T$ maps the upper half-plane to the $left$ half-plane.
This leaves you with two things to do. First, finish off the $cneq0$ case. (Hint: $Re T(i)>0$.) Second, do the (easier) $c=0$ case.
I feel that there must be an easier way of seeing this, but I've not been able to find one.
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Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
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@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
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I think I've got it. The transformation $T$ must take the boundary of the upper half-plane to the boundary of the right half-plane. That is, it must take the real axis to the imaginary axis. If $$T(z)=az+bover cz +d, ad-bcneq=0,tag1$$ we have that $xinmathbfR$ implies $$Refrac(ax+b)overline(cx+d)cx+d=0impliesRe(ax+b)overline(cx+d)=0$$
Now for given, $a,b,c,dinmathbfC, Re(ax+b)overline(cx+d)$ is a quadratic in $x$ that vanishes everywhere, so all the coefficients must be $0$. That is,
$$Re(aoverlinec)=Re(aoverlined+boverlinec)=Re(boverlined)=0tag2$$
Let us assume that $cneq0.$ Then we may divide numerator and denominator in $(1)$ by $c$, or what is the same thing, we may assume that $c=1,$ so $(2)$ becomes
$$Re(a)=Re(aoverlined+b)=Re(boverlined)=0tag3$$
From $c=1$ we have $T(-d)=infty,$ but $infty$ is on the imaginary axis so $dinmathbfR,$ and from $(3),$ we have $Re a=0$ and $Re(ad+b)=0,$ so that $Re b = 0.$ That is,
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betaz+d, text where alpha,beta,dinmathbfR, alpha d -betaneq0$$
which can obviously be re-written more symmetrically as
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betagamma z+ delta, text where alpha,beta,gamma deltainmathbfR, alphadelta-betagammaneq=0$$
However, this leaves open the possibility that $T$ maps the upper half-plane to the $left$ half-plane.
This leaves you with two things to do. First, finish off the $cneq0$ case. (Hint: $Re T(i)>0$.) Second, do the (easier) $c=0$ case.
I feel that there must be an easier way of seeing this, but I've not been able to find one.
1
Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
17 hours ago
@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
– saulspatz
17 hours ago
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I think I've got it. The transformation $T$ must take the boundary of the upper half-plane to the boundary of the right half-plane. That is, it must take the real axis to the imaginary axis. If $$T(z)=az+bover cz +d, ad-bcneq=0,tag1$$ we have that $xinmathbfR$ implies $$Refrac(ax+b)overline(cx+d)cx+d=0impliesRe(ax+b)overline(cx+d)=0$$
Now for given, $a,b,c,dinmathbfC, Re(ax+b)overline(cx+d)$ is a quadratic in $x$ that vanishes everywhere, so all the coefficients must be $0$. That is,
$$Re(aoverlinec)=Re(aoverlined+boverlinec)=Re(boverlined)=0tag2$$
Let us assume that $cneq0.$ Then we may divide numerator and denominator in $(1)$ by $c$, or what is the same thing, we may assume that $c=1,$ so $(2)$ becomes
$$Re(a)=Re(aoverlined+b)=Re(boverlined)=0tag3$$
From $c=1$ we have $T(-d)=infty,$ but $infty$ is on the imaginary axis so $dinmathbfR,$ and from $(3),$ we have $Re a=0$ and $Re(ad+b)=0,$ so that $Re b = 0.$ That is,
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betaz+d, text where alpha,beta,dinmathbfR, alpha d -betaneq0$$
which can obviously be re-written more symmetrically as
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betagamma z+ delta, text where alpha,beta,gamma deltainmathbfR, alphadelta-betagammaneq=0$$
However, this leaves open the possibility that $T$ maps the upper half-plane to the $left$ half-plane.
This leaves you with two things to do. First, finish off the $cneq0$ case. (Hint: $Re T(i)>0$.) Second, do the (easier) $c=0$ case.
I feel that there must be an easier way of seeing this, but I've not been able to find one.
