Eigenvalue of an $n times n$ real symmetric matrix with rank 2

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Let A be an $n times n$ real valued square symmetric matrix of rank 2 with
$sum_i=1^n sum_j=1^nA_ij^2=50$. Consider the following statements



(I) One Eigenvalue must be in [-5,5]



(II) The eigenvalue with the largest magnitude must be strictly greater than 5.



Which of the above statements about eigenvalues of A is/are necessarily CORRECT?



(A) Both I and II



(B) I only



(C) II only



(D) Neither I nor II



My attempt:



Let A be $beginbmatrix -5&0\0&5\ endbmatrix$ so, it's eigenvalues are -5 and 5. So statement I is true but II is false. So, the answer is B.



I can understand that the questions ask for conditions which are always true for a real values square symmetric matrix of rank 2.



Is there any better way to solve this?







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    Your example only shows that II is not necessarily true. You cannot conclude that the answer is B, because you haven't eliminated D as a possible choice.
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Below is a question from the GATE Exam.



Let A be an $n times n$ real valued square symmetric matrix of rank 2 with
$sum_i=1^n sum_j=1^nA_ij^2=50$. Consider the following statements



(I) One Eigenvalue must be in [-5,5]



(II) The eigenvalue with the largest magnitude must be strictly greater than 5.



Which of the above statements about eigenvalues of A is/are necessarily CORRECT?



(A) Both I and II



(B) I only



(C) II only



(D) Neither I nor II



My attempt:



Let A be $beginbmatrix -5&0\0&5\ endbmatrix$ so, it's eigenvalues are -5 and 5. So statement I is true but II is false. So, the answer is B.



I can understand that the questions ask for conditions which are always true for a real values square symmetric matrix of rank 2.



Is there any better way to solve this?







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    Your example only shows that II is not necessarily true. You cannot conclude that the answer is B, because you haven't eliminated D as a possible choice.
    – user1551
    Jul 16 at 5:29












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Below is a question from the GATE Exam.



Let A be an $n times n$ real valued square symmetric matrix of rank 2 with
$sum_i=1^n sum_j=1^nA_ij^2=50$. Consider the following statements



(I) One Eigenvalue must be in [-5,5]



(II) The eigenvalue with the largest magnitude must be strictly greater than 5.



Which of the above statements about eigenvalues of A is/are necessarily CORRECT?



(A) Both I and II



(B) I only



(C) II only



(D) Neither I nor II



My attempt:



Let A be $beginbmatrix -5&0\0&5\ endbmatrix$ so, it's eigenvalues are -5 and 5. So statement I is true but II is false. So, the answer is B.



I can understand that the questions ask for conditions which are always true for a real values square symmetric matrix of rank 2.



Is there any better way to solve this?







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Below is a question from the GATE Exam.



Let A be an $n times n$ real valued square symmetric matrix of rank 2 with
$sum_i=1^n sum_j=1^nA_ij^2=50$. Consider the following statements



(I) One Eigenvalue must be in [-5,5]



(II) The eigenvalue with the largest magnitude must be strictly greater than 5.



Which of the above statements about eigenvalues of A is/are necessarily CORRECT?



(A) Both I and II



(B) I only



(C) II only



(D) Neither I nor II



My attempt:



Let A be $beginbmatrix -5&0\0&5\ endbmatrix$ so, it's eigenvalues are -5 and 5. So statement I is true but II is false. So, the answer is B.



I can understand that the questions ask for conditions which are always true for a real values square symmetric matrix of rank 2.



Is there any better way to solve this?









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    Your example only shows that II is not necessarily true. You cannot conclude that the answer is B, because you haven't eliminated D as a possible choice.
    – user1551
    Jul 16 at 5:29












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    Your example only shows that II is not necessarily true. You cannot conclude that the answer is B, because you haven't eliminated D as a possible choice.
    – user1551
    Jul 16 at 5:29







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Your example only shows that II is not necessarily true. You cannot conclude that the answer is B, because you haven't eliminated D as a possible choice.
– user1551
Jul 16 at 5:29




Your example only shows that II is not necessarily true. You cannot conclude that the answer is B, because you haven't eliminated D as a possible choice.
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We are being told that $|A|_F^2 =50$ and also $A$ is a real symmetric matrix with rank $2$.



Hence $sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 =50$ and we know that the eigenvalues are real.



