Computing the Poincare Map of a Dynamical System

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Consider the two-dimensional system $dotr = r(1 − r)$ and $dottheta = 1$ Compute the
Poincare map for the local section $S = (r, θ) $.



I'm not really sure how to proceed. I know what a Poincare map is (definitionally), but I'm not sure how to compute it for this particular system.







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      Consider the two-dimensional system $dotr = r(1 − r)$ and $dottheta = 1$ Compute the
      Poincare map for the local section $S = (r, θ) $.



      I'm not really sure how to proceed. I know what a Poincare map is (definitionally), but I'm not sure how to compute it for this particular system.







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      Consider the two-dimensional system $dotr = r(1 − r)$ and $dottheta = 1$ Compute the
      Poincare map for the local section $S = (r, θ) $.



      I'm not really sure how to proceed. I know what a Poincare map is (definitionally), but I'm not sure how to compute it for this particular system.









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          The Poincaré map $f(r_0)$ is the radius of the first intersection with $S$ of the solution starting at $(0,r_0)$ :
          Poincaré map
          Note that this intersection is at $theta=t=2pi$.



          The solution of the initial value problem
          $$
          dot r= r(1-r),quad r(0)=r_0
          $$
          is
          equal to
          $$r(t)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-t ,$$
          thus, the radius of the next intersection is
          $$
          r(2pi)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
          $$
          Finally, the Poincaré map is
          $$
          f(r_0)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
          $$






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            • This is in polar coordinates, because it would not make sense otherwise.

            • The Poincaré map gives the relation between one intersection of $S$ and the next.

            • $dotr=r(1-r)$ can be solved analytically.

            • The two differential equations are uncoupled, thus allowing you to easily determine the time points of intersections.





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              The Poincaré map $f(r_0)$ is the radius of the first intersection with $S$ of the solution starting at $(0,r_0)$ :
              Poincaré map
              Note that this intersection is at $theta=t=2pi$.



              The solution of the initial value problem
              $$
              dot r= r(1-r),quad r(0)=r_0
              $$
              is
              equal to
              $$r(t)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-t ,$$
              thus, the radius of the next intersection is
              $$
              r(2pi)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
              $$
              Finally, the Poincaré map is
              $$
              f(r_0)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
              $$






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                The Poincaré map $f(r_0)$ is the radius of the first intersection with $S$ of the solution starting at $(0,r_0)$ :
                Poincaré map
                Note that this intersection is at $theta=t=2pi$.



                The solution of the initial value problem
                $$
                dot r= r(1-r),quad r(0)=r_0
                $$
                is
                equal to
                $$r(t)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-t ,$$
                thus, the radius of the next intersection is
                $$
                r(2pi)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
                $$
                Finally, the Poincaré map is
                $$
                f(r_0)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
                $$






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                  The Poincaré map $f(r_0)$ is the radius of the first intersection with $S$ of the solution starting at $(0,r_0)$ :
                  Poincaré map
                  Note that this intersection is at $theta=t=2pi$.



                  The solution of the initial value problem
                  $$
                  dot r= r(1-r),quad r(0)=r_0
                  $$
                  is
                  equal to
                  $$r(t)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-t ,$$
                  thus, the radius of the next intersection is
                  $$
                  r(2pi)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
                  $$
                  Finally, the Poincaré map is
                  $$
                  f(r_0)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
                  $$






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                  The Poincaré map $f(r_0)$ is the radius of the first intersection with $S$ of the solution starting at $(0,r_0)$ :
                  Poincaré map
                  Note that this intersection is at $theta=t=2pi$.



                  The solution of the initial value problem
                  $$
                  dot r= r(1-r),quad r(0)=r_0
                  $$
                  is
                  equal to
                  $$r(t)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-t ,$$
                  thus, the radius of the next intersection is
                  $$
                  r(2pi)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
                  $$
                  Finally, the Poincaré map is
                  $$
                  f(r_0)= frac11-fracr_0 - 1r_0 e^-2pi .
                  $$







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                      Hints:



                      • This is in polar coordinates, because it would not make sense otherwise.

                      • The Poincaré map gives the relation between one intersection of $S$ and the next.

                      • $dotr=r(1-r)$ can be solved analytically.

                      • The two differential equations are uncoupled, thus allowing you to easily determine the time points of intersections.





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                        Hints:



                        • This is in polar coordinates, because it would not make sense otherwise.

                        • The Poincaré map gives the relation between one intersection of $S$ and the next.

                        • $dotr=r(1-r)$ can be solved analytically.

                        • The two differential equations are uncoupled, thus allowing you to easily determine the time points of intersections.





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                          • This is in polar coordinates, because it would not make sense otherwise.

                          • The Poincaré map gives the relation between one intersection of $S$ and the next.

                          • $dotr=r(1-r)$ can be solved analytically.

                          • The two differential equations are uncoupled, thus allowing you to easily determine the time points of intersections.





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                          Hints:



                          • This is in polar coordinates, because it would not make sense otherwise.

                          • The Poincaré map gives the relation between one intersection of $S$ and the next.

                          • $dotr=r(1-r)$ can be solved analytically.

                          • The two differential equations are uncoupled, thus allowing you to easily determine the time points of intersections.






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