What do you call this property involving a function between two complete metric spaces?

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I have a notion, for which I am not able to find any reference name, as I am not that familiar with these concepts. Please help me by pointing to a definition for the below scenario.



Is there a name for the following property of the setup?



There is a a continuous and onto function $e : A to B$, $A$ and $B$ being two different complete metric spaces.



For any element $bin B$, and for any element $a in e^-1(b)$,



(where $e^-1(b)$ is the pre-image of the element $b$ in the function $e$),



For every punctured neighbourhood of $b$ denoted as $P_epsilon(b)$, the pre-image $e^-1(P_epsilon(b))$ contains a sequence $a_n$, such that $a_n to a$







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  • By $e(b_n)$ did you mean something like "an element of $e^-1(b_n)$?
    – Mark S.
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • If the $b_n$ are elements of $B$, it does not make sense to look at $e(b_n)$.
    – Keenan Kidwell
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • @KeenanKidwell : Sorry I messed up. Let me correct it.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 15:49










  • @MarkS. : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03










  • @KeenanKidwell : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03














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I have a notion, for which I am not able to find any reference name, as I am not that familiar with these concepts. Please help me by pointing to a definition for the below scenario.



Is there a name for the following property of the setup?



There is a a continuous and onto function $e : A to B$, $A$ and $B$ being two different complete metric spaces.



For any element $bin B$, and for any element $a in e^-1(b)$,



(where $e^-1(b)$ is the pre-image of the element $b$ in the function $e$),



For every punctured neighbourhood of $b$ denoted as $P_epsilon(b)$, the pre-image $e^-1(P_epsilon(b))$ contains a sequence $a_n$, such that $a_n to a$







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  • By $e(b_n)$ did you mean something like "an element of $e^-1(b_n)$?
    – Mark S.
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • If the $b_n$ are elements of $B$, it does not make sense to look at $e(b_n)$.
    – Keenan Kidwell
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • @KeenanKidwell : Sorry I messed up. Let me correct it.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 15:49










  • @MarkS. : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03










  • @KeenanKidwell : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03












up vote
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up vote
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I have a notion, for which I am not able to find any reference name, as I am not that familiar with these concepts. Please help me by pointing to a definition for the below scenario.



Is there a name for the following property of the setup?



There is a a continuous and onto function $e : A to B$, $A$ and $B$ being two different complete metric spaces.



For any element $bin B$, and for any element $a in e^-1(b)$,



(where $e^-1(b)$ is the pre-image of the element $b$ in the function $e$),



For every punctured neighbourhood of $b$ denoted as $P_epsilon(b)$, the pre-image $e^-1(P_epsilon(b))$ contains a sequence $a_n$, such that $a_n to a$







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I have a notion, for which I am not able to find any reference name, as I am not that familiar with these concepts. Please help me by pointing to a definition for the below scenario.



Is there a name for the following property of the setup?



There is a a continuous and onto function $e : A to B$, $A$ and $B$ being two different complete metric spaces.



For any element $bin B$, and for any element $a in e^-1(b)$,



(where $e^-1(b)$ is the pre-image of the element $b$ in the function $e$),



For every punctured neighbourhood of $b$ denoted as $P_epsilon(b)$, the pre-image $e^-1(P_epsilon(b))$ contains a sequence $a_n$, such that $a_n to a$









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  • By $e(b_n)$ did you mean something like "an element of $e^-1(b_n)$?
    – Mark S.
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • If the $b_n$ are elements of $B$, it does not make sense to look at $e(b_n)$.
    – Keenan Kidwell
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • @KeenanKidwell : Sorry I messed up. Let me correct it.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 15:49










  • @MarkS. : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03










  • @KeenanKidwell : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03
















  • By $e(b_n)$ did you mean something like "an element of $e^-1(b_n)$?
    – Mark S.
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • If the $b_n$ are elements of $B$, it does not make sense to look at $e(b_n)$.
    – Keenan Kidwell
    Jul 28 at 15:47










  • @KeenanKidwell : Sorry I messed up. Let me correct it.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 15:49










  • @MarkS. : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03










  • @KeenanKidwell : I have corrected.
    – Rajesh Dachiraju
    Jul 28 at 16:03















By $e(b_n)$ did you mean something like "an element of $e^-1(b_n)$?
– Mark S.
Jul 28 at 15:47




