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Currently, I am occupying myself with (non-applied perspectives on) Persistent Homology, having a background in non-applied maths (representation theory).
After having spent some time on the topic however, it seems to me that this field is already very grazed, leading to the following:
Question: Which new mathematical insights can be attributed to this field, if any? Should one expect that there will be any? Or should I predominantly expect applications on actual data-driven problems?
Concerns:
By a persistent module $M$, it seems that one understands a graded $k[x]$-module (or, more general, a graded module over the ring $bigoplus_mathbf R_geq 0 k$ with grading in a monoid). The fundamental theorem of persistent homology states that $M$ decomposes as a direct sum of interval modules $k_[i, j)$, which is the module whose degree-$l$-part is $k$ if $lin[i, j)$ and zero otherwise.
This is just the classification of f.g. modules over a PID; haven't they been aware of this?
A neat generalisation is to consider general posets for the grading, and not only $mathbf Z$ or $mathbf R$. To this end, one considers the $k[x]$-module $M$ as a representation of the category $mathbf Z$ with morphisms $ileq j$; Bubenik/Scott and Bauer/Lesnick takes some effort to develop a categorical view on persistent homology.
Are there any researchers pursuing this further? Until now, I have only found articals that employ this neat formalism of abstraction, without going beyond the basics in persistent homology.
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Currently, I am occupying myself with (non-applied perspectives on) Persistent Homology, having a background in non-applied maths (representation theory).
After having spent some time on the topic however, it seems to me that this field is already very grazed, leading to the following:
Question: Which new mathematical insights can be attributed to this field, if any? Should one expect that there will be any? Or should I predominantly expect applications on actual data-driven problems?
Concerns:
By a persistent module $M$, it seems that one understands a graded $k[x]$-module (or, more general, a graded module over the ring $bigoplus_mathbf R_geq 0 k$ with grading in a monoid). The fundamental theorem of persistent homology states that $M$ decomposes as a direct sum of interval modules $k_[i, j)$, which is the module whose degree-$l$-part is $k$ if $lin[i, j)$ and zero otherwise.
This is just the classification of f.g. modules over a PID; haven't they been aware of this?
A neat generalisation is to consider general posets for the grading, and not only $mathbf Z$ or $mathbf R$. To this end, one considers the $k[x]$-module $M$ as a representation of the category $mathbf Z$ with morphisms $ileq j$; Bubenik/Scott and Bauer/Lesnick takes some effort to develop a categorical view on persistent homology.
Are there any researchers pursuing this further? Until now, I have only found articals that employ this neat formalism of abstraction, without going beyond the basics in persistent homology.
soft-question data-analysis research
asked Jul 20 at 21:49
Hans Dieter
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closed as too broad by Will Jagy, max_zorn, Xander Henderson, Parcly Taxel, Shailesh Jul 21 at 9:28
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I cannot parse what your first question is asking: "So, is it realistic that there are any proper insights about do come in the field around persistent homolgy/TDA?" Specifically, did you intend to write the words I italicized? Or is it a typo, so perhaps that phrase should be about to come?
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Jul 20 at 22:01
@amWhy The phrase would have been "about to come". Rephrased the question.
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Jul 22 at 21:47
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Currently, I am occupying myself with (non-applied perspectives on) Persistent Homology, having a background in non-applied maths (representation theory).
After having spent some time on the topic however, it seems to me that this field is already very grazed, leading to the following:
Question: Which new mathematical insights can be attributed to this field, if any? Should one expect that there will be any? Or should I predominantly expect applications on actual data-driven problems?
Concerns:
By a persistent module $M$, it seems that one understands a graded $k[x]$-module (or, more general, a graded module over the ring $bigoplus_mathbf R_geq 0 k$ with grading in a monoid). The fundamental theorem of persistent homology states that $M$ decomposes as a direct sum of interval modules $k_[i, j)$, which is the module whose degree-$l$-part is $k$ if $lin[i, j)$ and zero otherwise.
This is just the classification of f.g. modules over a PID; haven't they been aware of this?
