Integration over ellipsoid using the divergence theorem
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I have troubles with the following question:
Given is the following vector field :
$$f(x,y,z)= beginpmatrixx+sin(y)cos(z)\y+e^x^2+y^2\-z + log(1+x^2+y^2)endpmatrix$$
and the set $M$ is defined by
$$M:=(x,y,z)mid x^2+fracy^24+fracz^29=1$$
Calculate the following integral :
$$int_Mlangle f, v rangle, dS$$
where $v$ is the unit normal field (german : Einheitsnormalenfeld) toward the exterior.
So I thought about using the divergence theorem as usual given that $M$ is just the border of an ellipsoid. I get the triple integral over $1+2ye^x^2+y^2$ . The 3 integrals over 1 give us the volume of a normal ellipsoid, in this case $8pi$, but how do I integrate $iiint_textEllipsoid 2ye^x^2+y^2 dx,dy,dz$ ?
Thanks for your help.
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I have troubles with the following question:
Given is the following vector field :
$$f(x,y,z)= beginpmatrixx+sin(y)cos(z)\y+e^x^2+y^2\-z + log(1+x^2+y^2)endpmatrix$$
and the set $M$ is defined by
$$M:=(x,y,z)mid x^2+fracy^24+fracz^29=1$$
Calculate the following integral :
$$int_Mlangle f, v rangle, dS$$
where $v$ is the unit normal field (german : Einheitsnormalenfeld) toward the exterior.
So I thought about using the divergence theorem as usual given that $M$ is just the border of an ellipsoid. I get the triple integral over $1+2ye^x^2+y^2$ . The 3 integrals over 1 give us the volume of a normal ellipsoid, in this case $8pi$, but how do I integrate $iiint_textEllipsoid 2ye^x^2+y^2 dx,dy,dz$ ?
Thanks for your help.
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I have troubles with the following question:
Given is the following vector field :
$$f(x,y,z)= beginpmatrixx+sin(y)cos(z)\y+e^x^2+y^2\-z + log(1+x^2+y^2)endpmatrix$$
and the set $M$ is defined by
$$M:=(x,y,z)mid x^2+fracy^24+fracz^29=1$$
Calculate the following integral :
$$int_Mlangle f, v rangle, dS$$
where $v$ is the unit normal field (german : Einheitsnormalenfeld) toward the exterior.
So I thought about using the divergence theorem as usual given that $M$ is just the border of an ellipsoid. I get the triple integral over $1+2ye^x^2+y^2$ . The 3 integrals over 1 give us the volume of a normal ellipsoid, in this case $8pi$, but how do I integrate $iiint_textEllipsoid 2ye^x^2+y^2 dx,dy,dz$ ?
Thanks for your help.
real-analysis integration
I have troubles with the following question:
Given is the following vector field :
$$f(x,y,z)= beginpmatrixx+sin(y)cos(z)\y+e^x^2+y^2\-z + log(1+x^2+y^2)endpmatrix$$
and the set $M$ is defined by
$$M:=(x,y,z)mid x^2+fracy^24+fracz^29=1$$
Calculate the following integral :
$$int_Mlangle f, v rangle, dS$$
where $v$ is the unit normal field (german : Einheitsnormalenfeld) toward the exterior.
So I thought about using the divergence theorem as usual given that $M$ is just the border of an ellipsoid. I get the triple integral over $1+2ye^x^2+y^2$ . The 3 integrals over 1 give us the volume of a normal ellipsoid, in this case $8pi$, but how do I integrate $iiint_textEllipsoid 2ye^x^2+y^2 dx,dy,dz$ ?
Thanks for your help.
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So you are asking how to set up a triple integral?
The ellipsoid $x^2+ fracy^24+ fracz^29= 1$ can be covered by taking $x$ from $-1$ to $1$; $y$, for each $x$, from $-2sqrt1-x^2$ to $2sqrt1-x^2$; and $z$, for each $x$ and $y$, from $-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$ to $3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$.
