Prove positivity of $f$ when $f'' > f$ [duplicate]

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
4
down vote

favorite
2













This question already has an answer here:



  • If $,f''(x) ge f(x)$, for all $xin[0,infty),$ and $,f(0)=f'(0)=1$, then is $,f(x)>0$?

    1 answer



I'm given that $f:mathbbR to mathbbR$ is twice differentiable and $f(0) = f'(0) =1$. Assuming that $f''(x) > f(x)$ everywhere show that $f(x) > 0$ for all $x$.



I know that $f$ and $f’$ are continuous ($f’’$ exists). Since $f(0) = f’(0)= 1$ there is some $delta > 0$ where $f(x), f’(x) > 0$ for $-delta leq x leq delta$. I tried using the second-order Taylor approximation to extend the interval but I cannot see how to show $f(x) > 0$ for all $x < -delta$.







share|cite|improve this question











marked as duplicate by amWhy calculus
Users with the  calculus badge can single-handedly close calculus questions as duplicates and reopen them as needed.

StackExchange.ready(function()
if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;

$('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function()
var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
$msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');

$hover.hover(
function()
$hover.showInfoMessage('',
messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
transient: false,
position: my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 ,
dismissable: false,
relativeToBody: true
);
,
function()
StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();

);
);
);
Jul 21 at 0:47


This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.


















    up vote
    4
    down vote

    favorite
    2













    This question already has an answer here:



    • If $,f''(x) ge f(x)$, for all $xin[0,infty),$ and $,f(0)=f'(0)=1$, then is $,f(x)>0$?

      1 answer



    I'm given that $f:mathbbR to mathbbR$ is twice differentiable and $f(0) = f'(0) =1$. Assuming that $f''(x) > f(x)$ everywhere show that $f(x) > 0$ for all $x$.



    I know that $f$ and $f’$ are continuous ($f’’$ exists). Since $f(0) = f’(0)= 1$ there is some $delta > 0$ where $f(x), f’(x) > 0$ for $-delta leq x leq delta$. I tried using the second-order Taylor approximation to extend the interval but I cannot see how to show $f(x) > 0$ for all $x < -delta$.







    share|cite|improve this question











    marked as duplicate by amWhy calculus
    Users with the  calculus badge can single-handedly close calculus questions as duplicates and reopen them as needed.

    StackExchange.ready(function()
    if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;

    $('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function()
    var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
    $msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');

    $hover.hover(
    function()
    $hover.showInfoMessage('',
    messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
    transient: false,
    position: my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 ,
    dismissable: false,
    relativeToBody: true
    );
    ,
    function()
    StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();

    );
    );
    );
    Jul 21 at 0:47


    This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
















      up vote
      4
      down vote

      favorite
      2









      up vote
      4
      down vote

      favorite
      2






      2






      This question already has an answer here:



      • If $,f''(x) ge f(x)$, for all $xin[0,infty),$ and $,f(0)=f'(0)=1$, then is $,f(x)>0$?

        1 answer



      I'm given that $f:mathbbR to mathbbR$ is twice differentiable and $f(0) = f'(0) =1$. Assuming that $f''(x) > f(x)$ everywhere show that $f(x) > 0$ for all $x$.



      I know that $f$ and $f’$ are continuous ($f’’$ exists). Since $f(0) = f’(0)= 1$ there is some $delta > 0$ where $f(x), f’(x) > 0$ for $-delta leq x leq delta$. I tried using the second-order Taylor approximation to extend the interval but I cannot see how to show $f(x) > 0$ for all $x < -delta$.







      share|cite|improve this question












      This question already has an answer here:



      • If $,f''(x) ge f(x)$, for all $xin[0,infty),$ and $,f(0)=f'(0)=1$, then is $,f(x)>0$?

        1 answer



      I'm given that $f:mathbbR to mathbbR$ is twice differentiable and $f(0) = f'(0) =1$. Assuming that $f''(x) > f(x)$ everywhere show that $f(x) > 0$ for all $x$.



      I know that $f$ and $f’$ are continuous ($f’’$ exists). Since $f(0) = f’(0)= 1$ there is some $delta > 0$ where $f(x), f’(x) > 0$ for $-delta leq x leq delta$. I tried using the second-order Taylor approximation to extend the interval but I cannot see how to show $f(x) > 0$ for all $x < -delta$.





      This question already has an answer here:



      • If $,f''(x) ge f(x)$, for all $xin[0,infty),$ and $,f(0)=f'(0)=1$, then is $,f(x)>0$?

        1 answer









      share|cite|improve this question










      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question









      asked Jul 20 at 20:52









      WoodWorker

      42128




      42128




      marked as duplicate by amWhy calculus
      Users with the  calculus badge can single-handedly close calculus questions as duplicates and reopen them as needed.

      StackExchange.ready(function()
      if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;

      $('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function()
      var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
      $msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');

      $hover.hover(
      function()
      $hover.showInfoMessage('',
      messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
      transient: false,
      position: my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 ,
      dismissable: false,
      relativeToBody: true
      );
      ,
      function()
      StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();

      );
      );
      );
      Jul 21 at 0:47


      This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.






      marked as duplicate by amWhy calculus
      Users with the  calculus badge can single-handedly close calculus questions as duplicates and reopen them as needed.

