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$$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



Tried removing roots. Got a degree $6$ equation which I didn't no how to solve. Also tried substituting $x = sec(y)$ but couldn't even come close to the solution.







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$$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



Tried removing roots. Got a degree $6$ equation which I didn't no how to solve. Also tried substituting $x = sec(y)$ but couldn't even come close to the solution.







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  • Please show us how you obtained a degree 6 equation.
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$$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



Tried removing roots. Got a degree $6$ equation which I didn't no how to solve. Also tried substituting $x = sec(y)$ but couldn't even come close to the solution.







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$$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



Tried removing roots. Got a degree $6$ equation which I didn't no how to solve. Also tried substituting $x = sec(y)$ but couldn't even come close to the solution.









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  • Please show us how you obtained a degree 6 equation.
    – amWhy
    Jul 26 at 20:28










  • @user579048 Please recall that if the OP is solved you can evaluate to accept an answer among the given, more details here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/…
    – gimusi
    yesterday
















  • Please show us how you obtained a degree 6 equation.
    – amWhy
    Jul 26 at 20:28










  • @user579048 Please recall that if the OP is solved you can evaluate to accept an answer among the given, more details here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/…
    – gimusi
    yesterday















Please show us how you obtained a degree 6 equation.
– amWhy
Jul 26 at 20:28




Please show us how you obtained a degree 6 equation.
– amWhy
Jul 26 at 20:28












@user579048 Please recall that if the OP is solved you can evaluate to accept an answer among the given, more details here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/…
– gimusi
yesterday




@user579048 Please recall that if the OP is solved you can evaluate to accept an answer among the given, more details here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/…
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Let's see how insurmountable this sextic equation is.



Start by deriving the equation. First multiply by $sqrtx$, square both sides, and isolate the remaining radical:



$(x^2-1)+2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)+(x-1)=x^3$



$2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)=x^2-x^2-x+2$



Square again, expand and collect to get our monster:



$x^6-2x^5-x^4+2x^3+x^2=0$



Clearly since $x$ must be positive (certainly not zero, which the fractional radicands in the original equations would forbid), the factor $x^2$ can be divided out. We are down to degree $4$:



$x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0$



Next observe that this quartic equation has the following property:



(Linear coefficient)/(Cubic coefficient) $=c$



(Constant)/(Quartic coefficient)$=c^2$



When this occurs, the roots of the quartic equation occur in pairs giving the product $c$ and thus we must have a factorization:



$(x^2+ax+c)(x^2+bx+c)$



Here, $c=-1$ and so:



$x^4-2x^3-x^4+2x+1=0=(x^2+ax-1)(x^2+bx-1)$



Expanding the right side and matching like terms leads to two independent equations, thus:



$a+b=-2; b=-2-a$



$ab=1$



Then $a(-2-a)=1, a^2+2a+1=0$ and we have the root $a=-1$. Thus $b=-1$ and our polynomial is now reduced to a single, squared factor:



$(x^2-x-1)^2=0$



And so, from the quadratic formula,



$x=frac1+sqrt52$



Which the reader can verify, checks out! Note that in the checking process we should find $(x^2-1)/x=1$.






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    HINT



    We can try with



    $$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



    $$sqrt x+1sqrt x- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



    $$(sqrt x+1+1)sqrt x- 1over x = x$$



    $$sqrt x- 1over x = fracxsqrt x+1+1fracsqrt x+1-1sqrt x+1-1=sqrt x+1-1$$



    $$sqrt x- 1 =sqrt x^2+x-sqrt x$$



    and from here we can square to eliminate the square roots.



    Recall to check at the end the conditions for the existence related to the original equation



    • $x^2- 1over xge 0$


    • $x- 1over xge 0$


    • $xneq 0$






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    • Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
      – Oscar Lanzi
      Jul 27 at 10:00






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      @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
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      Jul 27 at 10:03

















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    Checking other answers:



    Note that $fracx^2-1xge 0;fracx-1xge 0$ and $x>0$ imply $x>1$.



    If $x^2=x+1 (1)$, then:
    $$ x^2-1=x Rightarrow fracx-1x=frac1x+1,\
    sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x (2) Rightarrow \
    sqrt (x+1)- 1over x + sqrt1over x+1 = sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
    1+frac1sqrtx+1=sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
    sqrtx+1+1=x+1 Rightarrow \
    x+1=x^2.$$
    So, $(1)$ and $(2)$ are equivalent.






