Find a value of $a$ for which line segment equals 4

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$f(x)=2^x+1+2^4-x$



There is a value of $a$ for which the line $y=a$ intersects the graph of $f$ in two points $P$ and $Q$. The length of the line segment $PQ$ equals $4$.




I tried to figure it out on my own. Looking at the graph I saw that $y=a$ would intercept the graph twice from $f$'s minima, which is at $x=3/2$. Yet I'm unsure how to make an equation that would give me the answer regarding the line segment.



Would appreciate help! Thanks in advance.







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    $f(x)=2^x+1+2^4-x$



    There is a value of $a$ for which the line $y=a$ intersects the graph of $f$ in two points $P$ and $Q$. The length of the line segment $PQ$ equals $4$.




    I tried to figure it out on my own. Looking at the graph I saw that $y=a$ would intercept the graph twice from $f$'s minima, which is at $x=3/2$. Yet I'm unsure how to make an equation that would give me the answer regarding the line segment.



    Would appreciate help! Thanks in advance.







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      $f(x)=2^x+1+2^4-x$



      There is a value of $a$ for which the line $y=a$ intersects the graph of $f$ in two points $P$ and $Q$. The length of the line segment $PQ$ equals $4$.




      I tried to figure it out on my own. Looking at the graph I saw that $y=a$ would intercept the graph twice from $f$'s minima, which is at $x=3/2$. Yet I'm unsure how to make an equation that would give me the answer regarding the line segment.



      Would appreciate help! Thanks in advance.







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      $f(x)=2^x+1+2^4-x$



      There is a value of $a$ for which the line $y=a$ intersects the graph of $f$ in two points $P$ and $Q$. The length of the line segment $PQ$ equals $4$.




      I tried to figure it out on my own. Looking at the graph I saw that $y=a$ would intercept the graph twice from $f$'s minima, which is at $x=3/2$. Yet I'm unsure how to make an equation that would give me the answer regarding the line segment.



      Would appreciate help! Thanks in advance.









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          So, if for some $b$ we have $f(b)=a$ then we have $f(b+4)=a$ (or $f(b-4)=a)$) .



          So $$2^b+1+2^4-b = 2^b+5+2^-b$$



          so $$2^-b(2^4-1)= 2^b+1(2^4-1)implies 2^b+1= 2^-bimplies b=-1over 2$$



          so $a = f(-1/2) = 17sqrt2$.






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          • Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
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          $$f(3/2+x)=2^3/2+x+1+2^4-(3/2+x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



          $$f(3/2-x)=2^3/2-x+1+2^4-(3/2-x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



          That is we have $$f(3/2+x)=f(3/2-x)$$



          The graph is symmetrical about $x=frac32$.



          Hence the $x$ values for the two points are $frac32+2$ and $frac32-2$.



          Having that we should be able to find the value of $a$.






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            Correct me if wrong.



            Let $z:=2^x$, then



            $2z+2^4z^-1= a$, or



            $z^2 -(a/2)z +2^3=0.$



            Note:



            $z_1/z_2= 2^x_1-x_2= 2^4$.



            $z_1×z_2 = 2^3$ (Vieta).



            $z_1^2 = 2^7$; or



            $z_1=2^3+1/2$; i.e



            $x_1=3+1/2$, and $x_2=-1/2$.



            $-a/2= -z_1-z_2$ (Vieta);



            $a=2(2^3+1/2+2^-1/2)=$



            $2^42^1/2 + 2^1/2=√2(17)$.






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              So, if for some $b$ we have $f(b)=a$ then we have $f(b+4)=a$ (or $f(b-4)=a)$) .



              So $$2^b+1+2^4-b = 2^b+5+2^-b$$



              so $$2^-b(2^4-1)= 2^b+1(2^4-1)implies 2^b+1= 2^-bimplies b=-1over 2$$



              so $a = f(-1/2) = 17sqrt2$.






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              • Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
                – Eli S.
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              So, if for some $b$ we have $f(b)=a$ then we have $f(b+4)=a$ (or $f(b-4)=a)$) .



              So $$2^b+1+2^4-b = 2^b+5+2^-b$$



              so $$2^-b(2^4-1)= 2^b+1(2^4-1)implies 2^b+1= 2^-bimplies b=-1over 2$$



              so $a = f(-1/2) = 17sqrt2$.






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              • Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
                – Eli S.
                Jul 22 at 17:44












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              So, if for some $b$ we have $f(b)=a$ then we have $f(b+4)=a$ (or $f(b-4)=a)$) .



              So $$2^b+1+2^4-b = 2^b+5+2^-b$$



              so $$2^-b(2^4-1)= 2^b+1(2^4-1)implies 2^b+1= 2^-bimplies b=-1over 2$$



              so $a = f(-1/2) = 17sqrt2$.






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              So, if for some $b$ we have $f(b)=a$ then we have $f(b+4)=a$ (or $f(b-4)=a)$) .



              So $$2^b+1+2^4-b = 2^b+5+2^-b$$



              so $$2^-b(2^4-1)= 2^b+1(2^4-1)implies 2^b+1= 2^-bimplies b=-1over 2$$



              so $a = f(-1/2) = 17sqrt2$.







