Kuratowski's theorem in every case?

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I have the following graph $G$ (from Chartrand and Zhang, page 235, figure 9.9) figure 9.9, a nonplanar graph



which is based on a maximal planar graph on 7 vertices with an additional edge (labeled $uv$). This graph is nonplanar because $m>3n-6$. Also, this graph does not contain either $K_3,3$ or $K_5$ as a subgraph (this is proved in the text). My question is why doesn't this contradict Kuratowski's theorem? Shouldn't there be a subdivision of one of these contained in $G$? But there are no vertices of degree two in this graph, so I'm not sure what subgraph I can take to build either of the critical graphs. I know the subgraph needs the edge $uv$, but that's all I know.



At this point in the text, contractions haven't been discussed, and subdivisions were just introduced, so I'm not sure how to proceed.







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    I have the following graph $G$ (from Chartrand and Zhang, page 235, figure 9.9) figure 9.9, a nonplanar graph



    which is based on a maximal planar graph on 7 vertices with an additional edge (labeled $uv$). This graph is nonplanar because $m>3n-6$. Also, this graph does not contain either $K_3,3$ or $K_5$ as a subgraph (this is proved in the text). My question is why doesn't this contradict Kuratowski's theorem? Shouldn't there be a subdivision of one of these contained in $G$? But there are no vertices of degree two in this graph, so I'm not sure what subgraph I can take to build either of the critical graphs. I know the subgraph needs the edge $uv$, but that's all I know.



    At this point in the text, contractions haven't been discussed, and subdivisions were just introduced, so I'm not sure how to proceed.







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      I have the following graph $G$ (from Chartrand and Zhang, page 235, figure 9.9) figure 9.9, a nonplanar graph



      which is based on a maximal planar graph on 7 vertices with an additional edge (labeled $uv$). This graph is nonplanar because $m>3n-6$. Also, this graph does not contain either $K_3,3$ or $K_5$ as a subgraph (this is proved in the text). My question is why doesn't this contradict Kuratowski's theorem? Shouldn't there be a subdivision of one of these contained in $G$? But there are no vertices of degree two in this graph, so I'm not sure what subgraph I can take to build either of the critical graphs. I know the subgraph needs the edge $uv$, but that's all I know.



      At this point in the text, contractions haven't been discussed, and subdivisions were just introduced, so I'm not sure how to proceed.







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      I have the following graph $G$ (from Chartrand and Zhang, page 235, figure 9.9) figure 9.9, a nonplanar graph



      which is based on a maximal planar graph on 7 vertices with an additional edge (labeled $uv$). This graph is nonplanar because $m>3n-6$. Also, this graph does not contain either $K_3,3$ or $K_5$ as a subgraph (this is proved in the text). My question is why doesn't this contradict Kuratowski's theorem? Shouldn't there be a subdivision of one of these contained in $G$? But there are no vertices of degree two in this graph, so I'm not sure what subgraph I can take to build either of the critical graphs. I know the subgraph needs the edge $uv$, but that's all I know.



      At this point in the text, contractions haven't been discussed, and subdivisions were just introduced, so I'm not sure how to proceed.









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          There is a subdivided $K_3,3$ embedded in this graph. Each of $u,z,s$ are connected to each of $v,t,y$ by distinct edges of your graph, except that $u$ and $y$ are connected the two edge path $uxy$.






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          • It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
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          $u,s,x,v,t$ forms a subdivision of $K_5$ in the graph. This can be formed by deleting the edges from $y$ and $z$ to $s$ and $t$, then smoothing out the path $xyzv$.






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          • Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
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          Check again the statement of Kuratowski's theorem. It does not talk about subgraphs, but some kind of graph minors. This example is a perfect illustration why Kuratowski's theorem SHOULD NOT talk about subgraphs.






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          • Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
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          There is a subdivided $K_3,3$ embedded in this graph. Each of $u,z,s$ are connected to each of $v,t,y$ by distinct edges of your graph, except that $u$ and $y$ are connected the two edge path $uxy$.






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          • It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07














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          There is a subdivided $K_3,3$ embedded in this graph. Each of $u,z,s$ are connected to each of $v,t,y$ by distinct edges of your graph, except that $u$ and $y$ are connected the two edge path $uxy$.






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          • It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07












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          There is a subdivided $K_3,3$ embedded in this graph. Each of $u,z,s$ are connected to each of $v,t,y$ by distinct edges of your graph, except that $u$ and $y$ are connected the two edge path $uxy$.






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          There is a subdivided $K_3,3$ embedded in this graph. Each of $u,z,s$ are connected to each of $v,t,y$ by distinct edges of your graph, except that $u$ and $y$ are connected the two edge path $uxy$.







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          • It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07
















          • It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07















          It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
          – Joshua Sasmor
          Jul 21 at 18:07




          It took me about 45 minutes to follow the examples in the text, and now I think I understand the subgraph/subdivision distinction. I found this $K_3,3$ and then came back to find your answer - thank you!
          – Joshua Sasmor
          Jul 21 at 18:07










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          $u,s,x,v,t$ forms a subdivision of $K_5$ in the graph. This can be formed by deleting the edges from $y$ and $z$ to $s$ and $t$, then smoothing out the path $xyzv$.






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          • Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07














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          $u,s,x,v,t$ forms a subdivision of $K_5$ in the graph. This can be formed by deleting the edges from $y$ and $z$ to $s$ and $t$, then smoothing out the path $xyzv$.






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          • Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07












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          $u,s,x,v,t$ forms a subdivision of $K_5$ in the graph. This can be formed by deleting the edges from $y$ and $z$ to $s$ and $t$, then smoothing out the path $xyzv$.






          share|cite|improve this answer













          $u,s,x,v,t$ forms a subdivision of $K_5$ in the graph. This can be formed by deleting the edges from $y$ and $z$ to $s$ and $t$, then smoothing out the path $xyzv$.







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          • Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07
















          • Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:07















          Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
          – Joshua Sasmor
          Jul 21 at 18:07




          Thank you - this was helpful - I found a $K_3,3$, but I wasn't sure about the $K_5$.
          – Joshua Sasmor
          Jul 21 at 18:07










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          Check again the statement of Kuratowski's theorem. It does not talk about subgraphs, but some kind of graph minors. This example is a perfect illustration why Kuratowski's theorem SHOULD NOT talk about subgraphs.






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          • Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:06














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          Check again the statement of Kuratowski's theorem. It does not talk about subgraphs, but some kind of graph minors. This example is a perfect illustration why Kuratowski's theorem SHOULD NOT talk about subgraphs.






          share|cite|improve this answer





















          • Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:06












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          Check again the statement of Kuratowski's theorem. It does not talk about subgraphs, but some kind of graph minors. This example is a perfect illustration why Kuratowski's theorem SHOULD NOT talk about subgraphs.






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          Check again the statement of Kuratowski's theorem. It does not talk about subgraphs, but some kind of graph minors. This example is a perfect illustration why Kuratowski's theorem SHOULD NOT talk about subgraphs.







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          • Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:06
















          • Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
            – Joshua Sasmor
            Jul 21 at 18:06















          Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
          – Joshua Sasmor
          Jul 21 at 18:06




          Thank you - it calls for a "subdivision of $K_3,3$ or $K_5$" I wasn't sure how to find that.
          – Joshua Sasmor
          Jul 21 at 18:06












           

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