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    • How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
      – Oscar Lanzi
      Jul 27 at 17:32










    • @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
      – farruhota
      Jul 27 at 18:35











    • See my introductory phrase.
      – Oscar Lanzi
      Jul 28 at 1:09






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      @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
      – farruhota
      Jul 28 at 13:52










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    Let's see how insurmountable this sextic equation is.



    Start by deriving the equation. First multiply by $sqrtx$, square both sides, and isolate the remaining radical:



    $(x^2-1)+2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)+(x-1)=x^3$



    $2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)=x^2-x^2-x+2$



    Square again, expand and collect to get our monster:



    $x^6-2x^5-x^4+2x^3+x^2=0$



    Clearly since $x$ must be positive (certainly not zero, which the fractional radicands in the original equations would forbid), the factor $x^2$ can be divided out. We are down to degree $4$:



    $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0$



    Next observe that this quartic equation has the following property:



    (Linear coefficient)/(Cubic coefficient) $=c$



    (Constant)/(Quartic coefficient)$=c^2$



    When this occurs, the roots of the quartic equation occur in pairs giving the product $c$ and thus we must have a factorization:



    $(x^2+ax+c)(x^2+bx+c)$



    Here, $c=-1$ and so:



    $x^4-2x^3-x^4+2x+1=0=(x^2+ax-1)(x^2+bx-1)$



    Expanding the right side and matching like terms leads to two independent equations, thus:



    $a+b=-2; b=-2-a$



    $ab=1$



    Then $a(-2-a)=1, a^2+2a+1=0$ and we have the root $a=-1$. Thus $b=-1$ and our polynomial is now reduced to a single, squared factor:



    $(x^2-x-1)^2=0$



    And so, from the quadratic formula,



    $x=frac1+sqrt52$



    Which the reader can verify, checks out! Note that in the checking process we should find $(x^2-1)/x=1$.






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      Let's see how insurmountable this sextic equation is.



      Start by deriving the equation. First multiply by $sqrtx$, square both sides, and isolate the remaining radical:



      $(x^2-1)+2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)+(x-1)=x^3$



      $2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)=x^2-x^2-x+2$



      Square again, expand and collect to get our monster:



      $x^6-2x^5-x^4+2x^3+x^2=0$



      Clearly since $x$ must be positive (certainly not zero, which the fractional radicands in the original equations would forbid), the factor $x^2$ can be divided out. We are down to degree $4$:



      $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0$



      Next observe that this quartic equation has the following property:



      (Linear coefficient)/(Cubic coefficient) $=c$



      (Constant)/(Quartic coefficient)$=c^2$



      When this occurs, the roots of the quartic equation occur in pairs giving the product $c$ and thus we must have a factorization:



      $(x^2+ax+c)(x^2+bx+c)$



      Here, $c=-1$ and so:



      $x^4-2x^3-x^4+2x+1=0=(x^2+ax-1)(x^2+bx-1)$



      Expanding the right side and matching like terms leads to two independent equations, thus:



      $a+b=-2; b=-2-a$



      $ab=1$



      Then $a(-2-a)=1, a^2+2a+1=0$ and we have the root $a=-1$. Thus $b=-1$ and our polynomial is now reduced to a single, squared factor:



      $(x^2-x-1)^2=0$



      And so, from the quadratic formula,



      $x=frac1+sqrt52$



      Which the reader can verify, checks out! Note that in the checking process we should find $(x^2-1)/x=1$.






      share|cite|improve this answer

























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        up vote
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        Let's see how insurmountable this sextic equation is.



        Start by deriving the equation. First multiply by $sqrtx$, square both sides, and isolate the remaining radical:



        $(x^2-1)+2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)+(x-1)=x^3$



        $2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)=x^2-x^2-x+2$



        Square again, expand and collect to get our monster:



        $x^6-2x^5-x^4+2x^3+x^2=0$



        Clearly since $x$ must be positive (certainly not zero, which the fractional radicands in the original equations would forbid), the factor $x^2$ can be divided out. We are down to degree $4$:



        $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0$



        Next observe that this quartic equation has the following property:



        (Linear coefficient)/(Cubic coefficient) $=c$



        (Constant)/(Quartic coefficient)$=c^2$



        When this occurs, the roots of the quartic equation occur in pairs giving the product $c$ and thus we must have a factorization:



        $(x^2+ax+c)(x^2+bx+c)$



        Here, $c=-1$ and so:



        $x^4-2x^3-x^4+2x+1=0=(x^2+ax-1)(x^2+bx-1)$



        Expanding the right side and matching like terms leads to two independent equations, thus:



        $a+b=-2; b=-2-a$



        $ab=1$



        Then $a(-2-a)=1, a^2+2a+1=0$ and we have the root $a=-1$. Thus $b=-1$ and our polynomial is now reduced to a single, squared factor:



        $(x^2-x-1)^2=0$



        And so, from the quadratic formula,



        $x=frac1+sqrt52$



        Which the reader can verify, checks out! Note that in the checking process we should find $(x^2-1)/x=1$.






        share|cite|improve this answer















        Let's see how insurmountable this sextic equation is.