Suppose all eigenvalues are not in $[-5, 5]$, that is if $|lambda_i|>5, forall i in 1,ldots, n$ . Then, $$sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 ge n min_i lambda_i^2> 2(5)^2=50.$$



which is a contradiction. Hence $(I)$ is true.






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  • -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
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  • Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
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Take the matrix$A$ of the form $A= operatornamediag ( 5,5,0,... )$. Then
$|A|_F^2 = 50$, but both eigenvalues are in $[-5,5]$. Hence II is not true.



Since $A$ is symmetric, the singular values are the absolute values of the eigenvalues (which are real). Since $A$ has rank 2 there are exactly two non zero
eigenvalues.



Hence $|A|_F^2 = lambda_1^1+lambda_2^2 = 50$. Hence $min(lambda_1^1,lambda_2^2) le 25$ and so $min(|lambda_1|,|lambda_2|) le 5$
and so $I$ is true.



Hence B is the correct answer.






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    If $A = beginbmatrix -5 & 0 \ 0 & 5 endbmatrix $ then $|A|_F^2neq 50.$ If $A $ is a diagonal matrix then $ |D| = max_1 leq i leq n |d_i|$ so $ |A |_F^2 = 5$



    A = [-5,0;0,5];
    my = norm(A);
    display(my)
    my =

    5


    Also, the eigenvalues of a triangular matrix are the diagonal. And diagnonal matrices triangular matrices. So the eigenvalues are $-5,5$






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      We are being told that $|A|_F^2 =50$ and also $A$ is a real symmetric matrix with rank $2$.



      Hence $sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 =50$ and we know that the eigenvalues are real.



      Suppose all eigenvalues are not in $[-5, 5]$, that is if $|lambda_i|>5, forall i in 1,ldots, n$ . Then, $$sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 ge n min_i lambda_i^2> 2(5)^2=50.$$



      which is a contradiction. Hence $(I)$ is true.






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      • -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
        – user3767495
        Jul 16 at 9:16










      • Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
        – Siong Thye Goh
        Jul 16 at 9:23














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      We are being told that $|A|_F^2 =50$ and also $A$ is a real symmetric matrix with rank $2$.



      Hence $sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 =50$ and we know that the eigenvalues are real.



      Suppose all eigenvalues are not in $[-5, 5]$, that is if $|lambda_i|>5, forall i in 1,ldots, n$ . Then, $$sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 ge n min_i lambda_i^2> 2(5)^2=50.$$



      which is a contradiction. Hence $(I)$ is true.






      share|cite|improve this answer























      • -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
        – user3767495
        Jul 16 at 9:16










      • Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
        – Siong Thye Goh
        Jul 16 at 9:23












      up vote
      4
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      We are being told that $|A|_F^2 =50$ and also $A$ is a real symmetric matrix with rank $2$.



      Hence $sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 =50$ and we know that the eigenvalues are real.



      Suppose all eigenvalues are not in $[-5, 5]$, that is if $|lambda_i|>5, forall i in 1,ldots, n$ . Then, $$sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 ge n min_i lambda_i^2> 2(5)^2=50.$$



      which is a contradiction. Hence $(I)$ is true.






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      We are being told that $|A|_F^2 =50$ and also $A$ is a real symmetric matrix with rank $2$.



      Hence $sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 =50$ and we know that the eigenvalues are real.



      Suppose all eigenvalues are not in $[-5, 5]$, that is if $|lambda_i|>5, forall i in 1,ldots, n$ . Then, $$sum_i=1^n lambda_i^2 ge n min_i lambda_i^2> 2(5)^2=50.$$



      which is a contradiction. Hence $(I)$ is true.







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      answered Jul 16 at 5:38









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      • -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
        – user3767495
        Jul 16 at 9:16










      • Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
        – Siong Thye Goh
        Jul 16 at 9:23
















      • -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
        – user3767495
        Jul 16 at 9:16










      • Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
        – Siong Thye Goh
        Jul 16 at 9:23















      -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
      – user3767495
      Jul 16 at 9:16




      -What is this $||A||_F^2$ ?
      – user3767495
      Jul 16 at 9:16












      Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Jul 16 at 9:23




      Frobenius norm, basically sum of squares of each element.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Jul 16 at 9:23










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      Take the matrix$A$ of the form $A= operatornamediag ( 5,5,0,... )$. Then
      $|A|_F^2 = 50$, but both eigenvalues are in $[-5,5]$. Hence II is not true.



      Since $A$ is symmetric, the singular values are the absolute values of the eigenvalues (which are real). Since $A$ has rank 2 there are exactly two non zero
      eigenvalues.



