Is the maximal periodic normal subgroup of a group characteristic?
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Let $G$ be a group and $T$ the maximal periodic normal subgroup of $G$. The subgroup $T$ may be obtained by Zorn's Lemma (see e.g $[1, p.22]$).
In $[2, p.4]$, the authors posed that $T$ is characteristic in $G$ without a proof.
I don't know how to prove this fact as well as unaware of a reference.
Thanks for any hint.
- B.A.F. Wehrfritz, Group and Ring Theoretic Properties of Polycyclic Groups, Springer-Verlag, London, $2009$.
- L.A. Kurdachenko, J. Otal, I.Ya. Subbotin: On a generalization of Baer theorem. Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. $141(2013), 2597-2602$.
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Let $G$ be a group and $T$ the maximal periodic normal subgroup of $G$. The subgroup $T$ may be obtained by Zorn's Lemma (see e.g $[1, p.22]$).
In $[2, p.4]$, the authors posed that $T$ is characteristic in $G$ without a proof.
I don't know how to prove this fact as well as unaware of a reference.
Thanks for any hint.
- B.A.F. Wehrfritz, Group and Ring Theoretic Properties of Polycyclic Groups, Springer-Verlag, London, $2009$.
- L.A. Kurdachenko, J. Otal, I.Ya. Subbotin: On a generalization of Baer theorem. Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. $141(2013), 2597-2602$.
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Is this not totally trivial? Every word of "maximal periodic normal subgroup" is preserved by isomorphisms...
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:41
Or is your real question why the maximal periodic normal subgroup is unique? (Until you know that, it doesn't make any sense to talk about the maximal periodic normal subgroup.)
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:48
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Let $G$ be a group and $T$ the maximal periodic normal subgroup of $G$. The subgroup $T$ may be obtained by Zorn's Lemma (see e.g $[1, p.22]$).
In $[2, p.4]$, the authors posed that $T$ is characteristic in $G$ without a proof.
I don't know how to prove this fact as well as unaware of a reference.
Thanks for any hint.
- B.A.F. Wehrfritz, Group and Ring Theoretic Properties of Polycyclic Groups, Springer-Verlag, London, $2009$.
- L.A. Kurdachenko, J. Otal, I.Ya. Subbotin: On a generalization of Baer theorem. Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. $141(2013), 2597-2602$.
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Let $G$ be a group and $T$ the maximal periodic normal subgroup of $G$. The subgroup $T$ may be obtained by Zorn's Lemma (see e.g $[1, p.22]$).
In $[2, p.4]$, the authors posed that $T$ is characteristic in $G$ without a proof.
I don't know how to prove this fact as well as unaware of a reference.
Thanks for any hint.
- B.A.F. Wehrfritz, Group and Ring Theoretic Properties of Polycyclic Groups, Springer-Verlag, London, $2009$.
- L.A. Kurdachenko, J. Otal, I.Ya. Subbotin: On a generalization of Baer theorem. Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. $141(2013), 2597-2602$.
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Is this not totally trivial? Every word of "maximal periodic normal subgroup" is preserved by isomorphisms...
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:41
Or is your real question why the maximal periodic normal subgroup is unique? (Until you know that, it doesn't make any sense to talk about the maximal periodic normal subgroup.)
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:48
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Is this not totally trivial? Every word of "maximal periodic normal subgroup" is preserved by isomorphisms...
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:41
Or is your real question why the maximal periodic normal subgroup is unique? (Until you know that, it doesn't make any sense to talk about the maximal periodic normal subgroup.)
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:48
Is this not totally trivial? Every word of "maximal periodic normal subgroup" is preserved by isomorphisms...
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:41
Is this not totally trivial? Every word of "maximal periodic normal subgroup" is preserved by isomorphisms...
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:41
Or is your real question why the maximal periodic normal subgroup is unique? (Until you know that, it doesn't make any sense to talk about the maximal periodic normal subgroup.)
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:48
Or is your real question why the maximal periodic normal subgroup is unique? (Until you know that, it doesn't make any sense to talk about the maximal periodic normal subgroup.)
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:48
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Let $H$ and $H'$ be normal periodic subgroups of $G$. Then $HH'$ is also a normal periodic subgroup of $G$, since $HH'/H'$ and $H'$ are both periodic.
Thus if we have a maximal "normal periodic" subgroup $N$ in $G$, then every normal periodic subgroup is contained in $N$. In particular, $f(N)$ is contained in $N$ for every $f in operatornameAut(G)$, so $N$ is a characteristic subgroup of $G$.
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Let $H$ and $H'$ be normal periodic subgroups of $G$. Then $HH'$ is also a normal periodic subgroup of $G$, since $HH'/H'$ and $H'$ are both periodic.
Thus if we have a maximal "normal periodic" subgroup $N$ in $G$, then every normal periodic subgroup is contained in $N$. In particular, $f(N)$ is contained in $N$ for every $f in operatornameAut(G)$, so $N$ is a characteristic subgroup of $G$.
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Let $H$ and $H'$ be normal periodic subgroups of $G$. Then $HH'$ is also a normal periodic subgroup of $G$, since $HH'/H'$ and $H'$ are both periodic.
Thus if we have a maximal "normal periodic" subgroup $N$ in $G$, then every normal periodic subgroup is contained in $N$. In particular, $f(N)$ is contained in $N$ for every $f in operatornameAut(G)$, so $N$ is a characteristic subgroup of $G$.
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Let $H$ and $H'$ be normal periodic subgroups of $G$. Then $HH'$ is also a normal periodic subgroup of $G$, since $HH'/H'$ and $H'$ are both periodic.
Thus if we have a maximal "normal periodic" subgroup $N$ in $G$, then every normal periodic subgroup is contained in $N$. In particular, $f(N)$ is contained in $N$ for every $f in operatornameAut(G)$, so $N$ is a characteristic subgroup of $G$.
Let $H$ and $H'$ be normal periodic subgroups of $G$. Then $HH'$ is also a normal periodic subgroup of $G$, since $HH'/H'$ and $H'$ are both periodic.
Thus if we have a maximal "normal periodic" subgroup $N$ in $G$, then every normal periodic subgroup is contained in $N$. In particular, $f(N)$ is contained in $N$ for every $f in operatornameAut(G)$, so $N$ is a characteristic subgroup of $G$.
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Is this not totally trivial? Every word of "maximal periodic normal subgroup" is preserved by isomorphisms...
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:41
Or is your real question why the maximal periodic normal subgroup is unique? (Until you know that, it doesn't make any sense to talk about the maximal periodic normal subgroup.)
– Eric Wofsey
Jul 16 at 2:48