A neat generalisation is to consider general posets for the grading, and not only $mathbf Z$ or $mathbf R$. To this end, one considers the $k[x]$-module $M$ as a representation of the category $mathbf Z$ with morphisms $ileq j$; Bubenik/Scott and Bauer/Lesnick takes some effort to develop a categorical view on persistent homology.
Are there any researchers pursuing this further? Until now, I have only found articals that employ this neat formalism of abstraction, without going beyond the basics in persistent homology.
soft-question data-analysis research
asked Jul 20 at 21:49
Hans Dieter
262
Currently, I am occupying myself with (non-applied perspectives on) Persistent Homology, having a background in non-applied maths (representation theory).
After having spent some time on the topic however, it seems to me that this field is already very grazed, leading to the following:
Question: Which new mathematical insights can be attributed to this field, if any? Should one expect that there will be any? Or should I predominantly expect applications on actual data-driven problems?
Concerns:
By a persistent module $M$, it seems that one understands a graded $k[x]$-module (or, more general, a graded module over the ring $bigoplus_mathbf R_geq 0 k$ with grading in a monoid). The fundamental theorem of persistent homology states that $M$ decomposes as a direct sum of interval modules $k_[i, j)$, which is the module whose degree-$l$-part is $k$ if $lin[i, j)$ and zero otherwise.
This is just the classification of f.g. modules over a PID; haven't they been aware of this?
A neat generalisation is to consider general posets for the grading, and not only $mathbf Z$ or $mathbf R$. To this end, one considers the $k[x]$-module $M$ as a representation of the category $mathbf Z$ with morphisms $ileq j$; Bubenik/Scott and Bauer/Lesnick takes some effort to develop a categorical view on persistent homology.
Are there any researchers pursuing this further? Until now, I have only found articals that employ this neat formalism of abstraction, without going beyond the basics in persistent homology.
soft-question data-analysis research
asked Jul 20 at 21:49
Hans Dieter
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closed as too broad by Will Jagy, max_zorn, Xander Henderson, Parcly Taxel, Shailesh Jul 21 at 9:28
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closed as too broad by Will Jagy, max_zorn, Xander Henderson, Parcly Taxel, Shailesh Jul 21 at 9:28
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I cannot parse what your first question is asking: "So, is it realistic that there are any proper insights about do come in the field around persistent homolgy/TDA?" Specifically, did you intend to write the words I italicized? Or is it a typo, so perhaps that phrase should be about to come?
– amWhy
Jul 20 at 22:01
@amWhy The phrase would have been "about to come". Rephrased the question.
– Hans Dieter
Jul 22 at 21:47
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I cannot parse what your first question is asking: "So, is it realistic that there are any proper insights about do come in the field around persistent homolgy/TDA?" Specifically, did you intend to write the words I italicized? Or is it a typo, so perhaps that phrase should be about to come?
– amWhy
Jul 20 at 22:01
@amWhy The phrase would have been "about to come". Rephrased the question.
– Hans Dieter
Jul 22 at 21:47
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I cannot parse what your first question is asking: "So, is it realistic that there are any proper insights about do come in the field around persistent homolgy/TDA?" Specifically, did you intend to write the words I italicized? Or is it a typo, so perhaps that phrase should be about to come?
– amWhy
Jul 20 at 22:01
I cannot parse what your first question is asking: "So, is it realistic that there are any proper insights about do come in the field around persistent homolgy/TDA?" Specifically, did you intend to write the words I italicized? Or is it a typo, so perhaps that phrase should be about to come?
– amWhy
Jul 20 at 22:01
@amWhy The phrase would have been "about to come". Rephrased the question.
– Hans Dieter
Jul 22 at 21:47
@amWhy The phrase would have been "about to come". Rephrased the question.
– Hans Dieter
Jul 22 at 21:47
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I cannot parse what your first question is asking: "So, is it realistic that there are any proper insights about do come in the field around persistent homolgy/TDA?" Specifically, did you intend to write the words I italicized? Or is it a typo, so perhaps that phrase should be about to come?
– amWhy
Jul 20 at 22:01
@amWhy The phrase would have been "about to come". Rephrased the question.
– Hans Dieter
Jul 22 at 21:47