      Hence $|A|_F^2 = lambda_1^1+lambda_2^2 = 50$. Hence $min(lambda_1^1,lambda_2^2) le 25$ and so $min(|lambda_1|,|lambda_2|) le 5$
      and so $I$ is true.



      Hence B is the correct answer.






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        Take the matrix$A$ of the form $A= operatornamediag ( 5,5,0,... )$. Then
        $|A|_F^2 = 50$, but both eigenvalues are in $[-5,5]$. Hence II is not true.



        Since $A$ is symmetric, the singular values are the absolute values of the eigenvalues (which are real). Since $A$ has rank 2 there are exactly two non zero
        eigenvalues.



        Hence $|A|_F^2 = lambda_1^1+lambda_2^2 = 50$. Hence $min(lambda_1^1,lambda_2^2) le 25$ and so $min(|lambda_1|,|lambda_2|) le 5$
        and so $I$ is true.



        Hence B is the correct answer.






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          Take the matrix$A$ of the form $A= operatornamediag ( 5,5,0,... )$. Then
          $|A|_F^2 = 50$, but both eigenvalues are in $[-5,5]$. Hence II is not true.



          Since $A$ is symmetric, the singular values are the absolute values of the eigenvalues (which are real). Since $A$ has rank 2 there are exactly two non zero
          eigenvalues.



          Hence $|A|_F^2 = lambda_1^1+lambda_2^2 = 50$. Hence $min(lambda_1^1,lambda_2^2) le 25$ and so $min(|lambda_1|,|lambda_2|) le 5$
          and so $I$ is true.



          Hence B is the correct answer.






          share|cite|improve this answer















          Take the matrix$A$ of the form $A= operatornamediag ( 5,5,0,... )$. Then
          $|A|_F^2 = 50$, but both eigenvalues are in $[-5,5]$. Hence II is not true.



          Since $A$ is symmetric, the singular values are the absolute values of the eigenvalues (which are real). Since $A$ has rank 2 there are exactly two non zero
          eigenvalues.



          Hence $|A|_F^2 = lambda_1^1+lambda_2^2 = 50$. Hence $min(lambda_1^1,lambda_2^2) le 25$ and so $min(|lambda_1|,|lambda_2|) le 5$
          and so $I$ is true.



          Hence B is the correct answer.







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              If $A = beginbmatrix -5 & 0 \ 0 & 5 endbmatrix $ then $|A|_F^2neq 50.$ If $A $ is a diagonal matrix then $ |D| = max_1 leq i leq n |d_i|$ so $ |A |_F^2 = 5$



              A = [-5,0;0,5];
              my = norm(A);
              display(my)
              my =

              5


              Also, the eigenvalues of a triangular matrix are the diagonal. And diagnonal matrices triangular matrices. So the eigenvalues are $-5,5$






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                If $A = beginbmatrix -5 & 0 \ 0 & 5 endbmatrix $ then $|A|_F^2neq 50.$ If $A $ is a diagonal matrix then $ |D| = max_1 leq i leq n |d_i|$ so $ |A |_F^2 = 5$



                A = [-5,0;0,5];
                my = norm(A);
                display(my)
                my =

                5


                Also, the eigenvalues of a triangular matrix are the diagonal. And diagnonal matrices triangular matrices. So the eigenvalues are $-5,5$






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                  If $A = beginbmatrix -5 & 0 \ 0 & 5 endbmatrix $ then $|A|_F^2neq 50.$ If $A $ is a diagonal matrix then $ |D| = max_1 leq i leq n |d_i|$ so $ |A |_F^2 = 5$



                  A = [-5,0;0,5];
                  my = norm(A);
                  display(my)
                  my =

                  5


                  Also, the eigenvalues of a triangular matrix are the diagonal. And diagnonal matrices triangular matrices. So the eigenvalues are $-5,5$






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                  If $A = beginbmatrix -5 & 0 \ 0 & 5 endbmatrix $ then $|A|_F^2neq 50.$ If $A $ is a diagonal matrix then $ |D| = max_1 leq i leq n |d_i|$ so $ |A |_F^2 = 5$



                  A = [-5,0;0,5];
                  my = norm(A);
                  display(my)
                  my =

                  5


                  Also, the eigenvalues of a triangular matrix are the diagonal. And diagnonal matrices triangular matrices. So the eigenvalues are $-5,5$







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