Proving Countable Additivity From Finite Additivity

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$J$ is a semialgebra of subsets of a sample space $Omega$ and $mathbbP : J to [0,1]$, with $mathbbP (Omega)=1.$



If $D_j$ is a finite collection of disjoint elements of $J$, such that $bigcup_ j leq n D_j in J$, then $$mathbbP left (bigcup_j leq n D_j right)=sum_ j leq nmathbbP(D_j). qquad (1)$$



Further, for any collection $A_n$, where the $A_i$ are all finite unions of elements of $J$, such that $A_n+1 subseteq A_n$ and $bigcap_n A_n=emptyset$, then $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$




Show that $mathbbP$ also satisfies (1) for countable collections of disjoint sets $D_n$.




[Edit: question removed as counterexample was not applicable, as pointed out by Eric in comments.]



I am also wondering if there is any more general significance to the conditions placed on the collection $A_n$?



I have broken the proof into two parts:




Lemma 1: $mathbbP$ is countably subadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




Proof:



Note that we assume $$ bigcup_jgeq n D_j in J,$$ for all $ngeq 1$.



If we let $$A_n= Big( bigcup_j D_j Big) setminus Big(bigcup_ j leq n D_j Big),$$ then it is not hard to show that the collection $A_n$ satisfies the given criteria to ensure that $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$



We also have that $$A_n = bigcup_j >n D_j.$$



Putting these together, for any $epsilon>0$ we have:



$$ mathbbP left(bigcup_ j leq n D_j right)+mathbbP(A_n)= mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_ j leq n mathbbP (D_j) + epsilon quad (ngeq N),$$



where $N$ is some fixed integer. Thus, we can conclude



$$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



$square$




Lemma 2: $mathbbP$ is countably superadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




Proof:



Let $A,B in J$ such that $A subseteq B$. Since $J$ is a semialgebra, we can write $$A^c=E_1 dot cup E_2 dot cup cdots dot cup E_k,$$
for disjoint $E_1, E_2, cdots, E_k in J$.



By the finite additivity property of $mathbbP$:



$$mathbbP (B) = mathbbP (A) + mathbbP (B cap E_1) + cdots + mathbbP (B cap E_k) geq mathbbP (A).$$



So, for any positive integer $n$, we have



$$mathbbPleft( bigcup_j D_j right ) geq mathbbP left( bigcup_jleq n D_j right) = sum_j leq n mathbbP (D_j).$$



Since this result holds for all $nin mathbbN$, we conclude that $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



$square$







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    $J$ is a semialgebra of subsets of a sample space $Omega$ and $mathbbP : J to [0,1]$, with $mathbbP (Omega)=1.$



    If $D_j$ is a finite collection of disjoint elements of $J$, such that $bigcup_ j leq n D_j in J$, then $$mathbbP left (bigcup_j leq n D_j right)=sum_ j leq nmathbbP(D_j). qquad (1)$$



    Further, for any collection $A_n$, where the $A_i$ are all finite unions of elements of $J$, such that $A_n+1 subseteq A_n$ and $bigcap_n A_n=emptyset$, then $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$




    Show that $mathbbP$ also satisfies (1) for countable collections of disjoint sets $D_n$.




    [Edit: question removed as counterexample was not applicable, as pointed out by Eric in comments.]



    I am also wondering if there is any more general significance to the conditions placed on the collection $A_n$?



    I have broken the proof into two parts:




    Lemma 1: $mathbbP$ is countably subadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




    Proof:



    Note that we assume $$ bigcup_jgeq n D_j in J,$$ for all $ngeq 1$.



