Find the limit $lim_xto0fractan6x)sin3x$ without using L'hopital

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I'm trying to compute the following limit: $$lim_xto0fractan6xsin3x$$



I really have no idea how to start it. I tried rewriting $tan6x$ in terms of $sin6x$ and $cos6x$ but wasn't able to simplify the expression. How do I go about this?







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    Use $sin 6x=2sin 3xcos 3x$.
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  • In this particular case trigonometric manipulation is fine and maybe the simpler method. For more general cases keep in mind the use of standard limits, as for example $$fractan (pi x)sin (ex)$$ which is not solveble by simply trigonometric manipulations.
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I'm trying to compute the following limit: $$lim_xto0fractan6xsin3x$$



I really have no idea how to start it. I tried rewriting $tan6x$ in terms of $sin6x$ and $cos6x$ but wasn't able to simplify the expression. How do I go about this?







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    Use $sin 6x=2sin 3xcos 3x$.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jul 20 at 6:14










  • In this particular case trigonometric manipulation is fine and maybe the simpler method. For more general cases keep in mind the use of standard limits, as for example $$fractan (pi x)sin (ex)$$ which is not solveble by simply trigonometric manipulations.
    – gimusi
    Jul 20 at 7:25













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I'm trying to compute the following limit: $$lim_xto0fractan6xsin3x$$



I really have no idea how to start it. I tried rewriting $tan6x$ in terms of $sin6x$ and $cos6x$ but wasn't able to simplify the expression. How do I go about this?







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I'm trying to compute the following limit: $$lim_xto0fractan6xsin3x$$



I really have no idea how to start it. I tried rewriting $tan6x$ in terms of $sin6x$ and $cos6x$ but wasn't able to simplify the expression. How do I go about this?









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    Use $sin 6x=2sin 3xcos 3x$.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jul 20 at 6:14










  • In this particular case trigonometric manipulation is fine and maybe the simpler method. For more general cases keep in mind the use of standard limits, as for example $$fractan (pi x)sin (ex)$$ which is not solveble by simply trigonometric manipulations.
    – gimusi
    Jul 20 at 7:25













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    Use $sin 6x=2sin 3xcos 3x$.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jul 20 at 6:14










  • In this particular case trigonometric manipulation is fine and maybe the simpler method. For more general cases keep in mind the use of standard limits, as for example $$fractan (pi x)sin (ex)$$ which is not solveble by simply trigonometric manipulations.
    – gimusi
    Jul 20 at 7:25








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Use $sin 6x=2sin 3xcos 3x$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 20 at 6:14




Use $sin 6x=2sin 3xcos 3x$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 20 at 6:14












In this particular case trigonometric manipulation is fine and maybe the simpler method. For more general cases keep in mind the use of standard limits, as for example $$fractan (pi x)sin (ex)$$ which is not solveble by simply trigonometric manipulations.
– gimusi
Jul 20 at 7:25





In this particular case trigonometric manipulation is fine and maybe the simpler method. For more general cases keep in mind the use of standard limits, as for example $$fractan (pi x)sin (ex)$$ which is not solveble by simply trigonometric manipulations.
– gimusi
Jul 20 at 7:25











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When $sin(3x)ne0$,
$$
beginalign
fractan(6x)sin(3x)
&=fracsin(6x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
&=frac2sin(3x)cos(3x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
&=2fraccos(3x)cos(6x)
endalign
$$






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    By standard limit $fracsin ttto 1$ as $tto 0$, we have



    $$fractan(6x)sin(3x)=fractan(6x)6xfrac3xsin(3x)frac6x3xto 1cdot 1cdot 2=2$$






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      With $tan6x=dfrac2tan3x1-tan^23x=dfrac2sin3xcos3x(1-tan^23x)$ then
      $$lim_xto0dfractan6xsin3x=lim_xto0dfrac2cos3x(1-tan^23x)=2$$






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        For fun:



        Note: $tan 6x = dfrac2tan 3x1-tan^2 3x$.



        $dfrac1cos 3 xdfrac tan 6xtan 3x=$



        $dfrac1 cos 3x dfrac21-tan^2 3x.$



        The limit is?






