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Suppose, I have two inequalities as follows:



$$x^2>1tag1$$
$$y<-1tag2$$



Is it possible to form a new inequality by combining $(1)$ and $(2)$ where the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers?







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  • A common axiom of an ordered filed is "if $0 ≤ a $ and $0 ≤ b$ then $0 ≤ a times b$" which can easily be extended to "if $0 lt a lt c$ and $0 lt b lt d$ then $0 lt a times b lt c times d$" so get your inequalities into that form
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Suppose, I have two inequalities as follows:



$$x^2>1tag1$$
$$y<-1tag2$$



Is it possible to form a new inequality by combining $(1)$ and $(2)$ where the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers?







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  • A common axiom of an ordered filed is "if $0 ≤ a $ and $0 ≤ b$ then $0 ≤ a times b$" which can easily be extended to "if $0 lt a lt c$ and $0 lt b lt d$ then $0 lt a times b lt c times d$" so get your inequalities into that form
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Suppose, I have two inequalities as follows:



$$x^2>1tag1$$
$$y<-1tag2$$



Is it possible to form a new inequality by combining $(1)$ and $(2)$ where the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers?







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Suppose, I have two inequalities as follows:



$$x^2>1tag1$$
$$y<-1tag2$$



Is it possible to form a new inequality by combining $(1)$ and $(2)$ where the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers?









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  • A common axiom of an ordered filed is "if $0 ≤ a $ and $0 ≤ b$ then $0 ≤ a times b$" which can easily be extended to "if $0 lt a lt c$ and $0 lt b lt d$ then $0 lt a times b lt c times d$" so get your inequalities into that form
    – Henry
    Jul 15 at 20:04

















  • A common axiom of an ordered filed is "if $0 ≤ a $ and $0 ≤ b$ then $0 ≤ a times b$" which can easily be extended to "if $0 lt a lt c$ and $0 lt b lt d$ then $0 lt a times b lt c times d$" so get your inequalities into that form
    – Henry
    Jul 15 at 20:04
















A common axiom of an ordered filed is "if $0 ≤ a $ and $0 ≤ b$ then $0 ≤ a times b$" which can easily be extended to "if $0 lt a lt c$ and $0 lt b lt d$ then $0 lt a times b lt c times d$" so get your inequalities into that form
– Henry
Jul 15 at 20:04





A common axiom of an ordered filed is "if $0 ≤ a $ and $0 ≤ b$ then $0 ≤ a times b$" which can easily be extended to "if $0 lt a lt c$ and $0 lt b lt d$ then $0 lt a times b lt c times d$" so get your inequalities into that form
– Henry
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You can multiply $$x^2>1tag1$$ by a positive number without changing the direction of inequality.



In this case since $$ y<-1tag2$$ we have $$-y>1$$ so you may multiply $$x^2>1$$ by $-y$ to get $$-x^2y>-y>1implies-x^2y>1 $$ which is the same as multiplying the two inequalities $$-y>1$$ and $$x^2>1$$






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  • You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
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We have $y<-1iff -y>1>0$. So $-y>1$ and $x^2>1$. Notice that both sides of these two inequalities are non-negative, thus we can multiply them. So we have $-y cdot x^2>1 cdot 1=1$.






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    The two basic axioms are:



    If $a < b$ then $a + c < b + c$ for all $c$



    If $a < b$ and $c > 0$ then $ac < bc$.



    From there there are some basic propositions that can be proven with those two axioms:



    If $a > 0$ then $-a < 0$.



    If $a < b$ and $c < 0$ then $ac > bc$.



    And $1 > 0$. and for $cne 0$ then $c^2 > 0$.



    ....



    So if $x^2 > 1$ and $y < - 1<0$ then $x^2cdot y < 1cdot y = y < -1$.



    That's it.






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      You can multiply $$x^2>1tag1$$ by a positive number without changing the direction of inequality.



      In this case since $$ y<-1tag2$$ we have $$-y>1$$ so you may multiply $$x^2>1$$ by $-y$ to get $$-x^2y>-y>1implies-x^2y>1 $$ which is the same as multiplying the two inequalities $$-y>1$$ and $$x^2>1$$






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      • You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
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      You can multiply $$x^2>1tag1$$ by a positive number without changing the direction of inequality.