By $e(b_n)$ did you mean something like "an element of $e^-1(b_n)$?
– Mark S.
Jul 28 at 15:47












If the $b_n$ are elements of $B$, it does not make sense to look at $e(b_n)$.
– Keenan Kidwell
Jul 28 at 15:47




If the $b_n$ are elements of $B$, it does not make sense to look at $e(b_n)$.
– Keenan Kidwell
Jul 28 at 15:47












@KeenanKidwell : Sorry I messed up. Let me correct it.
– Rajesh Dachiraju
Jul 28 at 15:49




@KeenanKidwell : Sorry I messed up. Let me correct it.
– Rajesh Dachiraju
Jul 28 at 15:49












@MarkS. : I have corrected.
– Rajesh Dachiraju
Jul 28 at 16:03




@MarkS. : I have corrected.
– Rajesh Dachiraju
Jul 28 at 16:03












@KeenanKidwell : I have corrected.
– Rajesh Dachiraju
Jul 28 at 16:03




@KeenanKidwell : I have corrected.
– Rajesh Dachiraju
Jul 28 at 16:03










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Let us call the property described in question as Property P. Continuing the observations made in Stefan Böttner's answer we get the following.



Observation. Let $A$ and $B$ be metric spaces and $ecolon Ato B$ be a continuous function. Then $e$ has the Property P if and only if $A$ has no isolated points and $e$ is nowhere constant. (I am not sure to which extent this is a standard therm, but it seems to ba a natural name for this. It also appears in some books.)



By nowhere constant I mean that there is no non-empty open subset $Usubseteq A$ such that $e|_U$ is constant.



Proof. $boxedRightarrow$ If $a$ is any point of $A$ then property P implies existence of a sequence converging to $a$, hence $a$ is not isolated.



Let $Uneemptyset$ and $ain U$. Let $b=e(a)$. Let $varepsilon>0$. The set $e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$ contains sequence $(a_n)$ converging to $a$. Starting with some $n_0$, terms of these sequence belong to $U$ and we also have $e(a_n)ne e(b)$. Therefore $e|_U$



$boxedLeftarrow$ Let $B(b,varepsilon)$ be the open ball around $b$. By continuity we get that there is a $delta$ such that $B(a,delta)subseteq e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. Let us choose $n_0$ with $1/n_0<delta$. Then each ball $B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ lies inside $e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. And since the function $e$ is not constant on this ball, we can choose $a_kin B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ such that $e(a_k)ne e(a)$, i.e., $a_kin e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$.






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    By continuity, the pre-image of a neighborhood of $b$ should be a neighborhood of $a$. Now if $a$ is a discrete point in $A$ (i.e. the set $asubset A$ is open), that neighborhood may be trivial such that the pre-image of the punctured neighborhood of $b$ does not contain any other points in the vicinity of $a$. Otherwise you should be able to find such a sequence. Hence that might be the concept you are looking for.






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      This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
      – Rushabh Mehta
      Aug 6 at 19:12










    • An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
      – Rushabh Mehta
      Aug 6 at 19:18











    • @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
      – Stefan Böttner
      Aug 7 at 11:39










    • Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
      – Rushabh Mehta
      Aug 7 at 11:39










    • Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
      – Stefan Böttner
      Aug 7 at 12:01










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    Let us call the property described in question as Property P. Continuing the observations made in Stefan Böttner's answer we get the following.



    Observation. Let $A$ and $B$ be metric spaces and $ecolon Ato B$ be a continuous function. Then $e$ has the Property P if and only if $A$ has no isolated points and $e$ is nowhere constant. (I am not sure to which extent this is a standard therm, but it seems to ba a natural name for this. It also appears in some books.)



    By nowhere constant I mean that there is no non-empty open subset $Usubseteq A$ such that $e|_U$ is constant.



    Proof. $boxedRightarrow$ If $a$ is any point of $A$ then property P implies existence of a sequence converging to $a$, hence $a$ is not isolated.