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        • @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
          – gimusi
          Jul 20 at 7:29







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          @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
          – Jam
          Jul 20 at 8:14










        • Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
          – Peter Szilas
          Jul 20 at 8:19

















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        $$ lim _xto 0 frac tan 6xsin 3x \= lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin 3xcos 6x\=lim _xto 0 frac 1 cos 6x lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin3x\ =lim _xto 0 frac 2sin 3x cos 3xsin3x= lim _xto 0 2 cos 3x =2$$






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        • @gimusi Thanks for the comment. I edited my solution.
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        When $sin(3x)ne0$,
        $$
        beginalign
        fractan(6x)sin(3x)
        &=fracsin(6x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
        &=frac2sin(3x)cos(3x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
        &=2fraccos(3x)cos(6x)
        endalign
        $$






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          When $sin(3x)ne0$,
          $$
          beginalign
          fractan(6x)sin(3x)
          &=fracsin(6x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
          &=frac2sin(3x)cos(3x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
          &=2fraccos(3x)cos(6x)
          endalign
          $$






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            When $sin(3x)ne0$,
            $$
            beginalign
            fractan(6x)sin(3x)
            &=fracsin(6x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
            &=frac2sin(3x)cos(3x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
            &=2fraccos(3x)cos(6x)
            endalign
            $$






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            When $sin(3x)ne0$,
            $$
            beginalign
            fractan(6x)sin(3x)
            &=fracsin(6x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
            &=frac2sin(3x)cos(3x)cos(6x)sin(3x)\
            &=2fraccos(3x)cos(6x)
            endalign
            $$







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                By standard limit $fracsin ttto 1$ as $tto 0$, we have



                $$fractan(6x)sin(3x)=fractan(6x)6xfrac3xsin(3x)frac6x3xto 1cdot 1cdot 2=2$$






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                  By standard limit $fracsin ttto 1$ as $tto 0$, we have



                  $$fractan(6x)sin(3x)=fractan(6x)6xfrac3xsin(3x)frac6x3xto 1cdot 1cdot 2=2$$






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                    By standard limit $fracsin ttto 1$ as $tto 0$, we have



                    $$fractan(6x)sin(3x)=fractan(6x)6xfrac3xsin(3x)frac6x3xto 1cdot 1cdot 2=2$$






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                    By standard limit $fracsin ttto 1$ as $tto 0$, we have



                    $$fractan(6x)sin(3x)=fractan(6x)6xfrac3xsin(3x)frac6x3xto 1cdot 1cdot 2=2$$







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                    answered Jul 20 at 6:12









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                        With $tan6x=dfrac2tan3x1-tan^23x=dfrac2sin3xcos3x(1-tan^23x)$ then
                        $$lim_xto0dfractan6xsin3x=lim_xto0dfrac2cos3x(1-tan^23x)=2$$






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                          With $tan6x=dfrac2tan3x1-tan^23x=dfrac2sin3xcos3x(1-tan^23x)$ then
                          $$lim_xto0dfractan6xsin3x=lim_xto0dfrac2cos3x(1-tan^23x)=2$$






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                            With $tan6x=dfrac2tan3x1-tan^23x=dfrac2sin3xcos3x(1-tan^23x)$ then
                            $$lim_xto0dfractan6xsin3x=lim_xto0dfrac2cos3x(1-tan^23x)=2$$






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                            With $tan6x=dfrac2tan3x1-tan^23x=dfrac2sin3xcos3x(1-tan^23x)$ then
                            $$lim_xto0dfractan6xsin3x=lim_xto0dfrac2cos3x(1-tan^23x)=2$$







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                                For fun:



                                Note: $tan 6x = dfrac2tan 3x1-tan^2 3x$.



                                $dfrac1cos 3 xdfrac tan 6xtan 3x=$



                                $dfrac1 cos 3x dfrac21-tan^2 3x.$



                                The limit is?






                                share|cite|improve this answer





















                                • @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
                                  – gimusi
                                  Jul 20 at 7:29







                                • 2




                                  @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
                                  – Jam
                                  Jul 20 at 8:14










                                • Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
                                  – Peter Szilas
                                  Jul 20 at 8:19














                                up vote
                                2
                                down vote













                                For fun:



                                Note: $tan 6x = dfrac2tan 3x1-tan^2 3x$.



