In a tensor category, does $Xotimes Ycong 0$ imply $Ycong 0$ for non-zero $X$?

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By a tensor category I mean a locally finite rigid $k$-linear abelian category with bilinear tensor product, and such that $operatornameHom(1,1)cong k$.$^1$




Suppose we fix some non-zero object $X$ in such a category, and we take any old object $Y$. Can we conclude from $Xotimes Y cong 0$ that $Y$ has to be zero?




I know that in this setting the tensor product is (bi)exact. And I think the statement would be obvious if $otimes$ would reflect isomorphisms, but I don't feel it does.



Any hints?




$^1$ This question really only needs rigid abelian with bilinear $otimes$







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    No, this is already false in $textVect times textVect$ with the pointwise tensor product.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 8:14






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    $mathrmVect$ is fd VS I assume, what do you mean by "pointwise tensor product" - $(V_1,V_2)otimes (W_1,W_2) equiv (V_1otimes W_1, V_2otimes W_2)$? Then the zero is $(0,0)$, and with $(V,0)$ and $(0,W)$, we get $(V,0)otimes (0,W)cong (0,0)$, right?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:27










  • @QiaochuYuan: I forgot to ping, I hope it's alright I'm doing it now. Is the above the argument you had in mind?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:51






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    Yes, that's right.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 9:04














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By a tensor category I mean a locally finite rigid $k$-linear abelian category with bilinear tensor product, and such that $operatornameHom(1,1)cong k$.$^1$




Suppose we fix some non-zero object $X$ in such a category, and we take any old object $Y$. Can we conclude from $Xotimes Y cong 0$ that $Y$ has to be zero?




I know that in this setting the tensor product is (bi)exact. And I think the statement would be obvious if $otimes$ would reflect isomorphisms, but I don't feel it does.



Any hints?




$^1$ This question really only needs rigid abelian with bilinear $otimes$







share|cite|improve this question

















  • 2




    No, this is already false in $textVect times textVect$ with the pointwise tensor product.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 8:14






  • 1




    $mathrmVect$ is fd VS I assume, what do you mean by "pointwise tensor product" - $(V_1,V_2)otimes (W_1,W_2) equiv (V_1otimes W_1, V_2otimes W_2)$? Then the zero is $(0,0)$, and with $(V,0)$ and $(0,W)$, we get $(V,0)otimes (0,W)cong (0,0)$, right?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:27










  • @QiaochuYuan: I forgot to ping, I hope it's alright I'm doing it now. Is the above the argument you had in mind?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:51






  • 1




    Yes, that's right.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 9:04












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By a tensor category I mean a locally finite rigid $k$-linear abelian category with bilinear tensor product, and such that $operatornameHom(1,1)cong k$.$^1$




Suppose we fix some non-zero object $X$ in such a category, and we take any old object $Y$. Can we conclude from $Xotimes Y cong 0$ that $Y$ has to be zero?




I know that in this setting the tensor product is (bi)exact. And I think the statement would be obvious if $otimes$ would reflect isomorphisms, but I don't feel it does.



Any hints?




$^1$ This question really only needs rigid abelian with bilinear $otimes$







share|cite|improve this question













By a tensor category I mean a locally finite rigid $k$-linear abelian category with bilinear tensor product, and such that $operatornameHom(1,1)cong k$.$^1$




Suppose we fix some non-zero object $X$ in such a category, and we take any old object $Y$. Can we conclude from $Xotimes Y cong 0$ that $Y$ has to be zero?




I know that in this setting the tensor product is (bi)exact. And I think the statement would be obvious if $otimes$ would reflect isomorphisms, but I don't feel it does.



Any hints?




$^1$ This question really only needs rigid abelian with bilinear $otimes$









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    No, this is already false in $textVect times textVect$ with the pointwise tensor product.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 8:14






  • 1




    $mathrmVect$ is fd VS I assume, what do you mean by "pointwise tensor product" - $(V_1,V_2)otimes (W_1,W_2) equiv (V_1otimes W_1, V_2otimes W_2)$? Then the zero is $(0,0)$, and with $(V,0)$ and $(0,W)$, we get $(V,0)otimes (0,W)cong (0,0)$, right?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:27










  • @QiaochuYuan: I forgot to ping, I hope it's alright I'm doing it now. Is the above the argument you had in mind?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:51






  • 1




    Yes, that's right.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 9:04












  • 2




    No, this is already false in $textVect times textVect$ with the pointwise tensor product.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 8:14






  • 1




    $mathrmVect$ is fd VS I assume, what do you mean by "pointwise tensor product" - $(V_1,V_2)otimes (W_1,W_2) equiv (V_1otimes W_1, V_2otimes W_2)$? Then the zero is $(0,0)$, and with $(V,0)$ and $(0,W)$, we get $(V,0)otimes (0,W)cong (0,0)$, right?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:27










  • @QiaochuYuan: I forgot to ping, I hope it's alright I'm doing it now. Is the above the argument you had in mind?
    – Jo Be
    Jul 26 at 8:51






  • 1




    Yes, that's right.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Jul 26 at 9:04







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No, this is already false in $textVect times textVect$ with the pointwise tensor product.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Jul 26 at 8:14




No, this is already false in $textVect times textVect$ with the pointwise tensor product.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Jul 26 at 8:14




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$mathrmVect$ is fd VS I assume, what do you mean by "pointwise tensor product" - $(V_1,V_2)otimes (W_1,W_2) equiv (V_1otimes W_1, V_2otimes W_2)$? Then the zero is $(0,0)$, and with $(V,0)$ and $(0,W)$, we get $(V,0)otimes (0,W)cong (0,0)$, right?
– Jo Be
Jul 26 at 8:27




$mathrmVect$ is fd VS I assume, what do you mean by "pointwise tensor product" - $(V_1,V_2)otimes (W_1,W_2) equiv (V_1otimes W_1, V_2otimes W_2)$? Then the zero is $(0,0)$, and with $(V,0)$ and $(0,W)$, we get $(V,0)otimes (0,W)cong (0,0)$, right?
– Jo Be
Jul 26 at 8:27












@QiaochuYuan: I forgot to ping, I hope it's alright I'm doing it now. Is the above the argument you had in mind?
– Jo Be
Jul 26 at 8:51




@QiaochuYuan: I forgot to ping, I hope it's alright I'm doing it now. Is the above the argument you had in mind?
– Jo Be
Jul 26 at 8:51




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Yes, that's right.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Jul 26 at 9:04




Yes, that's right.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Jul 26 at 9:04















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