    If we let $$A_n= Big( bigcup_j D_j Big) setminus Big(bigcup_ j leq n D_j Big),$$ then it is not hard to show that the collection $A_n$ satisfies the given criteria to ensure that $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$



    We also have that $$A_n = bigcup_j >n D_j.$$



    Putting these together, for any $epsilon>0$ we have:



    $$ mathbbP left(bigcup_ j leq n D_j right)+mathbbP(A_n)= mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_ j leq n mathbbP (D_j) + epsilon quad (ngeq N),$$



    where $N$ is some fixed integer. Thus, we can conclude



    $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



    $square$




    Lemma 2: $mathbbP$ is countably superadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




    Proof:



    Let $A,B in J$ such that $A subseteq B$. Since $J$ is a semialgebra, we can write $$A^c=E_1 dot cup E_2 dot cup cdots dot cup E_k,$$
    for disjoint $E_1, E_2, cdots, E_k in J$.



    By the finite additivity property of $mathbbP$:



    $$mathbbP (B) = mathbbP (A) + mathbbP (B cap E_1) + cdots + mathbbP (B cap E_k) geq mathbbP (A).$$



    So, for any positive integer $n$, we have



    $$mathbbPleft( bigcup_j D_j right ) geq mathbbP left( bigcup_jleq n D_j right) = sum_j leq n mathbbP (D_j).$$



    Since this result holds for all $nin mathbbN$, we conclude that $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



    $square$







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      $J$ is a semialgebra of subsets of a sample space $Omega$ and $mathbbP : J to [0,1]$, with $mathbbP (Omega)=1.$



      If $D_j$ is a finite collection of disjoint elements of $J$, such that $bigcup_ j leq n D_j in J$, then $$mathbbP left (bigcup_j leq n D_j right)=sum_ j leq nmathbbP(D_j). qquad (1)$$



      Further, for any collection $A_n$, where the $A_i$ are all finite unions of elements of $J$, such that $A_n+1 subseteq A_n$ and $bigcap_n A_n=emptyset$, then $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$




      Show that $mathbbP$ also satisfies (1) for countable collections of disjoint sets $D_n$.




      [Edit: question removed as counterexample was not applicable, as pointed out by Eric in comments.]



      I am also wondering if there is any more general significance to the conditions placed on the collection $A_n$?



      I have broken the proof into two parts:




      Lemma 1: $mathbbP$ is countably subadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




      Proof:



      Note that we assume $$ bigcup_jgeq n D_j in J,$$ for all $ngeq 1$.



      If we let $$A_n= Big( bigcup_j D_j Big) setminus Big(bigcup_ j leq n D_j Big),$$ then it is not hard to show that the collection $A_n$ satisfies the given criteria to ensure that $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$



      We also have that $$A_n = bigcup_j >n D_j.$$



      Putting these together, for any $epsilon>0$ we have:



      $$ mathbbP left(bigcup_ j leq n D_j right)+mathbbP(A_n)= mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_ j leq n mathbbP (D_j) + epsilon quad (ngeq N),$$



      where $N$ is some fixed integer. Thus, we can conclude



      $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



      $square$




      Lemma 2: $mathbbP$ is countably superadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




      Proof:



      Let $A,B in J$ such that $A subseteq B$. Since $J$ is a semialgebra, we can write $$A^c=E_1 dot cup E_2 dot cup cdots dot cup E_k,$$
      for disjoint $E_1, E_2, cdots, E_k in J$.



      By the finite additivity property of $mathbbP$:



      $$mathbbP (B) = mathbbP (A) + mathbbP (B cap E_1) + cdots + mathbbP (B cap E_k) geq mathbbP (A).$$



      So, for any positive integer $n$, we have



      $$mathbbPleft( bigcup_j D_j right ) geq mathbbP left( bigcup_jleq n D_j right) = sum_j leq n mathbbP (D_j).$$



      Since this result holds for all $nin mathbbN$, we conclude that $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



      $square$







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      $J$ is a semialgebra of subsets of a sample space $Omega$ and $mathbbP : J to [0,1]$, with $mathbbP (Omega)=1.$



      If $D_j$ is a finite collection of disjoint elements of $J$, such that $bigcup_ j leq n D_j in J$, then $$mathbbP left (bigcup_j leq n D_j right)=sum_ j leq nmathbbP(D_j). qquad (1)$$



      Further, for any collection $A_n$, where the $A_i$ are all finite unions of elements of $J$, such that $A_n+1 subseteq A_n$ and $bigcap_n A_n=emptyset$, then $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$




      Show that $mathbbP$ also satisfies (1) for countable collections of disjoint sets $D_n$.