      StackExchange.ready(function()
      if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;

      $('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function()
      var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
      $msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');

      $hover.hover(
      function()
      $hover.showInfoMessage('',
      messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
      transient: false,
      position: my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 ,
      dismissable: false,
      relativeToBody: true
      );
      ,
      function()
      StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();

      );
      );
      );
      Jul 21 at 0:47


      This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.






















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes

















          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted










          A clue here is that the exponential function equals its second derivative, whereas $f’’ > f$ and, thus, $f$ has greater convexity. Hence, $g(x) = f(x)e^-x$ has a global minimum at $x=0$ where $g(0) = 1$.



          Therefore, $g(x) geqslant 1$, which implies $f(x) geqslant e^x > 0$ for all $x$.



          Details:



          Note that $g'(x) = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^-x = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^x cdot e^-2x $.



          We have, since $f'' >f$,



          $$fracddxleft([f'(x) - f(x)] e^xright) = [f''(x) - f(x)]e^x > 0,$$



          and $[f'(0) - f(0)]e^0 = 0$, showing that $[f'(x)-f(x)]e^x$ and, consequently, $g’(x)$ passes from negative to positive values with $x$ and $g$ has a global minimum at $x = 0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer























          • this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
            – qbert
            Jul 20 at 21:12

















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes








          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes








          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted










          A clue here is that the exponential function equals its second derivative, whereas $f’’ > f$ and, thus, $f$ has greater convexity. Hence, $g(x) = f(x)e^-x$ has a global minimum at $x=0$ where $g(0) = 1$.



          Therefore, $g(x) geqslant 1$, which implies $f(x) geqslant e^x > 0$ for all $x$.



          Details:



          Note that $g'(x) = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^-x = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^x cdot e^-2x $.



          We have, since $f'' >f$,



          $$fracddxleft([f'(x) - f(x)] e^xright) = [f''(x) - f(x)]e^x > 0,$$



          and $[f'(0) - f(0)]e^0 = 0$, showing that $[f'(x)-f(x)]e^x$ and, consequently, $g’(x)$ passes from negative to positive values with $x$ and $g$ has a global minimum at $x = 0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer























          • this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
            – qbert
            Jul 20 at 21:12














          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted










          A clue here is that the exponential function equals its second derivative, whereas $f’’ > f$ and, thus, $f$ has greater convexity. Hence, $g(x) = f(x)e^-x$ has a global minimum at $x=0$ where $g(0) = 1$.



          Therefore, $g(x) geqslant 1$, which implies $f(x) geqslant e^x > 0$ for all $x$.



          Details:



          Note that $g'(x) = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^-x = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^x cdot e^-2x $.



          We have, since $f'' >f$,



          $$fracddxleft([f'(x) - f(x)] e^xright) = [f''(x) - f(x)]e^x > 0,$$



          and $[f'(0) - f(0)]e^0 = 0$, showing that $[f'(x)-f(x)]e^x$ and, consequently, $g’(x)$ passes from negative to positive values with $x$ and $g$ has a global minimum at $x = 0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer























          • this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
            – qbert
            Jul 20 at 21:12












          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
          3
          down vote



          accepted






          A clue here is that the exponential function equals its second derivative, whereas $f’’ > f$ and, thus, $f$ has greater convexity. Hence, $g(x) = f(x)e^-x$ has a global minimum at $x=0$ where $g(0) = 1$.



          Therefore, $g(x) geqslant 1$, which implies $f(x) geqslant e^x > 0$ for all $x$.



          Details:



          Note that $g'(x) = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^-x = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^x cdot e^-2x $.



          We have, since $f'' >f$,



          $$fracddxleft([f'(x) - f(x)] e^xright) = [f''(x) - f(x)]e^x > 0,$$



          and $[f'(0) - f(0)]e^0 = 0$, showing that $[f'(x)-f(x)]e^x$ and, consequently, $g’(x)$ passes from negative to positive values with $x$ and $g$ has a global minimum at $x = 0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer















          A clue here is that the exponential function equals its second derivative, whereas $f’’ > f$ and, thus, $f$ has greater convexity. Hence, $g(x) = f(x)e^-x$ has a global minimum at $x=0$ where $g(0) = 1$.



          Therefore, $g(x) geqslant 1$, which implies $f(x) geqslant e^x > 0$ for all $x$.



          Details:



          Note that $g'(x) = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^-x = [f'(x) - f(x)] e^x cdot e^-2x $.



          We have, since $f'' >f$,



          $$fracddxleft([f'(x) - f(x)] e^xright) = [f''(x) - f(x)]e^x > 0,$$



          and $[f'(0) - f(0)]e^0 = 0$, showing that $[f'(x)-f(x)]e^x$ and, consequently, $g’(x)$ passes from negative to positive values with $x$ and $g$ has a global minimum at $x = 0$.







          share|cite|improve this answer















          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer








          edited Jul 20 at 21:12


























          answered Jul 20 at 21:07









          RRL

          43.7k42260




          43.7k42260











          • this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
            – qbert
            Jul 20 at 21:12
















          • this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
            – qbert
            Jul 20 at 21:12















          this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
          – qbert
          Jul 20 at 21:12




          this is nice and I appreciate the intuition given in the "clue," +1
          – qbert
          Jul 20 at 21:12


          Comments

          Popular posts from this blog

          What is the equation of a 3D cone with generalised tilt?

          Color the edges and diagonals of a regular polygon

          Relationship between determinant of matrix and determinant of adjoint?