If directional derivatives are bounded, then function is continuous

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Suppose we have $f:Sto mathbb R$ where $S$ is the open unit circle:
$S=lbrace (x,y)in mathbb R ^2 mid x^2 +y^2 <1rbrace $, and suppose
$vec v, vec w$ are two independent unit vectors.



Suppose $exists C>0,forall vec zin S,Bigl|frac partial fpartial v(z)Bigr|<C,Bigl|frac partial fpartial w(z)Bigr|<C$.



Show that $f$ is continuous in $S$.




Now, I know that if the partial derivatives exist and bounded, then $f$ is continous, but I'm having trouble expressing the partial derivatives in terms of the given directional derivatives. Of course $e_x=(1,0)$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v,w$, but how can I formally apply it to $fracpartial fpartial x$?







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  • Between every two points in $S$ there is a two segment path that joins them and the segments are parallel to the axes. Use this to estimate the difference in $f$.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 18:32










  • @copper.hat I'm not sure how to construct this two segment path, I could only come up with a one-segment path $phi(t)=tcdot(alpha vec w +beta vec v)+(1-t)cdot (lambda vec w +gamma vec v) $ for $tin [0,1]$, where $z_1 ,z_2 in S$ are represented by these two linear combinations.
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:13










  • Draw a picture. Take two points in the disc. Join them with a Manhattan like path.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 20:15










  • @copper.hat oh okay I think I see what you mean. Then the idea is that each point on this L path can be represented as a linear comb. of $v,w$. So along the path, the directional derivative is of course bounded, depending on the $v$ or $w$ component, but since it applies to any point on a line pararllel to the axes - it applies to the partial derivatives themselves?
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:34















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Suppose we have $f:Sto mathbb R$ where $S$ is the open unit circle:
$S=lbrace (x,y)in mathbb R ^2 mid x^2 +y^2 <1rbrace $, and suppose
$vec v, vec w$ are two independent unit vectors.



Suppose $exists C>0,forall vec zin S,Bigl|frac partial fpartial v(z)Bigr|<C,Bigl|frac partial fpartial w(z)Bigr|<C$.



Show that $f$ is continuous in $S$.




Now, I know that if the partial derivatives exist and bounded, then $f$ is continous, but I'm having trouble expressing the partial derivatives in terms of the given directional derivatives. Of course $e_x=(1,0)$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v,w$, but how can I formally apply it to $fracpartial fpartial x$?







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  • Between every two points in $S$ there is a two segment path that joins them and the segments are parallel to the axes. Use this to estimate the difference in $f$.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 18:32










  • @copper.hat I'm not sure how to construct this two segment path, I could only come up with a one-segment path $phi(t)=tcdot(alpha vec w +beta vec v)+(1-t)cdot (lambda vec w +gamma vec v) $ for $tin [0,1]$, where $z_1 ,z_2 in S$ are represented by these two linear combinations.
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:13










  • Draw a picture. Take two points in the disc. Join them with a Manhattan like path.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 20:15










  • @copper.hat oh okay I think I see what you mean. Then the idea is that each point on this L path can be represented as a linear comb. of $v,w$. So along the path, the directional derivative is of course bounded, depending on the $v$ or $w$ component, but since it applies to any point on a line pararllel to the axes - it applies to the partial derivatives themselves?
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:34













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Suppose we have $f:Sto mathbb R$ where $S$ is the open unit circle:
$S=lbrace (x,y)in mathbb R ^2 mid x^2 +y^2 <1rbrace $, and suppose
$vec v, vec w$ are two independent unit vectors.



Suppose $exists C>0,forall vec zin S,Bigl|frac partial fpartial v(z)Bigr|<C,Bigl|frac partial fpartial w(z)Bigr|<C$.



Show that $f$ is continuous in $S$.




Now, I know that if the partial derivatives exist and bounded, then $f$ is continous, but I'm having trouble expressing the partial derivatives in terms of the given directional derivatives. Of course $e_x=(1,0)$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v,w$, but how can I formally apply it to $fracpartial fpartial x$?







