Is my proof of this lemma about Taylor Expansion correct?

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
1
down vote

favorite












I tried to prove the following lemma:




Lemma. Let $f,g:mathscr U_x_0to mathbb R$ differentiable $n$ times in $x_0$. Then
$$f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n)iff f^(k)(x_0)=g^(k)(x_0), 0le kle n$$




Proof. (by induction)



The claim is true for $k=0$, let's suppose it is also true for $k=n$, and let's prove it for $k=n+1$:



"$(f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1)implies f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= 0$$



Now my thought is using L'Hopital $n$ times to achieve



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= frac1(n+1)!lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)-overbrace(f^(n)(x_0)-g^(n)(x_0))^= 0text for induction x-x_0=0$$



"$(f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0)implies f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=0$$
Applying L'Hopital the other way around (that is, going back to the primitive), I got



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=n!lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1=0$$



I am not sure about the boxed equalities.







share|cite|improve this question

















  • 1




    Since you already have a fixed $n$ in the hypothesis, it would be better to refer to induction on $k$, for $kleq n$.... Have you tried induction on $k$ using the Reminder Formula for a power series ?
    – DanielWainfleet
    Jul 15 at 21:57










  • Your approach is fine except for the fact that you apply L'Hopital $(n+1)$ times. You can only apply it $n$ times.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:42










  • Also you don't need induction. L'Hospital's Rule alone gives the implication in question.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:51










  • @DanielWainfleet you are right, I should refer to $k$
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:26










  • @ParamanandSingh in fact I did apply it $n$ times but I wrote $n+1$, thank you for the correction
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:27














up vote
1
down vote

favorite












I tried to prove the following lemma:




Lemma. Let $f,g:mathscr U_x_0to mathbb R$ differentiable $n$ times in $x_0$. Then
$$f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n)iff f^(k)(x_0)=g^(k)(x_0), 0le kle n$$




Proof. (by induction)



The claim is true for $k=0$, let's suppose it is also true for $k=n$, and let's prove it for $k=n+1$:



"$(f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1)implies f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= 0$$



Now my thought is using L'Hopital $n$ times to achieve



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= frac1(n+1)!lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)-overbrace(f^(n)(x_0)-g^(n)(x_0))^= 0text for induction x-x_0=0$$



"$(f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0)implies f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=0$$
Applying L'Hopital the other way around (that is, going back to the primitive), I got



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=n!lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1=0$$



I am not sure about the boxed equalities.







share|cite|improve this question

















  • 1




    Since you already have a fixed $n$ in the hypothesis, it would be better to refer to induction on $k$, for $kleq n$.... Have you tried induction on $k$ using the Reminder Formula for a power series ?
    – DanielWainfleet
    Jul 15 at 21:57










  • Your approach is fine except for the fact that you apply L'Hopital $(n+1)$ times. You can only apply it $n$ times.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:42










  • Also you don't need induction. L'Hospital's Rule alone gives the implication in question.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:51










  • @DanielWainfleet you are right, I should refer to $k$
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:26










  • @ParamanandSingh in fact I did apply it $n$ times but I wrote $n+1$, thank you for the correction
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:27












up vote
1
down vote

favorite









up vote
1
down vote

favorite











I tried to prove the following lemma:




Lemma. Let $f,g:mathscr U_x_0to mathbb R$ differentiable $n$ times in $x_0$. Then
$$f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n)iff f^(k)(x_0)=g^(k)(x_0), 0le kle n$$




Proof. (by induction)



The claim is true for $k=0$, let's suppose it is also true for $k=n$, and let's prove it for $k=n+1$:



"$(f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1)implies f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= 0$$



Now my thought is using L'Hopital $n$ times to achieve



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= frac1(n+1)!lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)-overbrace(f^(n)(x_0)-g^(n)(x_0))^= 0text for induction x-x_0=0$$



"$(f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0)implies f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=0$$
Applying L'Hopital the other way around (that is, going back to the primitive), I got



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=n!lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1=0$$



I am not sure about the boxed equalities.







share|cite|improve this question













I tried to prove the following lemma:




Lemma. Let $f,g:mathscr U_x_0to mathbb R$ differentiable $n$ times in $x_0$. Then
$$f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n)iff f^(k)(x_0)=g^(k)(x_0), 0le kle n$$




Proof. (by induction)



The claim is true for $k=0$, let's suppose it is also true for $k=n$, and let's prove it for $k=n+1$:



