Is $operatornameHom(E,M)$ simple as an $operatornameEnd(M)$-module if $E$ is simple?

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Let $R$ be a ring, let $M$ be an $R$-module and let $R' := operatornameEnd_R(M)$.
Let $E$ be a simple $R$-module with $operatornameHom_R(E,M) neq 0$.




Question:
Is $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ simple as an $R'$-module?




Background:
While trying to understand (a version of) the double centralizer theorem I learned that the $E$-isotypical component of $M$ can be described as $M_E cong operatornameHom_R(E,M) otimes_operatornameEnd_R(E) E$ as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module.
Because $M_E$ is simple as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module I am wondering about the $R'$-simplicity of the tensor factor $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$.



I think the statement holds if $M$ is semisimple:
We can then assume that $M = M_E cong E^oplus I$ for some index set $I$ (because every $R$-endomorphism of $M_E$ extends to an $R$-endomorphism of $M$).
For the skew field $D := operatornameEnd_R(E)$ we then have that $R' cong operatornameM_I(D)$ (the algebra of column-finite $(I times I)$-matrices) and $operatornameHom_R(E,M) cong D^oplus I$, with $operatornameM_I(D)$ acting transitively on $D^oplus I smallsetminus 0$.



I assume that the statement does not hold for general $M$, but I haven’t found a counterexample.



Any help is welcome.







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    Let $R$ be a ring, let $M$ be an $R$-module and let $R' := operatornameEnd_R(M)$.
    Let $E$ be a simple $R$-module with $operatornameHom_R(E,M) neq 0$.




    Question:
    Is $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ simple as an $R'$-module?




    Background:
    While trying to understand (a version of) the double centralizer theorem I learned that the $E$-isotypical component of $M$ can be described as $M_E cong operatornameHom_R(E,M) otimes_operatornameEnd_R(E) E$ as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module.
    Because $M_E$ is simple as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module I am wondering about the $R'$-simplicity of the tensor factor $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$.



    I think the statement holds if $M$ is semisimple:
    We can then assume that $M = M_E cong E^oplus I$ for some index set $I$ (because every $R$-endomorphism of $M_E$ extends to an $R$-endomorphism of $M$).
    For the skew field $D := operatornameEnd_R(E)$ we then have that $R' cong operatornameM_I(D)$ (the algebra of column-finite $(I times I)$-matrices) and $operatornameHom_R(E,M) cong D^oplus I$, with $operatornameM_I(D)$ acting transitively on $D^oplus I smallsetminus 0$.



    I assume that the statement does not hold for general $M$, but I haven’t found a counterexample.



    Any help is welcome.







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      Let $R$ be a ring, let $M$ be an $R$-module and let $R' := operatornameEnd_R(M)$.
      Let $E$ be a simple $R$-module with $operatornameHom_R(E,M) neq 0$.




      Question:
      Is $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ simple as an $R'$-module?




      Background:
      While trying to understand (a version of) the double centralizer theorem I learned that the $E$-isotypical component of $M$ can be described as $M_E cong operatornameHom_R(E,M) otimes_operatornameEnd_R(E) E$ as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module.
      Because $M_E$ is simple as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module I am wondering about the $R'$-simplicity of the tensor factor $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$.



      I think the statement holds if $M$ is semisimple:
      We can then assume that $M = M_E cong E^oplus I$ for some index set $I$ (because every $R$-endomorphism of $M_E$ extends to an $R$-endomorphism of $M$).
      For the skew field $D := operatornameEnd_R(E)$ we then have that $R' cong operatornameM_I(D)$ (the algebra of column-finite $(I times I)$-matrices) and $operatornameHom_R(E,M) cong D^oplus I$, with $operatornameM_I(D)$ acting transitively on $D^oplus I smallsetminus 0$.



      I assume that the statement does not hold for general $M$, but I haven’t found a counterexample.



      Any help is welcome.







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      Let $R$ be a ring, let $M$ be an $R$-module and let $R' := operatornameEnd_R(M)$.
      Let $E$ be a simple $R$-module with $operatornameHom_R(E,M) neq 0$.




      Question:
      Is $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ simple as an $R'$-module?




      Background:
      While trying to understand (a version of) the double centralizer theorem I learned that the $E$-isotypical component of $M$ can be described as $M_E cong operatornameHom_R(E,M) otimes_operatornameEnd_R(E) E$ as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module.
      Because $M_E$ is simple as an $(R' otimes_mathbbZ R)$-module I am wondering about the $R'$-simplicity of the tensor factor $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$.



      I think the statement holds if $M$ is semisimple:
      We can then assume that $M = M_E cong E^oplus I$ for some index set $I$ (because every $R$-endomorphism of $M_E$ extends to an $R$-endomorphism of $M$).
      For the skew field $D := operatornameEnd_R(E)$ we then have that $R' cong operatornameM_I(D)$ (the algebra of column-finite $(I times I)$-matrices) and $operatornameHom_R(E,M) cong D^oplus I$, with $operatornameM_I(D)$ acting transitively on $D^oplus I smallsetminus 0$.