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Suppose we have $f:Sto mathbb R$ where $S$ is the open unit circle:
$S=lbrace (x,y)in mathbb R ^2 mid x^2 +y^2 <1rbrace $, and suppose
$vec v, vec w$ are two independent unit vectors.



Suppose $exists C>0,forall vec zin S,Bigl|frac partial fpartial v(z)Bigr|<C,Bigl|frac partial fpartial w(z)Bigr|<C$.



Show that $f$ is continuous in $S$.




Now, I know that if the partial derivatives exist and bounded, then $f$ is continous, but I'm having trouble expressing the partial derivatives in terms of the given directional derivatives. Of course $e_x=(1,0)$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v,w$, but how can I formally apply it to $fracpartial fpartial x$?









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  • Between every two points in $S$ there is a two segment path that joins them and the segments are parallel to the axes. Use this to estimate the difference in $f$.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 18:32










  • @copper.hat I'm not sure how to construct this two segment path, I could only come up with a one-segment path $phi(t)=tcdot(alpha vec w +beta vec v)+(1-t)cdot (lambda vec w +gamma vec v) $ for $tin [0,1]$, where $z_1 ,z_2 in S$ are represented by these two linear combinations.
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:13










  • Draw a picture. Take two points in the disc. Join them with a Manhattan like path.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 20:15










  • @copper.hat oh okay I think I see what you mean. Then the idea is that each point on this L path can be represented as a linear comb. of $v,w$. So along the path, the directional derivative is of course bounded, depending on the $v$ or $w$ component, but since it applies to any point on a line pararllel to the axes - it applies to the partial derivatives themselves?
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:34

















  • Between every two points in $S$ there is a two segment path that joins them and the segments are parallel to the axes. Use this to estimate the difference in $f$.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 18:32










  • @copper.hat I'm not sure how to construct this two segment path, I could only come up with a one-segment path $phi(t)=tcdot(alpha vec w +beta vec v)+(1-t)cdot (lambda vec w +gamma vec v) $ for $tin [0,1]$, where $z_1 ,z_2 in S$ are represented by these two linear combinations.
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:13










  • Draw a picture. Take two points in the disc. Join them with a Manhattan like path.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 15 at 20:15










  • @copper.hat oh okay I think I see what you mean. Then the idea is that each point on this L path can be represented as a linear comb. of $v,w$. So along the path, the directional derivative is of course bounded, depending on the $v$ or $w$ component, but since it applies to any point on a line pararllel to the axes - it applies to the partial derivatives themselves?
    – gbi1977
    Jul 15 at 20:34
















Between every two points in $S$ there is a two segment path that joins them and the segments are parallel to the axes. Use this to estimate the difference in $f$.
– copper.hat
Jul 15 at 18:32




Between every two points in $S$ there is a two segment path that joins them and the segments are parallel to the axes. Use this to estimate the difference in $f$.
– copper.hat
Jul 15 at 18:32












@copper.hat I'm not sure how to construct this two segment path, I could only come up with a one-segment path $phi(t)=tcdot(alpha vec w +beta vec v)+(1-t)cdot (lambda vec w +gamma vec v) $ for $tin [0,1]$, where $z_1 ,z_2 in S$ are represented by these two linear combinations.
– gbi1977
Jul 15 at 20:13




@copper.hat I'm not sure how to construct this two segment path, I could only come up with a one-segment path $phi(t)=tcdot(alpha vec w +beta vec v)+(1-t)cdot (lambda vec w +gamma vec v) $ for $tin [0,1]$, where $z_1 ,z_2 in S$ are represented by these two linear combinations.
– gbi1977
Jul 15 at 20:13












Draw a picture. Take two points in the disc. Join them with a Manhattan like path.
– copper.hat
Jul 15 at 20:15




Draw a picture. Take two points in the disc. Join them with a Manhattan like path.
– copper.hat
Jul 15 at 20:15