        Start by deriving the equation. First multiply by $sqrtx$, square both sides, and isolate the remaining radical:



        $(x^2-1)+2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)+(x-1)=x^3$



        $2sqrt(x^2-1)(x-1)=x^2-x^2-x+2$



        Square again, expand and collect to get our monster:



        $x^6-2x^5-x^4+2x^3+x^2=0$



        Clearly since $x$ must be positive (certainly not zero, which the fractional radicands in the original equations would forbid), the factor $x^2$ can be divided out. We are down to degree $4$:



        $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=0$



        Next observe that this quartic equation has the following property:



        (Linear coefficient)/(Cubic coefficient) $=c$



        (Constant)/(Quartic coefficient)$=c^2$



        When this occurs, the roots of the quartic equation occur in pairs giving the product $c$ and thus we must have a factorization:



        $(x^2+ax+c)(x^2+bx+c)$



        Here, $c=-1$ and so:



        $x^4-2x^3-x^4+2x+1=0=(x^2+ax-1)(x^2+bx-1)$



        Expanding the right side and matching like terms leads to two independent equations, thus:



        $a+b=-2; b=-2-a$



        $ab=1$



        Then $a(-2-a)=1, a^2+2a+1=0$ and we have the root $a=-1$. Thus $b=-1$ and our polynomial is now reduced to a single, squared factor:



        $(x^2-x-1)^2=0$



        And so, from the quadratic formula,



        $x=frac1+sqrt52$



        Which the reader can verify, checks out! Note that in the checking process we should find $(x^2-1)/x=1$.







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            HINT



            We can try with



            $$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x+1sqrt x- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$(sqrt x+1+1)sqrt x- 1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x- 1over x = fracxsqrt x+1+1fracsqrt x+1-1sqrt x+1-1=sqrt x+1-1$$



            $$sqrt x- 1 =sqrt x^2+x-sqrt x$$



            and from here we can square to eliminate the square roots.



            Recall to check at the end the conditions for the existence related to the original equation



            • $x^2- 1over xge 0$


            • $x- 1over xge 0$


            • $xneq 0$






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 10:00






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 10:03














            up vote
            2
            down vote













            HINT



            We can try with



            $$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x+1sqrt x- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$(sqrt x+1+1)sqrt x- 1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x- 1over x = fracxsqrt x+1+1fracsqrt x+1-1sqrt x+1-1=sqrt x+1-1$$



            $$sqrt x- 1 =sqrt x^2+x-sqrt x$$



            and from here we can square to eliminate the square roots.



            Recall to check at the end the conditions for the existence related to the original equation



            • $x^2- 1over xge 0$


            • $x- 1over xge 0$


            • $xneq 0$






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 10:00






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 10:03












            up vote
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            up vote
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            HINT



            We can try with



            $$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x+1sqrt x- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$(sqrt x+1+1)sqrt x- 1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x- 1over x = fracxsqrt x+1+1fracsqrt x+1-1sqrt x+1-1=sqrt x+1-1$$



            $$sqrt x- 1 =sqrt x^2+x-sqrt x$$



            and from here we can square to eliminate the square roots.



            Recall to check at the end the conditions for the existence related to the original equation



            • $x^2- 1over xge 0$


            • $x- 1over xge 0$


            • $xneq 0$






            share|cite|improve this answer















            HINT



            We can try with



            $$sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x+1sqrt x- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x$$



            $$(sqrt x+1+1)sqrt x- 1over x = x$$



            $$sqrt x- 1over x = fracxsqrt x+1+1fracsqrt x+1-1sqrt x+1-1=sqrt x+1-1$$



            $$sqrt x- 1 =sqrt x^2+x-sqrt x$$



            and from here we can square to eliminate the square roots.