    Let $Uneemptyset$ and $ain U$. Let $b=e(a)$. Let $varepsilon>0$. The set $e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$ contains sequence $(a_n)$ converging to $a$. Starting with some $n_0$, terms of these sequence belong to $U$ and we also have $e(a_n)ne e(b)$. Therefore $e|_U$



    $boxedLeftarrow$ Let $B(b,varepsilon)$ be the open ball around $b$. By continuity we get that there is a $delta$ such that $B(a,delta)subseteq e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. Let us choose $n_0$ with $1/n_0<delta$. Then each ball $B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ lies inside $e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. And since the function $e$ is not constant on this ball, we can choose $a_kin B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ such that $e(a_k)ne e(a)$, i.e., $a_kin e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$.






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      Let us call the property described in question as Property P. Continuing the observations made in Stefan Böttner's answer we get the following.



      Observation. Let $A$ and $B$ be metric spaces and $ecolon Ato B$ be a continuous function. Then $e$ has the Property P if and only if $A$ has no isolated points and $e$ is nowhere constant. (I am not sure to which extent this is a standard therm, but it seems to ba a natural name for this. It also appears in some books.)



      By nowhere constant I mean that there is no non-empty open subset $Usubseteq A$ such that $e|_U$ is constant.



      Proof. $boxedRightarrow$ If $a$ is any point of $A$ then property P implies existence of a sequence converging to $a$, hence $a$ is not isolated.



      Let $Uneemptyset$ and $ain U$. Let $b=e(a)$. Let $varepsilon>0$. The set $e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$ contains sequence $(a_n)$ converging to $a$. Starting with some $n_0$, terms of these sequence belong to $U$ and we also have $e(a_n)ne e(b)$. Therefore $e|_U$



      $boxedLeftarrow$ Let $B(b,varepsilon)$ be the open ball around $b$. By continuity we get that there is a $delta$ such that $B(a,delta)subseteq e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. Let us choose $n_0$ with $1/n_0<delta$. Then each ball $B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ lies inside $e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. And since the function $e$ is not constant on this ball, we can choose $a_kin B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ such that $e(a_k)ne e(a)$, i.e., $a_kin e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$.






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        Let us call the property described in question as Property P. Continuing the observations made in Stefan Böttner's answer we get the following.



        Observation. Let $A$ and $B$ be metric spaces and $ecolon Ato B$ be a continuous function. Then $e$ has the Property P if and only if $A$ has no isolated points and $e$ is nowhere constant. (I am not sure to which extent this is a standard therm, but it seems to ba a natural name for this. It also appears in some books.)



        By nowhere constant I mean that there is no non-empty open subset $Usubseteq A$ such that $e|_U$ is constant.



        Proof. $boxedRightarrow$ If $a$ is any point of $A$ then property P implies existence of a sequence converging to $a$, hence $a$ is not isolated.



        Let $Uneemptyset$ and $ain U$. Let $b=e(a)$. Let $varepsilon>0$. The set $e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$ contains sequence $(a_n)$ converging to $a$. Starting with some $n_0$, terms of these sequence belong to $U$ and we also have $e(a_n)ne e(b)$. Therefore $e|_U$



        $boxedLeftarrow$ Let $B(b,varepsilon)$ be the open ball around $b$. By continuity we get that there is a $delta$ such that $B(a,delta)subseteq e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. Let us choose $n_0$ with $1/n_0<delta$. Then each ball $B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ lies inside $e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. And since the function $e$ is not constant on this ball, we can choose $a_kin B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ such that $e(a_k)ne e(a)$, i.e., $a_kin e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$.






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        Let us call the property described in question as Property P. Continuing the observations made in Stefan Böttner's answer we get the following.



        Observation. Let $A$ and $B$ be metric spaces and $ecolon Ato B$ be a continuous function. Then $e$ has the Property P if and only if $A$ has no isolated points and $e$ is nowhere constant. (I am not sure to which extent this is a standard therm, but it seems to ba a natural name for this. It also appears in some books.)



        By nowhere constant I mean that there is no non-empty open subset $Usubseteq A$ such that $e|_U$ is constant.



        Proof. $boxedRightarrow$ If $a$ is any point of $A$ then property P implies existence of a sequence converging to $a$, hence $a$ is not isolated.



