Generalization of Kakeya problem

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Say a needle of unit length is on a flat surface and its head is pointing to the right, we apply a motion to the pen so that it's head ends up pointing to the left. For example : if we rotate the pen around its middle then we swept a surface that is a disk of radius 1/2. And the area is π/4



We can find motions with area smaller than that and the smallest possible area has infimmum equal to 0 thanks to Kakeya.



I would like to hear some ideas for the case when the needle is not a straight line but any curve of length 1, what is the smallest area that we could possibly sweep ?







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  • If the needle with length $1$ is wrapped into a curve with radius $0$ and $infty$ winds from head to tail, the area swept will be $0$. Perhaps somewhere close to this condition?
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Say a needle of unit length is on a flat surface and its head is pointing to the right, we apply a motion to the pen so that it's head ends up pointing to the left. For example : if we rotate the pen around its middle then we swept a surface that is a disk of radius 1/2. And the area is π/4



We can find motions with area smaller than that and the smallest possible area has infimmum equal to 0 thanks to Kakeya.



I would like to hear some ideas for the case when the needle is not a straight line but any curve of length 1, what is the smallest area that we could possibly sweep ?







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  • If the needle with length $1$ is wrapped into a curve with radius $0$ and $infty$ winds from head to tail, the area swept will be $0$. Perhaps somewhere close to this condition?
    – Weather Vane
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Say a needle of unit length is on a flat surface and its head is pointing to the right, we apply a motion to the pen so that it's head ends up pointing to the left. For example : if we rotate the pen around its middle then we swept a surface that is a disk of radius 1/2. And the area is π/4



We can find motions with area smaller than that and the smallest possible area has infimmum equal to 0 thanks to Kakeya.



I would like to hear some ideas for the case when the needle is not a straight line but any curve of length 1, what is the smallest area that we could possibly sweep ?







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Say a needle of unit length is on a flat surface and its head is pointing to the right, we apply a motion to the pen so that it's head ends up pointing to the left. For example : if we rotate the pen around its middle then we swept a surface that is a disk of radius 1/2. And the area is π/4



We can find motions with area smaller than that and the smallest possible area has infimmum equal to 0 thanks to Kakeya.



I would like to hear some ideas for the case when the needle is not a straight line but any curve of length 1, what is the smallest area that we could possibly sweep ?









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  • If the needle with length $1$ is wrapped into a curve with radius $0$ and $infty$ winds from head to tail, the area swept will be $0$. Perhaps somewhere close to this condition?
    – Weather Vane
    Jul 23 at 19:23

















  • If the needle with length $1$ is wrapped into a curve with radius $0$ and $infty$ winds from head to tail, the area swept will be $0$. Perhaps somewhere close to this condition?
    – Weather Vane
    Jul 23 at 19:23
















If the needle with length $1$ is wrapped into a curve with radius $0$ and $infty$ winds from head to tail, the area swept will be $0$. Perhaps somewhere close to this condition?
– Weather Vane
Jul 23 at 19:23





If the needle with length $1$ is wrapped into a curve with radius $0$ and $infty$ winds from head to tail, the area swept will be $0$. Perhaps somewhere close to this condition?
– Weather Vane
Jul 23 at 19:23
















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