@copper.hat oh okay I think I see what you mean. Then the idea is that each point on this L path can be represented as a linear comb. of $v,w$. So along the path, the directional derivative is of course bounded, depending on the $v$ or $w$ component, but since it applies to any point on a line pararllel to the axes - it applies to the partial derivatives themselves?
– gbi1977
Jul 15 at 20:34





@copper.hat oh okay I think I see what you mean. Then the idea is that each point on this L path can be represented as a linear comb. of $v,w$. So along the path, the directional derivative is of course bounded, depending on the $v$ or $w$ component, but since it applies to any point on a line pararllel to the axes - it applies to the partial derivatives themselves?
– gbi1977
Jul 15 at 20:34











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Here is a more complete proof. However, I think the basic idea gets lost in
the details.



Let $A= beginbmatrixv & w endbmatrix$ and define $phi(z) = f(A z)$ on the open convex set $Sigma=A^-1 S$. Note that
$partial phi(z) over partial z_1 = partial f(Az) over partial u$
and $partial phi(z) over partial z_2 = partial f(Az) over partial w$.



The key element of the proof is that for any $z_1,z_2 in Sigma$, we can choose (because $Sigma$ is open & convex) a path $y_1=z_1 to y_2to cdots to y_n-1 to y_n = z_2$ such that each segment of the path is parallel to either axis and the direction of each segment is the same (with respect to the corresponding axis).



In particular, if $V_j(y) = [y]_j$ we have
$V_j(z_2-z_1) = sum_k V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$, for a given $j$, all of the $V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$ have the same sign and at most one of
$V_1(y_k-y_k-1) $ or $V_2(y_k-y_k-1)$ are
non zero. Hence $|V_j(z_2-z_1)| = sum_k |V_j(y_k-y_k-1)|$.



Note that on each segment, we can apply the mean value theorem to get
$|phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| le C (|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| )$ and
so
begineqnarray
|phi(z_2)-phi(z_1)| &le& sum_k |phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| \
&le & C sum_k(|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| ) \
&=& C(|V_1(z_2-z_1)| + |V_2(z_2-z_1)|) \
&=& C |z_2-z_1|_1
endeqnarray



Finally, we return to '$f$' space:



$|f(z_2)-f(z_1)| = |phi(A^-1 z_2) - phi(A^-1 z_1)| le C |A^-1(z_2-z_1)|_1 le C|A^-1|_1 |z_2-z_1|_1$



Hence $f$ is Lipschitz continuous with rank at most $C|A^-1|_1$.






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    Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 15 at 21:42










  • @SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:06











  • Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 16 at 0:27










  • @SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:50










  • @SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 2:28










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Here is a more complete proof. However, I think the basic idea gets lost in
the details.



Let $A= beginbmatrixv & w endbmatrix$ and define $phi(z) = f(A z)$ on the open convex set $Sigma=A^-1 S$. Note that
$partial phi(z) over partial z_1 = partial f(Az) over partial u$
and $partial phi(z) over partial z_2 = partial f(Az) over partial w$.



The key element of the proof is that for any $z_1,z_2 in Sigma$, we can choose (because $Sigma$ is open & convex) a path $y_1=z_1 to y_2to cdots to y_n-1 to y_n = z_2$ such that each segment of the path is parallel to either axis and the direction of each segment is the same (with respect to the corresponding axis).



In particular, if $V_j(y) = [y]_j$ we have
$V_j(z_2-z_1) = sum_k V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$, for a given $j$, all of the $V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$ have the same sign and at most one of
$V_1(y_k-y_k-1) $ or $V_2(y_k-y_k-1)$ are
non zero. Hence $|V_j(z_2-z_1)| = sum_k |V_j(y_k-y_k-1)|$.



