maximum interval of existence of a solution of differential equations
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I have these initial value problems:
$x⋅u'(x) = u(x) + x^3⋅e^x^2$; $u(1)=e/2$
$u'(x) = 2xcdot u(x)^3$; $u(0) = a$; ($a in mathbb R$, hint: case differentiation)
$x^3⋅u'(x)-u(x)^3-x^2⋅u(x) = 0$; $u(1)=1$
I think, I already solved them correctly, with these solutions:
$u(x) = dfracxe^x^22$
$u(x) = dfrac1sqrt-2x^2+frac1a^2$
$u(x) = dfracxsqrt-2log(x)+1$
How can I find the maximum interval of existence now?
I hope y'all understand me, I'm not a native english speaker.
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I have these initial value problems:
$x⋅u'(x) = u(x) + x^3⋅e^x^2$; $u(1)=e/2$
$u'(x) = 2xcdot u(x)^3$; $u(0) = a$; ($a in mathbb R$, hint: case differentiation)
$x^3⋅u'(x)-u(x)^3-x^2⋅u(x) = 0$; $u(1)=1$
I think, I already solved them correctly, with these solutions:
$u(x) = dfracxe^x^22$
$u(x) = dfrac1sqrt-2x^2+frac1a^2$
$u(x) = dfracxsqrt-2log(x)+1$
How can I find the maximum interval of existence now?
I hope y'all understand me, I'm not a native english speaker.
differential-equations analysis
Can you show your work for these solutions? I don't think the first one is right
– Dylan
Jul 15 at 17:41
How can I send pics here? I have it on paper
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:29
Oh wait the fraction line should be under the whole pruduct including e, then it's correct right?
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:32
I fixed the fraction for you. Your initial post was a bit ambiguous, so I don't blame the editor. Here's a quick tutorial for the math formatting on this site
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 8:57
Ah that's very kind
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:00
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I have these initial value problems:
$x⋅u'(x) = u(x) + x^3⋅e^x^2$; $u(1)=e/2$
$u'(x) = 2xcdot u(x)^3$; $u(0) = a$; ($a in mathbb R$, hint: case differentiation)
$x^3⋅u'(x)-u(x)^3-x^2⋅u(x) = 0$; $u(1)=1$
I think, I already solved them correctly, with these solutions:
$u(x) = dfracxe^x^22$
$u(x) = dfrac1sqrt-2x^2+frac1a^2$
$u(x) = dfracxsqrt-2log(x)+1$
How can I find the maximum interval of existence now?
I hope y'all understand me, I'm not a native english speaker.
differential-equations analysis
I have these initial value problems:
$x⋅u'(x) = u(x) + x^3⋅e^x^2$; $u(1)=e/2$
$u'(x) = 2xcdot u(x)^3$; $u(0) = a$; ($a in mathbb R$, hint: case differentiation)
$x^3⋅u'(x)-u(x)^3-x^2⋅u(x) = 0$; $u(1)=1$
I think, I already solved them correctly, with these solutions:
$u(x) = dfracxe^x^22$
$u(x) = dfrac1sqrt-2x^2+frac1a^2$
$u(x) = dfracxsqrt-2log(x)+1$
How can I find the maximum interval of existence now?
I hope y'all understand me, I'm not a native english speaker.
differential-equations analysis
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Can you show your work for these solutions? I don't think the first one is right
– Dylan
Jul 15 at 17:41
How can I send pics here? I have it on paper
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:29
Oh wait the fraction line should be under the whole pruduct including e, then it's correct right?
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:32
I fixed the fraction for you. Your initial post was a bit ambiguous, so I don't blame the editor. Here's a quick tutorial for the math formatting on this site
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 8:57
Ah that's very kind
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:00
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Can you show your work for these solutions? I don't think the first one is right
– Dylan
Jul 15 at 17:41
How can I send pics here? I have it on paper
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:29
Oh wait the fraction line should be under the whole pruduct including e, then it's correct right?
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:32
I fixed the fraction for you. Your initial post was a bit ambiguous, so I don't blame the editor. Here's a quick tutorial for the math formatting on this site
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 8:57
Ah that's very kind
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:00
Can you show your work for these solutions? I don't think the first one is right
– Dylan
Jul 15 at 17:41
Can you show your work for these solutions? I don't think the first one is right
– Dylan
Jul 15 at 17:41
How can I send pics here? I have it on paper
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:29
How can I send pics here? I have it on paper
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:29
Oh wait the fraction line should be under the whole pruduct including e, then it's correct right?