"$(f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1)implies f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= 0$$



Now my thought is using L'Hopital $n$ times to achieve



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1= frac1(n+1)!lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)-overbrace(f^(n)(x_0)-g^(n)(x_0))^= 0text for induction x-x_0=0$$



"$(f^(n+1)(x_0)=g^(n+1)(x_0)implies f(x)-g(x)=o((x-x_0)^n+1))$"



$$lim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=0$$
Applying L'Hopital the other way around (that is, going back to the primitive), I got



$$boxedlim_xto x_0fracf^(n)(x)-g^(n)(x)x-x_0=n!lim_xto x_0fracf(x)-g(x)(x-x_0)^n+1=0$$



I am not sure about the boxed equalities.









share|cite|improve this question












share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Jul 16 at 9:28
























asked Jul 15 at 17:10









Lorenzo B.

1,5402418




1,5402418







  • 1




    Since you already have a fixed $n$ in the hypothesis, it would be better to refer to induction on $k$, for $kleq n$.... Have you tried induction on $k$ using the Reminder Formula for a power series ?
    – DanielWainfleet
    Jul 15 at 21:57










  • Your approach is fine except for the fact that you apply L'Hopital $(n+1)$ times. You can only apply it $n$ times.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:42










  • Also you don't need induction. L'Hospital's Rule alone gives the implication in question.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:51










  • @DanielWainfleet you are right, I should refer to $k$
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:26










  • @ParamanandSingh in fact I did apply it $n$ times but I wrote $n+1$, thank you for the correction
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:27












  • 1




    Since you already have a fixed $n$ in the hypothesis, it would be better to refer to induction on $k$, for $kleq n$.... Have you tried induction on $k$ using the Reminder Formula for a power series ?
    – DanielWainfleet
    Jul 15 at 21:57










  • Your approach is fine except for the fact that you apply L'Hopital $(n+1)$ times. You can only apply it $n$ times.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:42










  • Also you don't need induction. L'Hospital's Rule alone gives the implication in question.
    – Paramanand Singh
    Jul 16 at 8:51










  • @DanielWainfleet you are right, I should refer to $k$
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:26










  • @ParamanandSingh in fact I did apply it $n$ times but I wrote $n+1$, thank you for the correction
    – Lorenzo B.
    Jul 16 at 9:27







1




1




Since you already have a fixed $n$ in the hypothesis, it would be better to refer to induction on $k$, for $kleq n$.... Have you tried induction on $k$ using the Reminder Formula for a power series ?
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 15 at 21:57




Since you already have a fixed $n$ in the hypothesis, it would be better to refer to induction on $k$, for $kleq n$.... Have you tried induction on $k$ using the Reminder Formula for a power series ?
– DanielWainfleet
Jul 15 at 21:57












Your approach is fine except for the fact that you apply L'Hopital $(n+1)$ times. You can only apply it $n$ times.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 16 at 8:42




Your approach is fine except for the fact that you apply L'Hopital $(n+1)$ times. You can only apply it $n$ times.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 16 at 8:42












Also you don't need induction. L'Hospital's Rule alone gives the implication in question.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 16 at 8:51




Also you don't need induction. L'Hospital's Rule alone gives the implication in question.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 16 at 8:51












@DanielWainfleet you are right, I should refer to $k$
– Lorenzo B.
Jul 16 at 9:26




@DanielWainfleet you are right, I should refer to $k$
– Lorenzo B.
Jul 16 at 9:26












@ParamanandSingh in fact I did apply it $n$ times but I wrote $n+1$, thank you for the correction
– Lorenzo B.
Jul 16 at 9:27




@ParamanandSingh in fact I did apply it $n$ times but I wrote $n+1$, thank you for the correction
– Lorenzo B.
Jul 16 at 9:27















active

oldest

votes











Your Answer




StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);

else
createEditor();

);

function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: false,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);



);








 

draft saved


draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2852681%2fis-my-proof-of-this-lemma-about-taylor-expansion-correct%23new-answer', 'question_page');

);

Post as a guest



































active

oldest

votes













active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes










 

draft saved


draft discarded


























 


draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2852681%2fis-my-proof-of-this-lemma-about-taylor-expansion-correct%23new-answer', 'question_page');

);

Post as a guest













































































Comments

Popular posts from this blog

What is the equation of a 3D cone with generalised tilt?

Color the edges and diagonals of a regular polygon

Relationship between determinant of matrix and determinant of adjoint?