1
Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
17 hours ago
@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
– saulspatz
17 hours ago
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I think I've got it. The transformation $T$ must take the boundary of the upper half-plane to the boundary of the right half-plane. That is, it must take the real axis to the imaginary axis. If $$T(z)=az+bover cz +d, ad-bcneq=0,tag1$$ we have that $xinmathbfR$ implies $$Refrac(ax+b)overline(cx+d)cx+d=0impliesRe(ax+b)overline(cx+d)=0$$
Now for given, $a,b,c,dinmathbfC, Re(ax+b)overline(cx+d)$ is a quadratic in $x$ that vanishes everywhere, so all the coefficients must be $0$. That is,
$$Re(aoverlinec)=Re(aoverlined+boverlinec)=Re(boverlined)=0tag2$$
Let us assume that $cneq0.$ Then we may divide numerator and denominator in $(1)$ by $c$, or what is the same thing, we may assume that $c=1,$ so $(2)$ becomes
$$Re(a)=Re(aoverlined+b)=Re(boverlined)=0tag3$$
From $c=1$ we have $T(-d)=infty,$ but $infty$ is on the imaginary axis so $dinmathbfR,$ and from $(3),$ we have $Re a=0$ and $Re(ad+b)=0,$ so that $Re b = 0.$ That is,
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betaz+d, text where alpha,beta,dinmathbfR, alpha d -betaneq0$$
which can obviously be re-written more symmetrically as
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betagamma z+ delta, text where alpha,beta,gamma deltainmathbfR, alphadelta-betagammaneq=0$$
However, this leaves open the possibility that $T$ maps the upper half-plane to the $left$ half-plane.
This leaves you with two things to do. First, finish off the $cneq0$ case. (Hint: $Re T(i)>0$.) Second, do the (easier) $c=0$ case.
I feel that there must be an easier way of seeing this, but I've not been able to find one.
I think I've got it. The transformation $T$ must take the boundary of the upper half-plane to the boundary of the right half-plane. That is, it must take the real axis to the imaginary axis. If $$T(z)=az+bover cz +d, ad-bcneq=0,tag1$$ we have that $xinmathbfR$ implies $$Refrac(ax+b)overline(cx+d)cx+d=0impliesRe(ax+b)overline(cx+d)=0$$
Now for given, $a,b,c,dinmathbfC, Re(ax+b)overline(cx+d)$ is a quadratic in $x$ that vanishes everywhere, so all the coefficients must be $0$. That is,
$$Re(aoverlinec)=Re(aoverlined+boverlinec)=Re(boverlined)=0tag2$$
Let us assume that $cneq0.$ Then we may divide numerator and denominator in $(1)$ by $c$, or what is the same thing, we may assume that $c=1,$ so $(2)$ becomes
$$Re(a)=Re(aoverlined+b)=Re(boverlined)=0tag3$$
From $c=1$ we have $T(-d)=infty,$ but $infty$ is on the imaginary axis so $dinmathbfR,$ and from $(3),$ we have $Re a=0$ and $Re(ad+b)=0,$ so that $Re b = 0.$ That is,
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betaz+d, text where alpha,beta,dinmathbfR, alpha d -betaneq0$$
which can obviously be re-written more symmetrically as
$$T(z) = ifracalpha z+betagamma z+ delta, text where alpha,beta,gamma deltainmathbfR, alphadelta-betagammaneq=0$$
However, this leaves open the possibility that $T$ maps the upper half-plane to the $left$ half-plane.
This leaves you with two things to do. First, finish off the $cneq0$ case. (Hint: $Re T(i)>0$.) Second, do the (easier) $c=0$ case.
I feel that there must be an easier way of seeing this, but I've not been able to find one.
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Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
17 hours ago
@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
– saulspatz
17 hours ago
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1
Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
17 hours ago
@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
– saulspatz
17 hours ago
1
1
Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
17 hours ago
Might be easier to start with the mapping of the upper half-plane to itself and then multiply by $-i$. From the formula for a linear-fractional transform mapping $z_1, z_2, z_3$ to $w_1, w_2, w_3$, we obtain that mappings of the real line to itself are given by $(a z + b)/(c z + d)$ with $a, b, c, d$ real. The condition that the direction is preserved is given by $T'(z) > 0$ for real $z$, or $a d - b c > 0$.
– Maxim
17 hours ago
@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
– saulspatz
17 hours ago
@Maxim T I don't have time to consider this closely just now, but on a quick read, it sounds goo. I'll think about it later. Thanks.
– saulspatz
17 hours ago
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How about you just rotate the plane?
– quid♦
yesterday
@quid Ok, Am I going to use this transformation $T(z)=e^itheta_0z$ then?.
– Isa
yesterday
Yes. And what is $theta_0$?
– David G. Stork
yesterday
@DavidG.Stork it's the angle of rotation, the principal argument
– Isa
yesterday
1
I'd be glad to tell you if I knew how. A Möbius transformation $T$ is of the form $$T(z) =az+bover cz+d$$ where $ad-bcneq 0,$ so the question apparently asks for conditions on $a,b,c,d.$ It looks easy if $c=0$ -- just a straightforward elaboration of the answers given in the comments -- but I haven't been able to either handle the $cneq0$ case or to prove that $c=0.$
– saulspatz
yesterday