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:32
Oh wait the fraction line should be under the whole pruduct including e, then it's correct right?
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:32
I fixed the fraction for you. Your initial post was a bit ambiguous, so I don't blame the editor. Here's a quick tutorial for the math formatting on this site
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 8:57
I fixed the fraction for you. Your initial post was a bit ambiguous, so I don't blame the editor. Here's a quick tutorial for the math formatting on this site
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 8:57
Ah that's very kind
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:00
Ah that's very kind
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:00
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The first DE equation is defined for $xneq 0$ and hence the solution is defined either in $(-infty, 0)$ or in $(0, infty)$. The second interval contains the initial point $x=1$, so the maximal interval is $(0, infty)$. Also the unique solution is $y=frac12x^2+frace-12x$.
For the second one consider two cases $a=0$ and $aneq 0$ separately. When $a=0$ the IVP has a unique solution $u=0$ defined for all $x$, so maximal interval is $(-infty, infty)$. For $aneq 0$, it follows from your solution that you must determine an interval satisfying the inequality $-x^2+1/a^2>0$ and contain the initial point $x=0$. This interval would be your maxiamal interval of existence. I think you can do the last one by yourself. In this case observe that the DE is defined for all $xneq 0$.
Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
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I will briefly go through each problem, but it's up to you to fill in the details.
- Rewrite the equation in standard form
$$ u' -frac1xu = x^2e^x^2 $$
This is a standard first-order linear equation. The integrating factor is $mu = e^int -frac1xdx = e^-ln x = x^-1$. Multiplying through, we can simplify
$$ left(fracuxright)' = xe^x^2 implies fracux = frac12e^x^2 + c $$
The initial condition gives $c=0$, confirming your solution is correct.
As for the domain of existence, notice the coefficient of $u$ in the standard form is $1/x$, which is undefined at $x=0$, making it a singular point. Therefore, the domain can only be one of $(-infty,0)$ or $(0,infty)$. The one that contains the given initial point is the answer here.
- Upon separating and integrating, you end up with the solution
$$ frac1u^2 = frac1a^2 - 2x^2 $$
Since the left hand side cannot be negative, a required condition is $2x^2 le frac1a^2$ or $|x| le frac1sqrt2$. This is your domain.
Do note that $a$ can still be negative, so it's preferrable to rewrite the solution as
$$ u = fracasqrt1-2a^2x^2 $$
- This is a Bernoulli equation. The substitution $y=u^-2$ transforms the equation to one that's similar to problem 1, and you'll once again find that $x=0$ is a singular point. You'll also want to restrict the domain further so that $y = u^-2 ge 0$, just like in problem 2.
Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
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The first DE equation is defined for $xneq 0$ and hence the solution is defined either in $(-infty, 0)$ or in $(0, infty)$. The second interval contains the initial point $x=1$, so the maximal interval is $(0, infty)$. Also the unique solution is $y=frac12x^2+frace-12x$.
For the second one consider two cases $a=0$ and $aneq 0$ separately. When $a=0$ the IVP has a unique solution $u=0$ defined for all $x$, so maximal interval is $(-infty, infty)$. For $aneq 0$, it follows from your solution that you must determine an interval satisfying the inequality $-x^2+1/a^2>0$ and contain the initial point $x=0$. This interval would be your maxiamal interval of existence. I think you can do the last one by yourself. In this case observe that the DE is defined for all $xneq 0$.
Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
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The first DE equation is defined for $xneq 0$ and hence the solution is defined either in $(-infty, 0)$ or in $(0, infty)$. The second interval contains the initial point $x=1$, so the maximal interval is $(0, infty)$. Also the unique solution is $y=frac12x^2+frace-12x$.
For the second one consider two cases $a=0$ and $aneq 0$ separately. When $a=0$ the IVP has a unique solution $u=0$ defined for all $x$, so maximal interval is $(-infty, infty)$. For $aneq 0$, it follows from your solution that you must determine an interval satisfying the inequality $-x^2+1/a^2>0$ and contain the initial point $x=0$. This interval would be your maxiamal interval of existence. I think you can do the last one by yourself. In this case observe that the DE is defined for all $xneq 0$.
Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
add a comment |Â
up vote
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up vote
0
down vote
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The first DE equation is defined for $xneq 0$ and hence the solution is defined either in $(-infty, 0)$ or in $(0, infty)$. The second interval contains the initial point $x=1$, so the maximal interval is $(0, infty)$. Also the unique solution is $y=frac12x^2+frace-12x$.
For the second one consider two cases $a=0$ and $aneq 0$ separately. When $a=0$ the IVP has a unique solution $u=0$ defined for all $x$, so maximal interval is $(-infty, infty)$. For $aneq 0$, it follows from your solution that you must determine an interval satisfying the inequality $-x^2+1/a^2>0$ and contain the initial point $x=0$. This interval would be your maxiamal interval of existence. I think you can do the last one by yourself. In this case observe that the DE is defined for all $xneq 0$.
The first DE equation is defined for $xneq 0$ and hence the solution is defined either in $(-infty, 0)$ or in $(0, infty)$. The second interval contains the initial point $x=1$, so the maximal interval is $(0, infty)$. Also the unique solution is $y=frac12x^2+frace-12x$.
For the second one consider two cases $a=0$ and $aneq 0$ separately. When $a=0$ the IVP has a unique solution $u=0$ defined for all $x$, so maximal interval is $(-infty, infty)$. For $aneq 0$, it follows from your solution that you must determine an interval satisfying the inequality $-x^2+1/a^2>0$ and contain the initial point $x=0$. This interval would be your maxiamal interval of existence. I think you can do the last one by yourself. In this case observe that the DE is defined for all $xneq 0$.
answered Jul 16 at 0:11
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Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
add a comment |Â
Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Thank you very much!!
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 8:41
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
Why is the first one not defined for x=0?
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:09
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
because for this particular equation as the coefficient of $u'$, the leading term is $x$ which must be nonzero. So you should omit it from the definition of the solution. Also you can see what happens when you take $x=0$?
– daulomb
Jul 16 at 9:41
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
I will briefly go through each problem, but it's up to you to fill in the details.
- Rewrite the equation in standard form
$$ u' -frac1xu = x^2e^x^2 $$
This is a standard first-order linear equation. The integrating factor is $mu = e^int -frac1xdx = e^-ln x = x^-1$. Multiplying through, we can simplify
$$ left(fracuxright)' = xe^x^2 implies fracux = frac12e^x^2 + c $$
The initial condition gives $c=0$, confirming your solution is correct.
As for the domain of existence, notice the coefficient of $u$ in the standard form is $1/x$, which is undefined at $x=0$, making it a singular point. Therefore, the domain can only be one of $(-infty,0)$ or $(0,infty)$. The one that contains the given initial point is the answer here.
- Upon separating and integrating, you end up with the solution
$$ frac1u^2 = frac1a^2 - 2x^2 $$
Since the left hand side cannot be negative, a required condition is $2x^2 le frac1a^2$ or $|x| le frac1sqrt2$. This is your domain.
Do note that $a$ can still be negative, so it's preferrable to rewrite the solution as
$$ u = fracasqrt1-2a^2x^2 $$
- This is a Bernoulli equation. The substitution $y=u^-2$ transforms the equation to one that's similar to problem 1, and you'll once again find that $x=0$ is a singular point. You'll also want to restrict the domain further so that $y = u^-2 ge 0$, just like in problem 2.
Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
I will briefly go through each problem, but it's up to you to fill in the details.
- Rewrite the equation in standard form
$$ u' -frac1xu = x^2e^x^2 $$
This is a standard first-order linear equation. The integrating factor is $mu = e^int -frac1xdx = e^-ln x = x^-1$. Multiplying through, we can simplify
$$ left(fracuxright)' = xe^x^2 implies fracux = frac12e^x^2 + c $$
The initial condition gives $c=0$, confirming your solution is correct.
As for the domain of existence, notice the coefficient of $u$ in the standard form is $1/x$, which is undefined at $x=0$, making it a singular point. Therefore, the domain can only be one of $(-infty,0)$ or $(0,infty)$. The one that contains the given initial point is the answer here.
- Upon separating and integrating, you end up with the solution
$$ frac1u^2 = frac1a^2 - 2x^2 $$
Since the left hand side cannot be negative, a required condition is $2x^2 le frac1a^2$ or $|x| le frac1sqrt2$. This is your domain.