Note that on each segment, we can apply the mean value theorem to get
$|phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| le C (|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| )$ and
so
begineqnarray
|phi(z_2)-phi(z_1)| &le& sum_k |phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| \
&le & C sum_k(|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| ) \
&=& C(|V_1(z_2-z_1)| + |V_2(z_2-z_1)|) \
&=& C |z_2-z_1|_1
endeqnarray



Finally, we return to '$f$' space:



$|f(z_2)-f(z_1)| = |phi(A^-1 z_2) - phi(A^-1 z_1)| le C |A^-1(z_2-z_1)|_1 le C|A^-1|_1 |z_2-z_1|_1$



Hence $f$ is Lipschitz continuous with rank at most $C|A^-1|_1$.






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    Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 15 at 21:42










  • @SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:06











  • Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 16 at 0:27










  • @SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:50










  • @SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 2:28














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1
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Here is a more complete proof. However, I think the basic idea gets lost in
the details.



Let $A= beginbmatrixv & w endbmatrix$ and define $phi(z) = f(A z)$ on the open convex set $Sigma=A^-1 S$. Note that
$partial phi(z) over partial z_1 = partial f(Az) over partial u$
and $partial phi(z) over partial z_2 = partial f(Az) over partial w$.



The key element of the proof is that for any $z_1,z_2 in Sigma$, we can choose (because $Sigma$ is open & convex) a path $y_1=z_1 to y_2to cdots to y_n-1 to y_n = z_2$ such that each segment of the path is parallel to either axis and the direction of each segment is the same (with respect to the corresponding axis).



In particular, if $V_j(y) = [y]_j$ we have
$V_j(z_2-z_1) = sum_k V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$, for a given $j$, all of the $V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$ have the same sign and at most one of
$V_1(y_k-y_k-1) $ or $V_2(y_k-y_k-1)$ are
non zero. Hence $|V_j(z_2-z_1)| = sum_k |V_j(y_k-y_k-1)|$.



Note that on each segment, we can apply the mean value theorem to get
$|phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| le C (|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| )$ and
so
begineqnarray
|phi(z_2)-phi(z_1)| &le& sum_k |phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| \
&le & C sum_k(|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| ) \
&=& C(|V_1(z_2-z_1)| + |V_2(z_2-z_1)|) \
&=& C |z_2-z_1|_1
endeqnarray



Finally, we return to '$f$' space:



$|f(z_2)-f(z_1)| = |phi(A^-1 z_2) - phi(A^-1 z_1)| le C |A^-1(z_2-z_1)|_1 le C|A^-1|_1 |z_2-z_1|_1$



Hence $f$ is Lipschitz continuous with rank at most $C|A^-1|_1$.






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  • 1




    Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 15 at 21:42










  • @SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:06











  • Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 16 at 0:27










  • @SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:50










  • @SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 2:28












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up vote
1
down vote









Here is a more complete proof. However, I think the basic idea gets lost in
the details.



Let $A= beginbmatrixv & w endbmatrix$ and define $phi(z) = f(A z)$ on the open convex set $Sigma=A^-1 S$. Note that
$partial phi(z) over partial z_1 = partial f(Az) over partial u$
and $partial phi(z) over partial z_2 = partial f(Az) over partial w$.



The key element of the proof is that for any $z_1,z_2 in Sigma$, we can choose (because $Sigma$ is open & convex) a path $y_1=z_1 to y_2to cdots to y_n-1 to y_n = z_2$ such that each segment of the path is parallel to either axis and the direction of each segment is the same (with respect to the corresponding axis).



In particular, if $V_j(y) = [y]_j$ we have
$V_j(z_2-z_1) = sum_k V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$, for a given $j$, all of the $V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$ have the same sign and at most one of
$V_1(y_k-y_k-1) $ or $V_2(y_k-y_k-1)$ are
non zero. Hence $|V_j(z_2-z_1)| = sum_k |V_j(y_k-y_k-1)|$.