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              • Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
                – Eli S.
                Jul 22 at 17:44
















              • Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
                – Eli S.
                Jul 22 at 17:44















              Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
              – Eli S.
              Jul 22 at 17:44




              Thank you, you made a small mistake there on the final answer. It's $17sqrt2$.
              – Eli S.
              Jul 22 at 17:44










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              $$f(3/2+x)=2^3/2+x+1+2^4-(3/2+x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



              $$f(3/2-x)=2^3/2-x+1+2^4-(3/2-x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



              That is we have $$f(3/2+x)=f(3/2-x)$$



              The graph is symmetrical about $x=frac32$.



              Hence the $x$ values for the two points are $frac32+2$ and $frac32-2$.



              Having that we should be able to find the value of $a$.






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                $$f(3/2+x)=2^3/2+x+1+2^4-(3/2+x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



                $$f(3/2-x)=2^3/2-x+1+2^4-(3/2-x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



                That is we have $$f(3/2+x)=f(3/2-x)$$



                The graph is symmetrical about $x=frac32$.



                Hence the $x$ values for the two points are $frac32+2$ and $frac32-2$.



                Having that we should be able to find the value of $a$.






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                  $$f(3/2+x)=2^3/2+x+1+2^4-(3/2+x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



                  $$f(3/2-x)=2^3/2-x+1+2^4-(3/2-x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



                  That is we have $$f(3/2+x)=f(3/2-x)$$



                  The graph is symmetrical about $x=frac32$.



                  Hence the $x$ values for the two points are $frac32+2$ and $frac32-2$.



                  Having that we should be able to find the value of $a$.






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                  $$f(3/2+x)=2^3/2+x+1+2^4-(3/2+x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



                  $$f(3/2-x)=2^3/2-x+1+2^4-(3/2-x)=2^frac52+x+2^frac52-x$$



                  That is we have $$f(3/2+x)=f(3/2-x)$$



                  The graph is symmetrical about $x=frac32$.



                  Hence the $x$ values for the two points are $frac32+2$ and $frac32-2$.



                  Having that we should be able to find the value of $a$.







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                  answered Jul 22 at 9:44









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                      Correct me if wrong.



                      Let $z:=2^x$, then



                      $2z+2^4z^-1= a$, or



                      $z^2 -(a/2)z +2^3=0.$



                      Note:



                      $z_1/z_2= 2^x_1-x_2= 2^4$.



                      $z_1×z_2 = 2^3$ (Vieta).



                      $z_1^2 = 2^7$; or



                      $z_1=2^3+1/2$; i.e



                      $x_1=3+1/2$, and $x_2=-1/2$.



                      $-a/2= -z_1-z_2$ (Vieta);



                      $a=2(2^3+1/2+2^-1/2)=$



                      $2^42^1/2 + 2^1/2=√2(17)$.






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                        up vote
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                        down vote













                        Correct me if wrong.



                        Let $z:=2^x$, then



                        $2z+2^4z^-1= a$, or



                        $z^2 -(a/2)z +2^3=0.$



                        Note:



                        $z_1/z_2= 2^x_1-x_2= 2^4$.



                        $z_1×z_2 = 2^3$ (Vieta).



                        $z_1^2 = 2^7$; or



                        $z_1=2^3+1/2$; i.e



                        $x_1=3+1/2$, and $x_2=-1/2$.



                        $-a/2= -z_1-z_2$ (Vieta);



                        $a=2(2^3+1/2+2^-1/2)=$



                        $2^42^1/2 + 2^1/2=√2(17)$.






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                          Correct me if wrong.



                          Let $z:=2^x$, then



                          $2z+2^4z^-1= a$, or



                          $z^2 -(a/2)z +2^3=0.$



                          Note:



                          $z_1/z_2= 2^x_1-x_2= 2^4$.



                          $z_1×z_2 = 2^3$ (Vieta).



                          $z_1^2 = 2^7$; or



                          $z_1=2^3+1/2$; i.e



                          $x_1=3+1/2$, and $x_2=-1/2$.



                          $-a/2= -z_1-z_2$ (Vieta);



                          $a=2(2^3+1/2+2^-1/2)=$



                          $2^42^1/2 + 2^1/2=√2(17)$.






                          share|cite|improve this answer













                          Correct me if wrong.



                          Let $z:=2^x$, then



                          $2z+2^4z^-1= a$, or



                          $z^2 -(a/2)z +2^3=0.$



                          Note:



                          $z_1/z_2= 2^x_1-x_2= 2^4$.



                          $z_1×z_2 = 2^3$ (Vieta).



                          $z_1^2 = 2^7$; or



                          $z_1=2^3+1/2$; i.e



                          $x_1=3+1/2$, and $x_2=-1/2$.



                          $-a/2= -z_1-z_2$ (Vieta);



                          $a=2(2^3+1/2+2^-1/2)=$



                          $2^42^1/2 + 2^1/2=√2(17)$.







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