      [Edit: question removed as counterexample was not applicable, as pointed out by Eric in comments.]



      I am also wondering if there is any more general significance to the conditions placed on the collection $A_n$?



      I have broken the proof into two parts:




      Lemma 1: $mathbbP$ is countably subadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




      Proof:



      Note that we assume $$ bigcup_jgeq n D_j in J,$$ for all $ngeq 1$.



      If we let $$A_n= Big( bigcup_j D_j Big) setminus Big(bigcup_ j leq n D_j Big),$$ then it is not hard to show that the collection $A_n$ satisfies the given criteria to ensure that $$lim_n to infty mathbbP(A_n)=0.$$



      We also have that $$A_n = bigcup_j >n D_j.$$



      Putting these together, for any $epsilon>0$ we have:



      $$ mathbbP left(bigcup_ j leq n D_j right)+mathbbP(A_n)= mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_ j leq n mathbbP (D_j) + epsilon quad (ngeq N),$$



      where $N$ is some fixed integer. Thus, we can conclude



      $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) leq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



      $square$




      Lemma 2: $mathbbP$ is countably superadditive: $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$




      Proof:



      Let $A,B in J$ such that $A subseteq B$. Since $J$ is a semialgebra, we can write $$A^c=E_1 dot cup E_2 dot cup cdots dot cup E_k,$$
      for disjoint $E_1, E_2, cdots, E_k in J$.



      By the finite additivity property of $mathbbP$:



      $$mathbbP (B) = mathbbP (A) + mathbbP (B cap E_1) + cdots + mathbbP (B cap E_k) geq mathbbP (A).$$



      So, for any positive integer $n$, we have



      $$mathbbPleft( bigcup_j D_j right ) geq mathbbP left( bigcup_jleq n D_j right) = sum_j leq n mathbbP (D_j).$$



      Since this result holds for all $nin mathbbN$, we conclude that $$mathbbP left( bigcup_j D_j right) geq sum_j mathbbP (D_j).$$



      $square$









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          The statement you have proved is not the same as the statement in the question you linked! In your statement, the $A_n$ are required only to be finite unions of elements of $J$. In the other question, they are required to be elements of $J$. George's counterexample does not satisfy your stronger hypotheses.



          Your proof appears to me to be correct.






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          • Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
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          The statement you have proved is not the same as the statement in the question you linked! In your statement, the $A_n$ are required only to be finite unions of elements of $J$. In the other question, they are required to be elements of $J$. George's counterexample does not satisfy your stronger hypotheses.



          Your proof appears to me to be correct.






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          • Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
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          The statement you have proved is not the same as the statement in the question you linked! In your statement, the $A_n$ are required only to be finite unions of elements of $J$. In the other question, they are required to be elements of $J$. George's counterexample does not satisfy your stronger hypotheses.



          Your proof appears to me to be correct.






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          • Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
            – Moed Pol Bollo
            Jul 21 at 4:35












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          The statement you have proved is not the same as the statement in the question you linked! In your statement, the $A_n$ are required only to be finite unions of elements of $J$. In the other question, they are required to be elements of $J$. George's counterexample does not satisfy your stronger hypotheses.



          Your proof appears to me to be correct.






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          The statement you have proved is not the same as the statement in the question you linked! In your statement, the $A_n$ are required only to be finite unions of elements of $J$. In the other question, they are required to be elements of $J$. George's counterexample does not satisfy your stronger hypotheses.



          Your proof appears to me to be correct.







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          • Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
            – Moed Pol Bollo
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          • Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
            – Moed Pol Bollo
            Jul 21 at 4:35















          Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
          – Moed Pol Bollo
          Jul 21 at 4:35




          Ah, I should have seen that (especially as that was the first place I looked for an error in my proof)! Thanks for the reply.
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