            Recall to check at the end the conditions for the existence related to the original equation



            • $x^2- 1over xge 0$


            • $x- 1over xge 0$


            • $xneq 0$







            share|cite|improve this answer















            share|cite|improve this answer



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            answered Jul 26 at 20:35









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            • Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 10:00






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 10:03
















            • Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 10:00






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
              – gimusi
              Jul 27 at 10:03















            Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
            – Oscar Lanzi
            Jul 27 at 10:00




            Can I see the radical eliminated equation? It looks like it would be degree only 4 making it more parsimonious than my (and the OP's) development.
            – Oscar Lanzi
            Jul 27 at 10:00




            1




            1




            @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
            – gimusi
            Jul 27 at 10:03




            @OscarLanzi squaring 2 times we obtain $x^4-2x^3-x^2+2x+1=(x^2-x-1)^2=0$.
            – gimusi
            Jul 27 at 10:03










            up vote
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            Checking other answers:



            Note that $fracx^2-1xge 0;fracx-1xge 0$ and $x>0$ imply $x>1$.



            If $x^2=x+1 (1)$, then:
            $$ x^2-1=x Rightarrow fracx-1x=frac1x+1,\
            sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x (2) Rightarrow \
            sqrt (x+1)- 1over x + sqrt1over x+1 = sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            1+frac1sqrtx+1=sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            sqrtx+1+1=x+1 Rightarrow \
            x+1=x^2.$$
            So, $(1)$ and $(2)$ are equivalent.






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            • How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 17:32










            • @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
              – farruhota
              Jul 27 at 18:35











            • See my introductory phrase.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 28 at 1:09






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
              – farruhota
              Jul 28 at 13:52














            up vote
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            down vote













            Checking other answers:



            Note that $fracx^2-1xge 0;fracx-1xge 0$ and $x>0$ imply $x>1$.



            If $x^2=x+1 (1)$, then:
            $$ x^2-1=x Rightarrow fracx-1x=frac1x+1,\
            sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x (2) Rightarrow \
            sqrt (x+1)- 1over x + sqrt1over x+1 = sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            1+frac1sqrtx+1=sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            sqrtx+1+1=x+1 Rightarrow \
            x+1=x^2.$$
            So, $(1)$ and $(2)$ are equivalent.






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            • How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 17:32










            • @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
              – farruhota
              Jul 27 at 18:35











            • See my introductory phrase.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 28 at 1:09






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
              – farruhota
              Jul 28 at 13:52












            up vote
            1
            down vote










            up vote
            1
            down vote









            Checking other answers:



            Note that $fracx^2-1xge 0;fracx-1xge 0$ and $x>0$ imply $x>1$.



            If $x^2=x+1 (1)$, then:
            $$ x^2-1=x Rightarrow fracx-1x=frac1x+1,\
            sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x (2) Rightarrow \
            sqrt (x+1)- 1over x + sqrt1over x+1 = sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            1+frac1sqrtx+1=sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            sqrtx+1+1=x+1 Rightarrow \
            x+1=x^2.$$
            So, $(1)$ and $(2)$ are equivalent.






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            Checking other answers:



            Note that $fracx^2-1xge 0;fracx-1xge 0$ and $x>0$ imply $x>1$.



            If $x^2=x+1 (1)$, then:
            $$ x^2-1=x Rightarrow fracx-1x=frac1x+1,\
            sqrt x^2- 1over x + sqrtx-1over x = x (2) Rightarrow \
            sqrt (x+1)- 1over x + sqrt1over x+1 = sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            1+frac1sqrtx+1=sqrtx+1 Rightarrow \
            sqrtx+1+1=x+1 Rightarrow \
            x+1=x^2.$$
            So, $(1)$ and $(2)$ are equivalent.







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            • How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 17:32










            • @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
              – farruhota
              Jul 27 at 18:35











            • See my introductory phrase.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 28 at 1:09






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
              – farruhota
              Jul 28 at 13:52
















            • How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 27 at 17:32










            • @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
              – farruhota
              Jul 27 at 18:35











            • See my introductory phrase.
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Jul 28 at 1:09






            • 1




              @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
              – farruhota
              Jul 28 at 13:52















            How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
            – Oscar Lanzi
            Jul 27 at 17:32




            How d you magically get $x^2=x+1$?
            – Oscar Lanzi
            Jul 27 at 17:32












            @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
            – farruhota
            Jul 27 at 18:35





            @OscarLanzi, the point was to support the given two answers and show the golden mean is indeed the root of the given equation.
            – farruhota
            Jul 27 at 18:35













            See my introductory phrase.
            – Oscar Lanzi
            Jul 28 at 1:09




            See my introductory phrase.
            – Oscar Lanzi
            Jul 28 at 1:09




            1




            1




            @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
            – farruhota
            Jul 28 at 13:52




            @OscarLanzi, it is fine, thank you.
            – farruhota
            Jul 28 at 13:52












             

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