      I assume that the statement does not hold for general $M$, but I haven’t found a counterexample.



      Any help is welcome.









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          Let $k$ be a field, let $R=k[x,y]$, and let $I$ be the maximal ideal $(x,y)subset R$. Let $M=R/I^2$, and let $E=R/I$. Then $R'$ is just the quotient ring $R/I^2$ and $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ is naturally identified with $I/I^2$. This is not a simple $R'$-module, since $x$ and $y$ act trivially on it so that submodules are the same thing as $k$-subspaces, and $dim_k I/I^2=2$ ($x$ and $y$ are a basis).



          (The key point is that the submodule $N$ of $M$ spanned by copies of $E$ is a direct sum of copies of $E$, but not every $operatornameEnd_R(E)$-endomorphism of it extends to an endomorphism of $M$. In this case, $Ncong E^2$ and $operatornameEnd_R(E)cong k$, but $R'$ only contains the diagonal action of $k$ on $E^2$, not the full $M_2(k)$ action, since in $M$ the two copies of $E$ in $N$ are actually both multiples of a single generator over $R$.)






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            Let $k$ be a field, let $R=k[x,y]$, and let $I$ be the maximal ideal $(x,y)subset R$. Let $M=R/I^2$, and let $E=R/I$. Then $R'$ is just the quotient ring $R/I^2$ and $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ is naturally identified with $I/I^2$. This is not a simple $R'$-module, since $x$ and $y$ act trivially on it so that submodules are the same thing as $k$-subspaces, and $dim_k I/I^2=2$ ($x$ and $y$ are a basis).



            (The key point is that the submodule $N$ of $M$ spanned by copies of $E$ is a direct sum of copies of $E$, but not every $operatornameEnd_R(E)$-endomorphism of it extends to an endomorphism of $M$. In this case, $Ncong E^2$ and $operatornameEnd_R(E)cong k$, but $R'$ only contains the diagonal action of $k$ on $E^2$, not the full $M_2(k)$ action, since in $M$ the two copies of $E$ in $N$ are actually both multiples of a single generator over $R$.)






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              Let $k$ be a field, let $R=k[x,y]$, and let $I$ be the maximal ideal $(x,y)subset R$. Let $M=R/I^2$, and let $E=R/I$. Then $R'$ is just the quotient ring $R/I^2$ and $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ is naturally identified with $I/I^2$. This is not a simple $R'$-module, since $x$ and $y$ act trivially on it so that submodules are the same thing as $k$-subspaces, and $dim_k I/I^2=2$ ($x$ and $y$ are a basis).



              (The key point is that the submodule $N$ of $M$ spanned by copies of $E$ is a direct sum of copies of $E$, but not every $operatornameEnd_R(E)$-endomorphism of it extends to an endomorphism of $M$. In this case, $Ncong E^2$ and $operatornameEnd_R(E)cong k$, but $R'$ only contains the diagonal action of $k$ on $E^2$, not the full $M_2(k)$ action, since in $M$ the two copies of $E$ in $N$ are actually both multiples of a single generator over $R$.)






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                Let $k$ be a field, let $R=k[x,y]$, and let $I$ be the maximal ideal $(x,y)subset R$. Let $M=R/I^2$, and let $E=R/I$. Then $R'$ is just the quotient ring $R/I^2$ and $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ is naturally identified with $I/I^2$. This is not a simple $R'$-module, since $x$ and $y$ act trivially on it so that submodules are the same thing as $k$-subspaces, and $dim_k I/I^2=2$ ($x$ and $y$ are a basis).



                (The key point is that the submodule $N$ of $M$ spanned by copies of $E$ is a direct sum of copies of $E$, but not every $operatornameEnd_R(E)$-endomorphism of it extends to an endomorphism of $M$. In this case, $Ncong E^2$ and $operatornameEnd_R(E)cong k$, but $R'$ only contains the diagonal action of $k$ on $E^2$, not the full $M_2(k)$ action, since in $M$ the two copies of $E$ in $N$ are actually both multiples of a single generator over $R$.)






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                Let $k$ be a field, let $R=k[x,y]$, and let $I$ be the maximal ideal $(x,y)subset R$. Let $M=R/I^2$, and let $E=R/I$. Then $R'$ is just the quotient ring $R/I^2$ and $operatornameHom_R(E,M)$ is naturally identified with $I/I^2$. This is not a simple $R'$-module, since $x$ and $y$ act trivially on it so that submodules are the same thing as $k$-subspaces, and $dim_k I/I^2=2$ ($x$ and $y$ are a basis).



                (The key point is that the submodule $N$ of $M$ spanned by copies of $E$ is a direct sum of copies of $E$, but not every $operatornameEnd_R(E)$-endomorphism of it extends to an endomorphism of $M$. In this case, $Ncong E^2$ and $operatornameEnd_R(E)cong k$, but $R'$ only contains the diagonal action of $k$ on $E^2$, not the full $M_2(k)$ action, since in $M$ the two copies of $E$ in $N$ are actually both multiples of a single generator over $R$.)







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