So the integral will be $$int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2int_z=-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24^3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dz,dy,dx$$
Since the integrand is independent of $z$, the first integration gives
$$-6int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2sqrt1- x^2left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dy,dx$$
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Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
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Jul 18 at 19:42
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
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So you are asking how to set up a triple integral?
The ellipsoid $x^2+ fracy^24+ fracz^29= 1$ can be covered by taking $x$ from $-1$ to $1$; $y$, for each $x$, from $-2sqrt1-x^2$ to $2sqrt1-x^2$; and $z$, for each $x$ and $y$, from $-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$ to $3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$.
So the integral will be $$int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2int_z=-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24^3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dz,dy,dx$$
Since the integrand is independent of $z$, the first integration gives
$$-6int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2sqrt1- x^2left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dy,dx$$
1
Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
– Poujh
Jul 18 at 19:42
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
– zokomoko
Jul 18 at 20:07
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So you are asking how to set up a triple integral?
The ellipsoid $x^2+ fracy^24+ fracz^29= 1$ can be covered by taking $x$ from $-1$ to $1$; $y$, for each $x$, from $-2sqrt1-x^2$ to $2sqrt1-x^2$; and $z$, for each $x$ and $y$, from $-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$ to $3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$.
So the integral will be $$int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2int_z=-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24^3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dz,dy,dx$$
Since the integrand is independent of $z$, the first integration gives
$$-6int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2sqrt1- x^2left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dy,dx$$
1
Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
– Poujh
Jul 18 at 19:42
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
– zokomoko
Jul 18 at 20:07
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So you are asking how to set up a triple integral?
The ellipsoid $x^2+ fracy^24+ fracz^29= 1$ can be covered by taking $x$ from $-1$ to $1$; $y$, for each $x$, from $-2sqrt1-x^2$ to $2sqrt1-x^2$; and $z$, for each $x$ and $y$, from $-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$ to $3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$.
So the integral will be $$int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2int_z=-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24^3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dz,dy,dx$$
Since the integrand is independent of $z$, the first integration gives
$$-6int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2sqrt1- x^2left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dy,dx$$
So you are asking how to set up a triple integral?
The ellipsoid $x^2+ fracy^24+ fracz^29= 1$ can be covered by taking $x$ from $-1$ to $1$; $y$, for each $x$, from $-2sqrt1-x^2$ to $2sqrt1-x^2$; and $z$, for each $x$ and $y$, from $-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$ to $3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24$.
So the integral will be $$int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2int_z=-3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24^3sqrt1-x^2-fracy^24left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dz,dy,dx$$
Since the integrand is independent of $z$, the first integration gives
$$-6int_x=-1^1int_y=-2sqrt1- x^2^2sqrt1- x^2sqrt1- x^2left(1+ 2ye^x^2+y^2right)dy,dx$$
edited Jul 18 at 20:02


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Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
– Poujh
Jul 18 at 19:42
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
– zokomoko
Jul 18 at 20:07
add a comment |Â
1
Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
– Poujh
Jul 18 at 19:42
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
– zokomoko
Jul 18 at 20:07
1
1
Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
– Poujh
Jul 18 at 19:42
Thanks for your help, but isn't that really "complicated" ? I mean, the integral over 1 is easy, and the divergence of the vector field is also a lot easier than in "first" appearence, so do we really need to integrate $2ye^x^2+y^2$ in that way ? Isn't there a trick, or couldn't we for example use cylindrical/ spherical coordinates to make things easier ? I found this question in an old exam, and given that time in exam is often limited, the questions are generally not "that" hard, so I'm just a bit surprised.
– Poujh
Jul 18 at 19:42
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
– zokomoko
Jul 18 at 20:07
The first integral is an integral of an odd function over a symmetric interval, thus the entire calculation yields zero.
– zokomoko
Jul 18 at 20:07
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