      In this case since $$ y<-1tag2$$ we have $$-y>1$$ so you may multiply $$x^2>1$$ by $-y$ to get $$-x^2y>-y>1implies-x^2y>1 $$ which is the same as multiplying the two inequalities $$-y>1$$ and $$x^2>1$$






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      • You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
        – Henry
        Jul 15 at 20:07












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      You can multiply $$x^2>1tag1$$ by a positive number without changing the direction of inequality.



      In this case since $$ y<-1tag2$$ we have $$-y>1$$ so you may multiply $$x^2>1$$ by $-y$ to get $$-x^2y>-y>1implies-x^2y>1 $$ which is the same as multiplying the two inequalities $$-y>1$$ and $$x^2>1$$






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      You can multiply $$x^2>1tag1$$ by a positive number without changing the direction of inequality.



      In this case since $$ y<-1tag2$$ we have $$-y>1$$ so you may multiply $$x^2>1$$ by $-y$ to get $$-x^2y>-y>1implies-x^2y>1 $$ which is the same as multiplying the two inequalities $$-y>1$$ and $$x^2>1$$







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      • You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
        – Henry
        Jul 15 at 20:07
















      • You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
        – Henry
        Jul 15 at 20:07















      You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
      – Henry
      Jul 15 at 20:07




      You could then easily get to the question's the left-hand side would contain $x^2y$ and the right-hand side would contain only numbers with $x^2y lt -1$
      – Henry
      Jul 15 at 20:07










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      We have $y<-1iff -y>1>0$. So $-y>1$ and $x^2>1$. Notice that both sides of these two inequalities are non-negative, thus we can multiply them. So we have $-y cdot x^2>1 cdot 1=1$.






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        We have $y<-1iff -y>1>0$. So $-y>1$ and $x^2>1$. Notice that both sides of these two inequalities are non-negative, thus we can multiply them. So we have $-y cdot x^2>1 cdot 1=1$.






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          We have $y<-1iff -y>1>0$. So $-y>1$ and $x^2>1$. Notice that both sides of these two inequalities are non-negative, thus we can multiply them. So we have $-y cdot x^2>1 cdot 1=1$.






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          We have $y<-1iff -y>1>0$. So $-y>1$ and $x^2>1$. Notice that both sides of these two inequalities are non-negative, thus we can multiply them. So we have $-y cdot x^2>1 cdot 1=1$.







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              The two basic axioms are:



              If $a < b$ then $a + c < b + c$ for all $c$



              If $a < b$ and $c > 0$ then $ac < bc$.



              From there there are some basic propositions that can be proven with those two axioms:



              If $a > 0$ then $-a < 0$.



              If $a < b$ and $c < 0$ then $ac > bc$.



              And $1 > 0$. and for $cne 0$ then $c^2 > 0$.



              ....



              So if $x^2 > 1$ and $y < - 1<0$ then $x^2cdot y < 1cdot y = y < -1$.



              That's it.






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                The two basic axioms are:



                If $a < b$ then $a + c < b + c$ for all $c$



                If $a < b$ and $c > 0$ then $ac < bc$.



                From there there are some basic propositions that can be proven with those two axioms:



                If $a > 0$ then $-a < 0$.



                If $a < b$ and $c < 0$ then $ac > bc$.



                And $1 > 0$. and for $cne 0$ then $c^2 > 0$.



                ....



                So if $x^2 > 1$ and $y < - 1<0$ then $x^2cdot y < 1cdot y = y < -1$.



                That's it.






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                  The two basic axioms are:



                  If $a < b$ then $a + c < b + c$ for all $c$



                  If $a < b$ and $c > 0$ then $ac < bc$.



                  From there there are some basic propositions that can be proven with those two axioms:



                  If $a > 0$ then $-a < 0$.



                  If $a < b$ and $c < 0$ then $ac > bc$.



                  And $1 > 0$. and for $cne 0$ then $c^2 > 0$.



                  ....



                  So if $x^2 > 1$ and $y < - 1<0$ then $x^2cdot y < 1cdot y = y < -1$.



                  That's it.






                  share|cite|improve this answer















                  The two basic axioms are:



                  If $a < b$ then $a + c < b + c$ for all $c$



                  If $a < b$ and $c > 0$ then $ac < bc$.



                  From there there are some basic propositions that can be proven with those two axioms:



                  If $a > 0$ then $-a < 0$.



                  If $a < b$ and $c < 0$ then $ac > bc$.



                  And $1 > 0$. and for $cne 0$ then $c^2 > 0$.



                  ....



                  So if $x^2 > 1$ and $y < - 1<0$ then $x^2cdot y < 1cdot y = y < -1$.



                  That's it.







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