Is it true that for any $g$ in $L^2$, $lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1 g(x) dx=0$?
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Is it true that $$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1 g(x) dx=0,$$ for any $g$ in $L^2$? If true, how can I prove it? If not, what is the counterexample?
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Is it true that $$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1 g(x) dx=0,$$ for any $g$ in $L^2$? If true, how can I prove it? If not, what is the counterexample?
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@DonAntonio He means $L^2(mathbb R)$. Constant functions aren't in there.
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@amsmath Ah, great clearing out! Didn't realize he meant that space. Thanx.
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Is it true that $$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1 g(x) dx=0,$$ for any $g$ in $L^2$? If true, how can I prove it? If not, what is the counterexample?
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Is it true that $$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1 g(x) dx=0,$$ for any $g$ in $L^2$? If true, how can I prove it? If not, what is the counterexample?
calculus real-analysis analysis
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@DonAntonio He means $L^2(mathbb R)$. Constant functions aren't in there.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:38
@amsmath Ah, great clearing out! Didn't realize he meant that space. Thanx.
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@DonAntonio He means $L^2(mathbb R)$. Constant functions aren't in there.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:38
@amsmath Ah, great clearing out! Didn't realize he meant that space. Thanx.
– DonAntonio
Jul 18 at 17:42
@DonAntonio He means $L^2(mathbb R)$. Constant functions aren't in there.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:38
@DonAntonio He means $L^2(mathbb R)$. Constant functions aren't in there.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:38
@amsmath Ah, great clearing out! Didn't realize he meant that space. Thanx.
– DonAntonio
Jul 18 at 17:42
@amsmath Ah, great clearing out! Didn't realize he meant that space. Thanx.
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You have
$$
int_0^infty|g(x)|^2,dx = sum_n=0^inftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx,
$$
so $int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxto 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Hence, by Cauchy-Schwarz,
$$
int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx,le,left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2,to,0
$$
as $ntoinfty$.
I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
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Jul 18 at 18:02
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Use
$$left|int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxright|^2leint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx$$
and
$$sum_nint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx<infty.$$
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By Holder's inequality :
$$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxle((n+1-n)int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2$$
$$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxlelim_ntoinfty(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2=0$$
First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
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You have
$$
int_0^infty|g(x)|^2,dx = sum_n=0^inftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx,
$$
so $int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxto 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Hence, by Cauchy-Schwarz,
$$
int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx,le,left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2,to,0
$$
as $ntoinfty$.
I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 18:02
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You have
$$
int_0^infty|g(x)|^2,dx = sum_n=0^inftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx,
$$
so $int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxto 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Hence, by Cauchy-Schwarz,
$$
int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx,le,left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2,to,0
$$
as $ntoinfty$.
I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 18:02
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You have
$$
int_0^infty|g(x)|^2,dx = sum_n=0^inftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx,
$$
so $int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxto 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Hence, by Cauchy-Schwarz,
$$
int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx,le,left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2,to,0
$$
as $ntoinfty$.
You have
$$
int_0^infty|g(x)|^2,dx = sum_n=0^inftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx,
$$
so $int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxto 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Hence, by Cauchy-Schwarz,
$$
int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx,le,left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2,to,0
$$
as $ntoinfty$.
answered Jul 18 at 17:35
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I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 18:02
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I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 18:02
I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
I am not sure why the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality holds in the case. Is it reasonable to restrict the integration over [n,n+1] and let n go to infinity?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:40
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
Of course you can use Cauchy-Schwarz. You have $1,|g|in L^2(n,n+1)$. So, $$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dx = langle |g|,1rangle le |g|_L^2(n,n+1)|1|_L^2(n,n+1) = left(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dxright)^1/2.$$
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:44
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
When I take the limit, n will go to infinity. Doesn't that give rise to a problem in $L^2(n,n+1) $?
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 17:47
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
@StevenChen I don't understand your question. There is no problem!
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:51
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 18:02
I got it. Thank you for the advice. I first misled $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$ for n goes to infinity and thought Cauchy-Schwarz is not permitted to use here. But I found I shouldn't treat $L^2(n,n+1)$ as $L^2(infty,infty+1)$, which makes no sense to me.
– Steven Chen
Jul 18 at 18:02
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Use
$$left|int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxright|^2leint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx$$
and
$$sum_nint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx<infty.$$
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up vote
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Use
$$left|int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxright|^2leint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx$$
and
$$sum_nint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx<infty.$$
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Use
$$left|int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxright|^2leint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx$$
and
$$sum_nint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx<infty.$$
Use
$$left|int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxright|^2leint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx$$
and
$$sum_nint_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx<infty.$$
answered Jul 18 at 17:36
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By Holder's inequality :
$$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxle((n+1-n)int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2$$
$$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxlelim_ntoinfty(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2=0$$
First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:53
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Too much of true
By Holder's inequality :
$$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxle((n+1-n)int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2$$
$$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxlelim_ntoinfty(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2=0$$
First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:53
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Too much of true
By Holder's inequality :
$$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxle((n+1-n)int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2$$
$$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxlelim_ntoinfty(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2=0$$
Too much of true
By Holder's inequality :
$$int_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxle((n+1-n)int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2$$
$$lim_ntoinftyint_n^n+1|g(x)|,dxlelim_ntoinfty(int_n^n+1|g(x)|^2,dx)^1/2=0$$
edited Jul 18 at 18:22
answered Jul 18 at 17:48
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First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:53
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First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:53
First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:53
First, what you write is wrong. Using Hölder (which is Cauchy-Schwarz here), you have to use the square root on the RHS. Also, what's the reason for taking $|n+1-n|$? Finally, the way you're suggesting was already suggested in answers that were written 13 minutes before yours.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:53
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@DonAntonio He means $L^2(mathbb R)$. Constant functions aren't in there.
– amsmath
Jul 18 at 17:38
@amsmath Ah, great clearing out! Didn't realize he meant that space. Thanx.
– DonAntonio
Jul 18 at 17:42