        Let $Uneemptyset$ and $ain U$. Let $b=e(a)$. Let $varepsilon>0$. The set $e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$ contains sequence $(a_n)$ converging to $a$. Starting with some $n_0$, terms of these sequence belong to $U$ and we also have $e(a_n)ne e(b)$. Therefore $e|_U$



        $boxedLeftarrow$ Let $B(b,varepsilon)$ be the open ball around $b$. By continuity we get that there is a $delta$ such that $B(a,delta)subseteq e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. Let us choose $n_0$ with $1/n_0<delta$. Then each ball $B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ lies inside $e^-1[B(b,varepsilon)]$. And since the function $e$ is not constant on this ball, we can choose $a_kin B(a,frac1n_0+k)$ such that $e(a_k)ne e(a)$, i.e., $a_kin e^-1[P_varepsilon(b)]$.







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            By continuity, the pre-image of a neighborhood of $b$ should be a neighborhood of $a$. Now if $a$ is a discrete point in $A$ (i.e. the set $asubset A$ is open), that neighborhood may be trivial such that the pre-image of the punctured neighborhood of $b$ does not contain any other points in the vicinity of $a$. Otherwise you should be able to find such a sequence. Hence that might be the concept you are looking for.






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              This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:12










            • An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:18











            • @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 12:01














            up vote
            3
            down vote



            +50










            By continuity, the pre-image of a neighborhood of $b$ should be a neighborhood of $a$. Now if $a$ is a discrete point in $A$ (i.e. the set $asubset A$ is open), that neighborhood may be trivial such that the pre-image of the punctured neighborhood of $b$ does not contain any other points in the vicinity of $a$. Otherwise you should be able to find such a sequence. Hence that might be the concept you are looking for.






            share|cite|improve this answer

















            • 1




              This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:12










            • An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:18











            • @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 12:01












            up vote
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            up vote
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            +50




            By continuity, the pre-image of a neighborhood of $b$ should be a neighborhood of $a$. Now if $a$ is a discrete point in $A$ (i.e. the set $asubset A$ is open), that neighborhood may be trivial such that the pre-image of the punctured neighborhood of $b$ does not contain any other points in the vicinity of $a$. Otherwise you should be able to find such a sequence. Hence that might be the concept you are looking for.






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            By continuity, the pre-image of a neighborhood of $b$ should be a neighborhood of $a$. Now if $a$ is a discrete point in $A$ (i.e. the set $asubset A$ is open), that neighborhood may be trivial such that the pre-image of the punctured neighborhood of $b$ does not contain any other points in the vicinity of $a$. Otherwise you should be able to find such a sequence. Hence that might be the concept you are looking for.







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              This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:12










            • An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:18











            • @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 12:01












            • 1




              This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:12










            • An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 6 at 19:18











            • @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
              – Rushabh Mehta
              Aug 7 at 11:39










            • Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
              – Stefan Böttner
              Aug 7 at 12:01







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            This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 6 at 19:12




            This is not exactly what he desires. Note that continuity does not have the aforementioned property for punctured neighborhoods in $B$
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 6 at 19:12












            An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 6 at 19:18





            An example: Suppose $A=mathbbR$ and $$forall c>0inmathbbRquad e(c) = b_0$$$$forall -1leq cleq 0inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_1$$$$forall -c<-1inmathbbRquad e(c)=b_2$$ Note that if $exists P_epsilon(b_0)$ that contains $b_2$ but not $b_1$, OP's property doesn't hold, despite there being no discrete points in $A$.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 6 at 19:18













            @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
            – Stefan Böttner
            Aug 7 at 11:39




            @RushabhMehta Your function $e$ is neither continuous nor surjective (onto).
            – Stefan Böttner
            Aug 7 at 11:39












            Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 7 at 11:39




            Well that's fair, I'll have to think about that
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 7 at 11:39












            Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
            – Stefan Böttner
            Aug 7 at 12:01




            Let $U_b$ be open such that $b in U_b subset B$. Then $U_a=e^-1(U_b)$ is open and $a in U_a subset A$. Unless $a$ was a discrete point, you should be able to find points $a_1,a_2,ldots in U_asetminusa$ such that $a_nrightarrow a$.
            – Stefan Böttner
            Aug 7 at 12:01












             

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