Note that on each segment, we can apply the mean value theorem to get
$|phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| le C (|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| )$ and
so
begineqnarray
|phi(z_2)-phi(z_1)| &le& sum_k |phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| \
&le & C sum_k(|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| ) \
&=& C(|V_1(z_2-z_1)| + |V_2(z_2-z_1)|) \
&=& C |z_2-z_1|_1
endeqnarray



Finally, we return to '$f$' space:



$|f(z_2)-f(z_1)| = |phi(A^-1 z_2) - phi(A^-1 z_1)| le C |A^-1(z_2-z_1)|_1 le C|A^-1|_1 |z_2-z_1|_1$



Hence $f$ is Lipschitz continuous with rank at most $C|A^-1|_1$.






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Here is a more complete proof. However, I think the basic idea gets lost in
the details.



Let $A= beginbmatrixv & w endbmatrix$ and define $phi(z) = f(A z)$ on the open convex set $Sigma=A^-1 S$. Note that
$partial phi(z) over partial z_1 = partial f(Az) over partial u$
and $partial phi(z) over partial z_2 = partial f(Az) over partial w$.



The key element of the proof is that for any $z_1,z_2 in Sigma$, we can choose (because $Sigma$ is open & convex) a path $y_1=z_1 to y_2to cdots to y_n-1 to y_n = z_2$ such that each segment of the path is parallel to either axis and the direction of each segment is the same (with respect to the corresponding axis).



In particular, if $V_j(y) = [y]_j$ we have
$V_j(z_2-z_1) = sum_k V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$, for a given $j$, all of the $V_j(y_k-y_k-1)$ have the same sign and at most one of
$V_1(y_k-y_k-1) $ or $V_2(y_k-y_k-1)$ are
non zero. Hence $|V_j(z_2-z_1)| = sum_k |V_j(y_k-y_k-1)|$.



Note that on each segment, we can apply the mean value theorem to get
$|phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| le C (|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| )$ and
so
begineqnarray
|phi(z_2)-phi(z_1)| &le& sum_k |phi(y_k)-phi(y_k-1)| \
&le & C sum_k(|V_1(y_k-y_k-1) | + |V_2(y_k-y_k-1)| ) \
&=& C(|V_1(z_2-z_1)| + |V_2(z_2-z_1)|) \
&=& C |z_2-z_1|_1
endeqnarray



Finally, we return to '$f$' space:



$|f(z_2)-f(z_1)| = |phi(A^-1 z_2) - phi(A^-1 z_1)| le C |A^-1(z_2-z_1)|_1 le C|A^-1|_1 |z_2-z_1|_1$



Hence $f$ is Lipschitz continuous with rank at most $C|A^-1|_1$.







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  • 1




    Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 15 at 21:42










  • @SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:06











  • Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 16 at 0:27










  • @SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:50










  • @SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 2:28












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    Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 15 at 21:42










  • @SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:06











  • Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
    – Steve Kass
    Jul 16 at 0:27










  • @SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 0:50










  • @SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
    – copper.hat
    Jul 16 at 2:28







1




1




Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
– Steve Kass
Jul 15 at 21:42




Doesn’t this argument assume that $vec v=langle1,0rangle$ and $vec w=langle0,1rangle$ (or vice versa)?
– Steve Kass
Jul 15 at 21:42












@SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
– copper.hat
Jul 16 at 0:06





@SteveKass: It does, but exactly the same approach works except for the $sqrt 2$ part and the $C need to be adjusted.
– copper.hat
Jul 16 at 0:06













Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
– Steve Kass
Jul 16 at 0:27




Yes, it just seemed to me that the details of how to make that approach work were at the heart of the OP’s question. (Or a little more bluntly, if I’d assigned this as a class exercise, I would expect those details to be worked out in a submitted answer.)
– Steve Kass
Jul 16 at 0:27












@SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
– copper.hat
Jul 16 at 0:50




@SteveKass: I guess my take was that the OP just needed to see the idea and could take it from there. I will sketch out the details.
– copper.hat
Jul 16 at 0:50












@SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
– copper.hat
Jul 16 at 2:28




@SteveKass: I elaborated the detail, but I think it has become a technical mess.
– copper.hat
Jul 16 at 2:28












 

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