Do note that $a$ can still be negative, so it's preferrable to rewrite the solution as
$$ u = fracasqrt1-2a^2x^2 $$
- This is a Bernoulli equation. The substitution $y=u^-2$ transforms the equation to one that's similar to problem 1, and you'll once again find that $x=0$ is a singular point. You'll also want to restrict the domain further so that $y = u^-2 ge 0$, just like in problem 2.
Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
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I will briefly go through each problem, but it's up to you to fill in the details.
- Rewrite the equation in standard form
$$ u' -frac1xu = x^2e^x^2 $$
This is a standard first-order linear equation. The integrating factor is $mu = e^int -frac1xdx = e^-ln x = x^-1$. Multiplying through, we can simplify
$$ left(fracuxright)' = xe^x^2 implies fracux = frac12e^x^2 + c $$
The initial condition gives $c=0$, confirming your solution is correct.
As for the domain of existence, notice the coefficient of $u$ in the standard form is $1/x$, which is undefined at $x=0$, making it a singular point. Therefore, the domain can only be one of $(-infty,0)$ or $(0,infty)$. The one that contains the given initial point is the answer here.
- Upon separating and integrating, you end up with the solution
$$ frac1u^2 = frac1a^2 - 2x^2 $$
Since the left hand side cannot be negative, a required condition is $2x^2 le frac1a^2$ or $|x| le frac1sqrt2$. This is your domain.
Do note that $a$ can still be negative, so it's preferrable to rewrite the solution as
$$ u = fracasqrt1-2a^2x^2 $$
- This is a Bernoulli equation. The substitution $y=u^-2$ transforms the equation to one that's similar to problem 1, and you'll once again find that $x=0$ is a singular point. You'll also want to restrict the domain further so that $y = u^-2 ge 0$, just like in problem 2.
I will briefly go through each problem, but it's up to you to fill in the details.
- Rewrite the equation in standard form
$$ u' -frac1xu = x^2e^x^2 $$
This is a standard first-order linear equation. The integrating factor is $mu = e^int -frac1xdx = e^-ln x = x^-1$. Multiplying through, we can simplify
$$ left(fracuxright)' = xe^x^2 implies fracux = frac12e^x^2 + c $$
The initial condition gives $c=0$, confirming your solution is correct.
As for the domain of existence, notice the coefficient of $u$ in the standard form is $1/x$, which is undefined at $x=0$, making it a singular point. Therefore, the domain can only be one of $(-infty,0)$ or $(0,infty)$. The one that contains the given initial point is the answer here.
- Upon separating and integrating, you end up with the solution
$$ frac1u^2 = frac1a^2 - 2x^2 $$
Since the left hand side cannot be negative, a required condition is $2x^2 le frac1a^2$ or $|x| le frac1sqrt2$. This is your domain.
Do note that $a$ can still be negative, so it's preferrable to rewrite the solution as
$$ u = fracasqrt1-2a^2x^2 $$
- This is a Bernoulli equation. The substitution $y=u^-2$ transforms the equation to one that's similar to problem 1, and you'll once again find that $x=0$ is a singular point. You'll also want to restrict the domain further so that $y = u^-2 ge 0$, just like in problem 2.
edited Jul 16 at 9:52
answered Jul 16 at 9:20
Dylan
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Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
add a comment |Â
Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
Thank you very much for that detailed answer, seems like I have a big lack of knowledge, cause I'm not really able to follow your first calculation :/
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:36
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
For the first problem? What did you do to obtain the solution then?
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 9:52
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
Sorry for the late answer. I was going to send a Foto of my calculation, but that didn't work. However we just talked about the exercises in class and the teacher said, the domain of existence of the first equation is R
– Joshua
Jul 19 at 14:06
add a comment |Â
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Can you show your work for these solutions? I don't think the first one is right
– Dylan
Jul 15 at 17:41
How can I send pics here? I have it on paper
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:29
Oh wait the fraction line should be under the whole pruduct including e, then it's correct right?
– Joshua
Jul 15 at 21:32
I fixed the fraction for you. Your initial post was a bit ambiguous, so I don't blame the editor. Here's a quick tutorial for the math formatting on this site
– Dylan
Jul 16 at 8:57
Ah that's very kind
– Joshua
Jul 16 at 9:00