                                $dfrac1cos 3 xdfrac tan 6xtan 3x=$



                                $dfrac1 cos 3x dfrac21-tan^2 3x.$



                                The limit is?






                                share|cite|improve this answer





















                                • @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
                                  – gimusi
                                  Jul 20 at 7:29







                                • 2




                                  @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
                                  – Jam
                                  Jul 20 at 8:14










                                • Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
                                  – Peter Szilas
                                  Jul 20 at 8:19












                                up vote
                                2
                                down vote










                                up vote
                                2
                                down vote









                                For fun:



                                Note: $tan 6x = dfrac2tan 3x1-tan^2 3x$.



                                $dfrac1cos 3 xdfrac tan 6xtan 3x=$



                                $dfrac1 cos 3x dfrac21-tan^2 3x.$



                                The limit is?






                                share|cite|improve this answer













                                For fun:



                                Note: $tan 6x = dfrac2tan 3x1-tan^2 3x$.



                                $dfrac1cos 3 xdfrac tan 6xtan 3x=$



                                $dfrac1 cos 3x dfrac21-tan^2 3x.$



                                The limit is?







                                share|cite|improve this answer













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                                answered Jul 20 at 7:13









                                Peter Szilas

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                                • @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
                                  – gimusi
                                  Jul 20 at 7:29







                                • 2




                                  @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
                                  – Jam
                                  Jul 20 at 8:14










                                • Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
                                  – Peter Szilas
                                  Jul 20 at 8:19
















                                • @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
                                  – gimusi
                                  Jul 20 at 7:29







                                • 2




                                  @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
                                  – Jam
                                  Jul 20 at 8:14










                                • Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
                                  – Peter Szilas
                                  Jul 20 at 8:19















                                @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
                                – gimusi
                                Jul 20 at 7:29





                                @user108128 I know Peter very well, his solution is very similar to your but I don’t think it is intentional. The main idea is the same but the algebraic manipulation is slightly different
                                – gimusi
                                Jul 20 at 7:29





                                2




                                2




                                @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
                                – Jam
                                Jul 20 at 8:14




                                @user108128 I think you misunderstood what Peter meant
                                – Jam
                                Jul 20 at 8:14












                                Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
                                – Peter Szilas
                                Jul 20 at 8:19




                                Gimusi.Thanks for your comment.User 108128's solution is quite similar. Have not looked at the answers thoroughly . Kind words from you:)))Greetings.
                                – Peter Szilas
                                Jul 20 at 8:19










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                                $$ lim _xto 0 frac tan 6xsin 3x \= lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin 3xcos 6x\=lim _xto 0 frac 1 cos 6x lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin3x\ =lim _xto 0 frac 2sin 3x cos 3xsin3x= lim _xto 0 2 cos 3x =2$$






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                                • @gimusi Thanks for the comment. I edited my solution.
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                                $$ lim _xto 0 frac tan 6xsin 3x \= lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin 3xcos 6x\=lim _xto 0 frac 1 cos 6x lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin3x\ =lim _xto 0 frac 2sin 3x cos 3xsin3x= lim _xto 0 2 cos 3x =2$$






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                                $$ lim _xto 0 frac tan 6xsin 3x \= lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin 3xcos 6x\=lim _xto 0 frac 1 cos 6x lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin3x\ =lim _xto 0 frac 2sin 3x cos 3xsin3x= lim _xto 0 2 cos 3x =2$$






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                                $$ lim _xto 0 frac tan 6xsin 3x \= lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin 3xcos 6x\=lim _xto 0 frac 1 cos 6x lim _xto 0 frac sin 6xsin3x\ =lim _xto 0 frac 2sin 3x cos 3xsin3x= lim _xto 0 2 cos 3x =2$$







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                                • @gimusi Thanks for the comment. I edited my solution.
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                                • @gimusi Thanks for the comment. I edited my solution.
                                  – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
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                                @gimusi Thanks for the comment. I edited my solution.
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                                @gimusi Thanks for the comment. I edited my solution.
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